Belgian_Draft 0 #226 January 11, 2011 You really have a problem understand the concept of of "not replaced", don't you?HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #227 January 11, 2011 Quoteso all we really need are farmers, prostitutes, tinkers and hunters everyone else is a specialist that we can do without Pretty much but I don't know why you included prostitutes.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #228 January 11, 2011 Quote Quote so all we really need are farmers, prostitutes, tinkers and hunters everyone else is a specialist that we can do without Pretty much but I don't know why you included prostitutes. Just because you have sheep , doesn;t mean everyone does... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #229 January 12, 2011 QuoteBut???But????? But????? You said yoru welding job is worth just as much as their job, You earn what they earn, NOW, you admit they work harder, longer, more stressful??? Which is it?? Just Ego talking? trying to make melting metal sounds as important as rebuilding bones, hearts, muscles? In terms of number of people benefitting from it, it is far more important. Surgeons have a direct impact on a relatively few people. Most people never have to have surgey. Work longer, sure. But that is a major reason why i feel they are not worth what they charge. If somebody is going to be cutting on me they damn well better be fresh and alert. I don't care if it is a heart transplant or remove my appendix. If they aren't then they are providing second-rate services. Harder? I doubt that very much. As a weldor yourself you should know that most surgeons would run home crying to mommy if they had to work in the conditions most weldors see every day. Laying on their back in a muddy trench freezing their ass off, etc. More stressfull? I'd put that at 50/50.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #230 January 12, 2011 Quote Quote Quote so all we really need are farmers, prostitutes, tinkers and hunters everyone else is a specialist that we can do without Pretty much but I don't know why you included prostitutes. Just because you have sheep , doesn;t mean everyone does... Whatever HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,425 #231 January 12, 2011 >In terms of number of people benefitting from it, it is far >more important. And the guy who picks up your trash is even more important in the grand scheme of things. (The Black Plauge demonstrated that pretty conclusively.) Should he make at least what a surgeon makes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #232 January 12, 2011 Quote trying to make melting metal sounds as important as rebuilding bones, hearts, muscles? Don't forget boobies! :) They're important too! linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #233 January 12, 2011 Quote Quote trying to make melting metal sounds as important as rebuilding bones, hearts, muscles? Don't forget boobies! :) They're important too! linz Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #234 January 12, 2011 Quote>In terms of number of people benefitting from it, it is far >more important. And the guy who picks up your trash is even more important in the grand scheme of things. (The Black Plauge demonstrated that pretty conclusively.) Should he make at least what a surgeon makes? The Black Plauge was spread by rats who transmitted it via fleas. It is well known that rats need very little to live on. They are quite abundant even in neighborhoods where our Gods surgeons live. Do you believe a person should have their wages restricted because of their job? Do you believe a man is entitled to charge what he wants for the work he does as long as the customer is willing to pay it? Do you believe a person is within their rights to take advantage of anothers misfortune by charging an hourly rate that is far in excess of what most other professionals make?HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #235 January 12, 2011 QuoteIf it got really bad, we'd just start eating the illegal aliens. Not without condiments, we won't. A world without condiments is a world in chaos. QuoteA bad carpenter can still build useful objects. The Union won't stand for this. Quality is job No.1!"...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #236 January 12, 2011 Quote>In terms of number of people benefitting from it, it is far >more important. And the guy who picks up your trash is even more important in the grand scheme of things. (The Black Plauge demonstrated that pretty conclusively.) Should he make at least what a surgeon makes? a welder could easily zap rats ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #237 January 12, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote so all we really need are farmers, prostitutes, tinkers and hunters everyone else is a specialist that we can do without Pretty much but I don't know why you included prostitutes. Just because you have sheep , doesn;t mean everyone does... Whatever LOL, only a joke, I couldn't resist!Yeah, for the conditions welders have to work in, (I always wanted to learn underwater welding) BUT, they choose many years of school, and even more years of Bills, to avoid that, and I woudl run screaming from those years in a classroom! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #238 January 12, 2011 QuoteQuote>In terms of number of people benefitting from it, it is far >more important. And the guy who picks up your trash is even more important in the grand scheme of things. (The Black Plauge demonstrated that pretty conclusively.) Should he make at least what a surgeon makes? a welder could easily zap rats Getting the ground clamped to their little foot is a bitch! