Gravitymaster 0 #51 January 12, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHe said that fundamentally anywhere south of the Trento Valley in Northern Italy / Southern Austria is corrupt. Also paying income tax south of here is a " Lifestyle " choice. pay if you want to, don't if you don't ! . Hmmm, sounds like the GOP's "Buffett Plan" for voluntary taxation here. I guess the GOP want the USA to go the way of Greece. As opposed to the *ACTUAL* "I won't pay more unless gov't forces me to" Buffett rule? UPDATE: Warren Buffett has pledged to match 1 for 1 all such voluntary contributions made by Republican members of Congress. “And I’ll even go 3 for 1 for McConnell,” he says. That could be quite a bill if McConnell takes the challenge; after all, the Senator is worth at least $10 million. As Buffett put it to me, “I’m not worried.” Read more: swampland.time.com/2012/01/11/warren-buffett-to-mitch-mcconnell-put-up-or-shut-up/#ixzz1jD7M9K18 It isn'y Republicans screaming they don't pay enough in taxes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,635 #52 January 12, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHe said that fundamentally anywhere south of the Trento Valley in Northern Italy / Southern Austria is corrupt. Also paying income tax south of here is a " Lifestyle " choice. pay if you want to, don't if you don't ! . Hmmm, sounds like the GOP's "Buffett Plan" for voluntary taxation here. I guess the GOP want the USA to go the way of Greece. As opposed to the *ACTUAL* "I won't pay more unless gov't forces me to" Buffett rule? UPDATE: Warren Buffett has pledged to match 1 for 1 all such voluntary contributions made by Republican members of Congress. “And I’ll even go 3 for 1 for McConnell,” he says. That could be quite a bill if McConnell takes the challenge; after all, the Senator is worth at least $10 million. As Buffett put it to me, “I’m not worried.” Read more: swampland.time.com/2012/01/11/warren-buffett-to-mitch-mcconnell-put-up-or-shut-up/#ixzz1jD7M9K18 It isn'y Republicans screaming they don't pay enough in taxes. They scream enough about the deficit, but apparently won't do anything about it even when a match is on offer.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #53 January 12, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHe said that fundamentally anywhere south of the Trento Valley in Northern Italy / Southern Austria is corrupt. Also paying income tax south of here is a " Lifestyle " choice. pay if you want to, don't if you don't ! . Hmmm, sounds like the GOP's "Buffett Plan" for voluntary taxation here. I guess the GOP want the USA to go the way of Greece. As opposed to the *ACTUAL* "I won't pay more unless gov't forces me to" Buffett rule? UPDATE: Warren Buffett has pledged to match 1 for 1 all such voluntary contributions made by Republican members of Congress. “And I’ll even go 3 for 1 for McConnell,” he says. That could be quite a bill if McConnell takes the challenge; after all, the Senator is worth at least $10 million. As Buffett put it to me, “I’m not worried.” Read more: swampland.time.com/2012/01/11/warren-buffett-to-mitch-mcconnell-put-up-or-shut-up/#ixzz1jD7M9K18 It isn'y Republicans screaming they don't pay enough in taxes. They scream enough about the deficit, but apparently won't do anything about it even when a match is on offer. If I were them, I'd counter with an offer to contribute based on a ratio of spending cuts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #54 January 12, 2012 Quote Quote Except the Germans are generally hated in Greece due to mass executions during WWII and the fact that Germany waltzed off with all the Greek gold during the war. I know, my cunning plan needs some work... Quote As for your comments on Germany, just come out and say it... "Give me back my grandfathers bicycle!" Actually it's usually: Halt die Klappe und gib mich meinem Fahrrad zurück (spelling/grammatics?) or in Dutch: Hou je bek en geef me mijn fiets terug (Shut your mouth, and give me my bicycle back) Granddad is optional But how the hell, did you know that one? that's indeed a rather classic statement but not widely known outside of NL, (me thinks). Or it was, anti-German sentiment has subsided for the most part, I think, but then again I'm living close to the German border so that could make a difference. Let me help you out, Kaaskopp: "Halt die Klappe und gib mir mein Fahrrad zurück!" Just admit that you love us. Like most of you flatlanders on bromfiets do ...... dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #55 January 12, 2012 Quote Just admit that you love us. Like most of you flatlanders on bromfiets do ...... Let's see The second line of the Dutch (that looks similar to, I don't know, the word Deutsch, isn't it?) national anthem: Ben ik van Duitsen bloed literally : I'm of German blood. Furthermore we imported much of our Royal Family from Germany, including the Founding Father of the Netherlands. It's not that love you, it's more that we're like creepy stalkers that pretend to be you. Oh and my first moped, was of course a Puch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #56 January 12, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHe said that fundamentally anywhere south of the Trento Valley in Northern Italy / Southern Austria is corrupt. Also paying income tax south of here is a " Lifestyle " choice. pay if you want to, don't if you don't ! . Hmmm, sounds like the GOP's "Buffett Plan" for voluntary taxation here. I guess the GOP want the USA to go the way of Greece. As opposed to the *ACTUAL* "I won't pay more unless gov't forces me to" Buffett rule? UPDATE: Warren Buffett has pledged to match 1 for 1 all such voluntary contributions made by Republican members of Congress. “And I’ll even go 3 for 1 for McConnell,” he says. That could be quite a bill if McConnell takes the challenge; after all, the Senator is worth at least $10 million. As Buffett put it to me, “I’m not worried.” Read more: swampland.time.com/2012/01/11/warren-buffett-to-mitch-mcconnell-put-up-or-shut-up/#ixzz1jD7M9K18 It isn'y Republicans screaming they don't pay enough in taxes. They scream enough about the deficit, but apparently won't do anything about it even when a match is on offer. http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-congress/2012/01/rand-paul-returns-k-in-office-budget-to-treasury-110637.html . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoogeyMan 0 #57 January 12, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Except the Germans are generally hated in Greece due to mass executions during WWII and the fact that Germany waltzed off with all the Greek gold during the war. I know, my cunning plan needs some work... Quote As for your comments on Germany, just come out and say it... "Give me back my grandfathers bicycle!" Actually it's usually: Halt die Klappe und gib mich meinem Fahrrad zurück (spelling/grammatics?) or in Dutch: Hou je bek en geef me mijn fiets terug (Shut your mouth, and give me my bicycle back) Granddad is optional But how the hell, did you know that one? that's indeed a rather classic statement but not widely known outside of NL, (me thinks). Or it was, anti-German sentiment has subsided for the most part, I think, but then again I'm living close to the German border so that could make a difference. Let me help you out, Kaaskopp: "Halt die Klappe und gib mir mein Fahrrad zurück!" Just admit that you love us. Like most of you flatlanders on bromfiets do ...... This is interesting.... I made mention of a dutch town. Marinus went off as about how "old" that was. Yet here we are with both Marinus and Christelsabine practically rehashing WW2, going off about stolen bikes with wooden wheels, Greek gold, mass executions, how the old folks are "butt hurt", and everyone hates Germans, about the war and so forth. If either of you have a point to debate at the very least be honest. Trying to ambush has failed for both of you. You both are clearly out of your league. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoogeyMan 0 #58 January 12, 2012 Quote Quote Just admit that you love us. Like most of you flatlanders on bromfiets do ...... Let's see The second line of the Dutch (that looks similar to, I don't know, the word Deutsch, isn't it?) national anthem: Ben ik van Duitsen bloed literally : I'm of German blood. Furthermore we imported much of our Royal Family from Germany, including the Founding Father of the Netherlands. It's not that love you, it's more that we're like creepy stalkers that pretend to be you. Oh and my first moped, was of course a Puch. This is interesting.... I made mention of a dutch town. Marinus went off as about how "old" that was. Yet here we are with both Marinus and Christelsabine practically rehashing WW2, going off about stolen bikes with wooden wheels, Greek gold, mass executions, how the old folks are "butt hurt", and everyone hates Germans, about the war and so forth. If either of you have a point to debate at the very least be honest. Trying to ambush has failed for both of you. You both are clearly out of your league. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #59 January 13, 2012 Uhm, maybe you shouldn't read too much in it? ChristelSabine and I are on good terms AFAIK. It's not completely unusual for people to joke about stuff that went down 70 years ago or so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoogeyMan 0 #60 January 13, 2012 Quote I figured as much......gotcha......! Read your own post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #61 January 13, 2012 I'm not sure what you're getting at.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #62 January 13, 2012 Quote I'm not sure what you're getting at.... He surely doesn't know either - he just sounds like a jealous kid on the playground. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #63 January 13, 2012 Yeah, but he's special and stuff.... , and we love him etc. Apparently he thinks we're after him to cause his ultimate downfall or something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,129 #64 January 13, 2012 QuoteBen ik van Duitsen bloed literally : I'm of German blood. Time to go back to school. That is not what it means. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #65 January 13, 2012 QuoteQuoteBen ik van Duitsen bloed literally : I'm of German blood. Time to go back to school. That is not what it means. Babelfish agrees with his translation...and I would think that someone from the Netherlands would have a pretty good grasp of the Dutch language.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #66 January 13, 2012 Quote Quote Ben ik van Duitsen bloed literally : I'm of German blood. Time to go back to school. That is not what it means. Go back to Google translator. You're wrong. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,129 #67 January 13, 2012 QuoteBabelfish agrees with his translation...and I would think that someone from the Netherlands would have a pretty good grasp of the Dutch language. Babelfish is nou niet echt de beste manier om een juiste vertaling the krijgen. Put that in Babelfish. Then, maybe start wondering why the language spoken in Holland is called Dutch. One might wonder what the etymology behind that is, one might even find a similarity to Duytschen. One might also want to look at when Het Wilhemus was penned and compare that to when germany came into existence. Quoteand I would think that someone from the Netherlands would have a pretty good grasp of the Dutch language. You would think so, Marinus is still wrong though. Christine, vielleicht konst du Google Translator brauchen fur: Geef me godverdomme mijn fiets terug, Mof. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #68 January 13, 2012 QuoteTime to go back to school. That is not what it means. To be honest you're partly right. The national anthem is over four centuries old, and back then we (the Germans and the Dutch) were all called Dietsch. However, the second line is about a specific person (Willem of Nassau) Who happened to be from an area that's now German. I think that's why in the modern translation it kinda stuck as the word Duitsen which is literally German. It also says we "honour the king of Spain" later in that verse, and we gained independence from that sucker about 60 years later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,129 #69 January 13, 2012 QuoteHowever, the second line is about a specific person (Willem of Nassau) Who happened to be from an area that's now German. Not just the second line. The whole thig is about him. He is de "ik" He was born in Nassau-Dillenburg, actually his family "owned" that area, as well as an area in France and de Nederlanden. The reference to the king of Spain refers back to the 80-jarige oorlog and has nothing to do with your erroneous translation of the sentence, ben ik van Duitse bloed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #70 January 13, 2012 Yeah, maybe you should read a bit about the concept of humour. I know enough of the history of the Father of the Fatherland to know what the Wilhelmus is all about. I was just fooling around, an I thought that was rather clear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #71 January 13, 2012 QuoteQuoteBabelfish agrees with his translation...and I would think that someone from the Netherlands would have a pretty good grasp of the Dutch language. Babelfish is nou niet echt de beste manier om een juiste vertaling the krijgen. Put that in Babelfish. Then, maybe start wondering why the language spoken in Holland is called Dutch. One might wonder what the etymology behind that is, one might even find a similarity to Duytschen. One might also want to look at when Het Wilhemus was penned and compare that to when germany came into existence. Quoteand I would think that someone from the Netherlands would have a pretty good grasp of the Dutch language. You would think so, Marinus is still wrong though. Christine, vielleicht konst du Google Translator brauchen fur: Geef me godverdomme mijn fiets terug, Mof. I am not Christine. Marinus was right, absolutely. It is the second line. And he quoted it right. You should try to work with the Google translator. It's easy, for what I heard. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #72 January 13, 2012 QuoteChristine, vielleicht konst du Google Translator brauchen fur: Geef me godverdomme mijn fiets terug, Mof. Dus je hebt ook nog wat issues met Duitsers? Wel, mss moet je je daar na 67 jaar eens overheen zetten. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,129 #73 January 14, 2012 QuoteIt is the second line. And he quoted it right. Yes he quoted it right, he just doesn't understand the meaning of what he was quoting. They do teach the correct meaning in Dutch High Schools. I should know, I went through it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,129 #74 January 14, 2012 QuoteQuoteChristine, vielleicht konst du Google Translator brauchen fur: Geef me godverdomme mijn fiets terug, Mof. Dus je hebt ook nog wat issues met Duitsers? Wel, mss moet je je daar na 67 jaar eens overheen zetten. Doe ik zodra ik een goede mof tegenkom. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #75 January 14, 2012 QuoteYes he quoted it right, he just doesn't understand the meaning of what he was quoting. They do teach the correct meaning in Dutch High Schools. I should know, I went through it. Oh, I came close enough. But I'll be the first to admit that I only know the basic stuff about the anthem. And I don't think it's interesting enough to read the whole wikipedia article like you did. QuoteDoe ik zodra ik een goede mof tegenkom. Well, you probably don't know a whole lot of Germans, and ignorance is a common cause of bigotry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
