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QuoteMany people are ignorant or lying. The court didn't say it and the facts don't support it.
Read lawrocket's post above for a concise summary. The court did, unequivocally, say that there were systematic civil right violations.
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you wrote alot and i wont argue against any of it. alot of it i dont fully understand to be honest. i a man enough to admit i am not a legal expert.
i dont believe you disproved my theory that there was more to this case than just what part of town you lived it. as claimed by others here.
i dont believe you disproved my theory that there was more to this case than just what part of town you lived it. as claimed by others here.
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weekenderyou wrote alot and i wont argue against any of it. alot of it i dont fully understand to be honest. i a man enough to admit i am not a legal expert.
i dont believe you disproved my theory that there was more to this case than just what part of town you lived it. as claimed by others here.
While I can see how what I wrote was poorly stated and could easily be read that way, my actual beef is with the concept of detaining and searching without warrant or probable cause in violation of the 4th amendment. Lawrocket's quote of the judge's ruling states this was the case in 14 of the 19 cases before her.
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DanGQuoteMany people are ignorant or lying. The court didn't say it and the facts don't support it.
Read lawrocket's post above for a concise summary. The court did, unequivocally, say that there were systematic civil right violations.
You can lead a horse to knowledge, but you can't make him think.
[Reply]i dont believe you disproved my theory that there was more to this case than just what part of town you lived it.
There was a lot more to it. Namely, stopping and frisking everybody without reasonable articulable suspicion. Of guidance from superiors to stop everyone and come up with reasons later.
Fundamentally, the NYPD has for most of the last decade engaged in a show-of-force policy of arbitrary and capricious harassment. Better not fumble with keys - that's a stop and frisk. If you are on a sidewalk and look at a cop, that's suspicious and you'll be stopped. Just like if you avoid eye contact with a cop. If you are black or hispanic, that's reasonable suspicion right there.
It's a shame that race is being discussed at all. But it is.
Dave's point wasa about flagrant violation of the 4th Amendment. And the zealous advocacy of continuing to do it in the name of "safety." The Constitution was designed to PREVENT this. You don't stop or search a person unless you have a damned good reason.
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