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #239 January 12, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuote>In terms of number of people benefitting from it, it is far >more important. And the guy who picks up your trash is even more important in the grand scheme of things. (The Black Plauge demonstrated that pretty conclusively.) Should he make at least what a surgeon makes? a welder could easily zap rats Getting the ground clamped to their little foot is a bitch! that, and collecting a fee from the rat afterwards ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #240 January 12, 2011 QuoteYou really have a problem understand the concept of of "not replaced", don't you? no more a problem than you have with "the real world." I have a suspicion you don't find this thread nearly as funny as the rest of us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,425 #241 January 12, 2011 >The Black Plauge was spread by rats who transmitted it via fleas. It > is well known that rats need very little to live on. They are quite > abundant even in neighborhoods where our Gods surgeons live. Right. But when sanitation is good (i.e. sewers work, trash is hauled away, houses are well-constructed etc) the problem of flea-infested rats infecting people is minimal. >Do you believe a person should have their wages restricted because >of their job? Nope. Nor should their waged be elevated merely because they believe their job to be very important. >Do you believe a man is entitled to charge what he wants for the work he does > as long as the customer is willing to pay it? In most cases, yes. Even if they act like a douche. >Do you believe a person is within their rights to take advantage of anothers >misfortune by charging an hourly rate that is far in excess of what most other >professionals make? In most cases, yes. Bail bondsman, towing companies, fancy cocktail bars and hookers come to mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #242 January 12, 2011 Quote> >Do you believe a person is within their rights to take advantage of anothers >misfortune by charging an hourly rate that is far in excess of what most other >professionals make? In most cases, yes. Bail bondsman, towing companies, fancy cocktail bars and hookers come to mind. as well as, electricians, plumbers, A/C heat types (heck, ANY type of 'repair' business), cab drivers, DZOs, dentists, car dealers, skydiving equipment manufacturers, (endless list IYGWIM) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,425 #243 January 12, 2011 >as well as, electricians, plumbers . . . And riggers! Don't forget riggers. Those bloodthirsty vampires add insult to injury by having the gall to charge you _more_ after you have a malfunction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #244 January 12, 2011 Quote>as well as, electricians, plumbers . . . And riggers! Don't forget riggers. Those bloodthirsty vampires add insult to injury by having the gall to charge you _more_ after you have a malfunction. well, if a rich doctor or a rich welder had a mal, the rigger would be justified to charge triple for the repack but not the poor engineer, or IT guy, or paramedic right? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #245 January 12, 2011 QuoteNope. Nor should their waged be elevated merely because they believe their job to be very important. You mean like a surgeon?HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #246 January 12, 2011 Quote Quote You really have a problem understand the concept of of "not replaced", don't you? no more a problem than you have with "the real world." I have a suspicion you don't find this thread nearly as funny as the rest of us. Oh, don't worry, I have no problem with the real world. But some people do have problems when it comes to conceptualizing something they have never seen before even if it would never happen and is only a hypothetical situation. And, yes, I find this thread quite amusing. I am taking all posts with a grain of salt. Especially yours.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #247 January 12, 2011 Quote >The Black Plauge was spread by rats who transmitted it via fleas. It > is well known that rats need very little to live on. They are quite > abundant even in neighborhoods where our Gods surgeons live. Right. But when sanitation is good (i.e. sewers work, trash is hauled away, houses are well-constructed etc) the problem of flea-infested rats infecting people is minimal. >Do you believe a person should have their wages restricted because >of their job? Nope. Nor should their waged be elevated merely because they believe their job to be very important. >Do you believe a man is entitled to charge what he wants for the work he does > as long as the customer is willing to pay it? In most cases, yes. Even if they act like a douche. >Do you believe a person is within their rights to take advantage of anothers >misfortune by charging an hourly rate that is far in excess of what most other >professionals make? In most cases, yes. Bail bondsman, towing companies, fancy cocktail bars and hookers come to mind. Is there something you need to share with the class billy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #248 January 12, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote so all we really need are farmers, prostitutes, tinkers and hunters everyone else is a specialist that we can do without Pretty much but I don't know why you included prostitutes. Just because you have sheep , doesn;t mean everyone does... Whatever LOL, only a joke, I couldn't resist!Yeah, for the conditions welders have to work in, (I always wanted to learn underwater welding) BUT, they choose many years of school, and even more years of Bills, to avoid that, and I woudl run screaming from those years in a classroom! I am very claustrophobic and would never do well in an underwater welding environment, wet or dry. I also do not take well to water.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #249 January 12, 2011 Quote Quote >The Black Plauge was spread by rats who transmitted it via fleas. It > is well known that rats need very little to live on. They are quite > abundant even in neighborhoods where our Gods surgeons live. Right. But when sanitation is good (i.e. sewers work, trash is hauled away, houses are well-constructed etc) the problem of flea-infested rats infecting people is minimal. >Do you believe a person should have their wages restricted because >of their job? Nope. Nor should their waged be elevated merely because they believe their job to be very important. >Do you believe a man is entitled to charge what he wants for the work he does > as long as the customer is willing to pay it? In most cases, yes. Even if they act like a douche. >Do you believe a person is within their rights to take advantage of anothers >misfortune by charging an hourly rate that is far in excess of what most other >professionals make? In most cases, yes. Bail bondsman, towing companies, fancy cocktail bars and hookers come to mind. Is there something you need to share with the class billy? Maybe the movie "The Hangover" was based upon one of Bill's weekends away from home? Hmmmm....HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,425 #250 January 12, 2011 >You mean like a surgeon? Yes. If there is a poor surgeon out there who believes he should get more than other, more competent surgeons get - then their wages should not be artificially elevated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites