JohnRich 4 #1 October 6, 2011 News:ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed in July 2010 "New documents obtained by CBS News show Attorney General Eric Holder was sent briefings on the controversial Fast and Furious operation as far back as July 2010. That directly contradicts his statement to Congress. On May 3, 2011, Holder told a Judiciary Committee hearing, "I'm not sure of the exact date, but I probably heard about Fast and Furious for the first time over the last few weeks." Yet internal Justice Department documents show that at least ten months before that hearing, Holder began receiving frequent memos discussing Fast and Furious..."Full story: CBS News Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trafficdiver 8 #2 October 6, 2011 I wonder if this guy is going to stand up or if he'll throw Obummer under the bus? Remember when these lefty politicians (Hillary included) were blaming the violence in Mexco on American guns down there. That sure stopped once they found out it was this brain dead administration sending them. How long till Holder claims that guns don't kill people, people kill people? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #3 October 6, 2011 Quote How long till Holder claims that guns don't kill people, people kill people? That would be the first truthful statement he's made in a while. I'm thinking he should be "Frog Walked" out of his office and down the street to jail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trafficdiver 8 #4 October 13, 2011 Haha. Oh noes, the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy is back.http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/12/issa-issues-subpoena-to-holder-in-fast-and-furious-investigation/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybill 19 #5 October 13, 2011 QuoteNews:ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed in July 2010 "New documents obtained by CBS News show Attorney General Eric Holder was sent briefings on the controversial Fast and Furious operation as far back as July 2010. That directly contradicts his statement to Congress. On May 3, 2011, Holder told a Judiciary Committee hearing, "I'm not sure of the exact date, but I probably heard about Fast and Furious for the first time over the last few weeks." Yet internal Justice Department documents show that at least ten months before that hearing, Holder began receiving frequent memos discussing Fast and Furious..."Full story: CBS News Hi JR, 'How do you like yer "Shrooms" scrambled in an omlett or on a burger??? Take a gander at Mike Vanderboeghs' blog for today 12OCT11 currently the third post from the top "Issa drops the big one on Holder Ridge, secondary legal explosions seen in the direction of the White House!!" Sure Holder is gonna' stonewall but the document is written and posted for you, me and everyone to see. Lotsa questions, Got Answers?? PS Hop over to Dave Codreas' "War on Guns" blog (in the side bar on Sipsey Street) Dave covers it too. Pal, this is just the tip of the iceberg and it ain't like the "Reaper-Cussions" of a 3rd rate burglary!!SCR-2034, SCS-680 III%, Deli-out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trafficdiver 8 #6 October 13, 2011 Quotehttp://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com Funny how these riots/protests are popping up at the same time,,, Makes you wonder... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybill 19 #7 October 13, 2011 QuoteQuotehttp://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com Funny how these riots/protests are popping up at the same time,,, Makes you wonder... Hi BG, 'Not really, the "riots/protests" are rather recent however the "Gunwalker/Fast and Furious Fiasco" has been going on for a couple of years. Brian Terry was killed in DEC2010 and Gunwalker was going on way before then.SCR-2034, SCS-680 III%, Deli-out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trafficdiver 8 #8 October 13, 2011 Quote Quote Quote http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com Funny how these riots/protests are popping up at the same time,,, Makes you wonder... Hi BG, 'Not really, the "riots/protests" are rather recent however the "Gunwalker/Fast and Furious Fiasco" has been going on for a couple of years. Brian Terry was killed in DEC2010 and Gunwalker was going on way before then. I think these protests have been planned for a bit longer than you think...but I could be wrong. One way or another this is going to hurt Obama ALOT and I think most libs are seeing it. They sure are scared to post in this thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,679 #9 October 13, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com Funny how these riots/protests are popping up at the same time,,, Makes you wonder... Hi BG, 'Not really, the "riots/protests" are rather recent however the "Gunwalker/Fast and Furious Fiasco" has been going on for a couple of years. Brian Terry was killed in DEC2010 and Gunwalker was going on way before then. I think these protests have been planned for a bit longer than you think...but I could be wrong. One way or another this is going to hurt Obama ALOT and I think most libs are seeing it. They sure are scared to post in this thread. "DOG BITES MAN" (yawn) In my lifetime: Truman lied Eisenhower lied Kennedy lied Johnson lied Nixon lied Ford wouldn't have known one way or the other Carter lied Reagan lied Bush I lied Clinton lied Bush II lied... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trafficdiver 8 #10 October 13, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com Funny how these riots/protests are popping up at the same time,,, Makes you wonder... Hi BG, 'Not really, the "riots/protests" are rather recent however the "Gunwalker/Fast and Furious Fiasco" has been going on for a couple of years. Brian Terry was killed in DEC2010 and Gunwalker was going on way before then. I think these protests have been planned for a bit longer than you think...but I could be wrong. One way or another this is going to hurt Obama ALOT and I think most libs are seeing it. They sure are scared to post in this thread. "DOG BITES MAN" (yawn) In my lifetime: Truman lied Eisenhower lied Kennedy lied Johnson lied Nixon lied Ford wouldn't have known one way or the other Carter lied Reagan lied Bush I lied Clinton lied Bush II lied Great answer, comrade. Holder's not going to be able to use it under a congressional hearing though, especially if they have proof that he did know about Fast and Furious and lied to them. Imagine being so stupid that you lie about something with such a long paper trail. Only Obama would be stupid enough to support this guy, This is going to be so much fun to watch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,679 #11 October 13, 2011 Q. How do you know when the violas are playing out of tune? A. Their bows are moving. Q. How do you know when a politician is lying?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #12 October 13, 2011 Except the AG isn't supposed to be a political position. I know it is but it isn't supposed to be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,679 #13 October 13, 2011 QuoteExcept the AG isn't supposed to be a political position. I know it is but it isn't supposed to be. Yeah, right!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trafficdiver 8 #14 October 13, 2011 Quote Q. How do you know when the violas are playing out of tune? A. Their bows are moving. Q. How do you know when a politician is lying? So you're fine with Fast and Furious, Eric Holders involvement in it and subsequent lying to congress about it. Pretty much what I expected from you Comrade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #15 October 13, 2011 QuoteQuote Q. How do you know when the violas are playing out of tune? A. Their bows are moving. Q. How do you know when a politician is lying? So you're fine with Fast and Furious, Eric Holders involvement in it and subsequent lying to congress about it. Pretty much what I expected from you Comrade. How you twisted that out of that is...well, typical for SC. *yawn*My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #16 October 13, 2011 Yes, politicians lie. How many of them lied under oath to congress? How many Heads of DOJ lied under oath to congress about asinine programs that involved the death of at least two federal law enforcement officers? This isn't kissing babies and promissing lower taxes. This is a whole lot bigger than slick Willie's zipper-gate (perjury-gate), Iran-Contra, and any other presidential scandal I can remember. Did you take an "eh, Reagan lied, no big deal" response to Iran Contra?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,679 #17 October 13, 2011 QuoteYes, politicians lie. How many of them lied under oath to congress? How many Heads of DOJ lied under oath to congress about asinine programs that involved the death of at least two federal law enforcement officers? This isn't kissing babies and promissing lower taxes. This is a whole lot bigger than slick Willie's zipper-gate (perjury-gate), Iran-Contra, and any other presidential scandal I can remember. Did you take an "eh, Reagan lied, no big deal" response to Iran Contra? I don't expect any politicians to tell the truth. If YOU do, I'd like to sell you a nice bridge.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #18 October 13, 2011 QuoteQuoteYes, politicians lie. How many of them lied under oath to congress? How many Heads of DOJ lied under oath to congress about asinine programs that involved the death of at least two federal law enforcement officers? This isn't kissing babies and promissing lower taxes. This is a whole lot bigger than slick Willie's zipper-gate (perjury-gate), Iran-Contra, and any other presidential scandal I can remember. Did you take an "eh, Reagan lied, no big deal" response to Iran Contra? I don't expect any politicians to tell the truth. If YOU do, I'd like to sell you a nice bridge. Steel or fiberglass? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #19 October 13, 2011 QuoteQuoteYes, politicians lie. How many of them lied under oath to congress? How many Heads of DOJ lied under oath to congress about asinine programs that involved the death of at least two federal law enforcement officers? This isn't kissing babies and promissing lower taxes. This is a whole lot bigger than slick Willie's zipper-gate (perjury-gate), Iran-Contra, and any other presidential scandal I can remember. Did you take an "eh, Reagan lied, no big deal" response to Iran Contra? I don't expect any politicians to tell the truth. If YOU do, I'd like to sell you a nice bridge. Nonetheless, when you catch them at it you need to react. If not slope merely increases. This guy should be impeached. Presumably the prez will limit the damage by demanding he resign, but the effect is the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #20 October 13, 2011 I don't give a flying flip about what you expect. We're not talking about a politicians flapping gums. We are discussing our government directly supporting funding and taking part in smuggling small arms into a neighboring country. We are discussing a coverup and perjury from the Attorney General (you know, the top law enforcement officer in the country). We are talking about two dead federal law enforcement agents and two hundred or more dead Mexicans. So do you have something to say about that, or is it "eh, I don't care about integrity, dead cops, dead Mexicans, and smuggling guns" for contribution?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #21 October 13, 2011 QuoteI don't expect any politicians to tell the truth. If YOU do, I'd like to sell you a nice bridge. So tell us....who'd Holder run against in that election for AG?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #22 October 13, 2011 QuoteI don't give a flying flip about what you expect. We're not talking about a politicians flapping gums. We are discussing our government directly supporting funding and taking part in smuggling small arms into a neighboring country. We are discussing a coverup and perjury from the Attorney General (you know, the top law enforcement officer in the country). We are talking about two dead federal law enforcement agents and two hundred or more dead Mexicans. So do you have something to say about that, or is it "eh, I don't care about integrity, dead cops, dead Mexicans, and smuggling guns" for contribution? Why would you expect the AG, the top law enforcement officer to uphold the law? The Treasury Secretary doesn't file his taxes on time. Seems to me it's a culture of corruption. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #23 October 13, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Yes, politicians lie. How many of them lied under oath to congress? How many Heads of DOJ lied under oath to congress about asinine programs that involved the death of at least two federal law enforcement officers? This isn't kissing babies and promissing lower taxes. This is a whole lot bigger than slick Willie's zipper-gate (perjury-gate), Iran-Contra, and any other presidential scandal I can remember. Did you take an "eh, Reagan lied, no big deal" response to Iran Contra? I don't expect any politicians to tell the truth. If YOU do, I'd like to sell you a nice bridge. Nonetheless, when you catch them at it you need to react. If not slope merely increases. This guy should be impeached. Presumably the prez will limit the damage by demanding he resign, but the effect is the same. Impeaching anyone in gov was lost when the Republicans couldn't find their nuts and finish the Clinton impeachment A brave new standard."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trafficdiver 8 #24 October 14, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuote Q. How do you know when the violas are playing out of tune? A. Their bows are moving. Q. How do you know when a politician is lying? So you're fine with Fast and Furious, Eric Holders involvement in it and subsequent lying to congress about it. Pretty much what I expected from you Comrade. How you twisted that out of that is...well, typical for SC. *yawn* If I thought you could understand it I'd waste my time explaining it to you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trafficdiver 8 #25 October 14, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Yes, politicians lie. How many of them lied under oath to congress? How many Heads of DOJ lied under oath to congress about asinine programs that involved the death of at least two federal law enforcement officers? This isn't kissing babies and promissing lower taxes. This is a whole lot bigger than slick Willie's zipper-gate (perjury-gate), Iran-Contra, and any other presidential scandal I can remember. Did you take an "eh, Reagan lied, no big deal" response to Iran Contra? I don't expect any politicians to tell the truth. If YOU do, I'd like to sell you a nice bridge. Nonetheless, when you catch them at it you need to react. If not slope merely increases. This guy should be impeached. Presumably the prez will limit the damage by demanding he resign, but the effect is the same. Impeaching anyone in gov was lost when the Republicans couldn't find their nuts and finish the Clinton impeachment A brave new standard. This is oh so much worse then what they tried to get Clinton for. I'm not saying that Clinton didn't do worse things, but they only went after him for perjury. If Holder claims he didn't know about it. they nail him with lying to congress. If he admits he knew about it, they go after him for murder. Then he throws Obummer under the bus,,,, One can only hope. And libs can't say that it's only about sex either. What are you brain dead liberals going to say for this one, it's only about murder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites