kallend 1,652 #151 December 11, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThe figures speak for themselves. YOU made an ubsubstantiated claim, and continue to misinterpret the word "health" as in "health care" as in the title of this thread. Stop making an ass of yourself. "Lies, damn lies and statistics" The only unsubstantiated claim in our little sub-topic is coming from YOU, perfesser. Maybe you should quit while you're way, WAY behind. Re-defining words doesn't help you, some of us DO have dictionaries. Less tap-dancing, more proof. Should be simple for a man of your towering ego intellect. Buy a dictionary, look up the definitions of the many words you habitually misuse. Start with "straw man", then go to "metaphor", then "hypocrisy", and now "health". And that is all the proof you need.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #152 December 11, 2009 We'll take that as a "no, I don't have any proof that healthcare has a major effect on life expectancy as a whole", then. Thanks for playing.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingOsh 0 #153 December 11, 2009 QuoteQuoteI was ready to post a serious response and then I got to this. Congratulations on losing all credibility with one sentence. Quite a feat. Yeah, that's a typical Republican excuse when they have nothing else to argue. But rest in peace, you're not the first. You and I had nearly two pages of honest discussion and then you admit part of the reason you'd like a $1T bill passed is to spite the other side. How very noble and reasonable that is. Fuck it though, it won't be us footing the bill, right? -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georgerussia 0 #154 December 11, 2009 Quote You and I had nearly two pages of honest discussion and then you admit part of the reason you'd like a $1T bill passed is to spite the other side. How very noble and reasonable that is. I would say this is at least honest from my side to admit it. And the reason for that is that a lot of Republicans bring so many various stupid reasons why this bill would fail that I really want to see the moment when they acknowledge that it works, and they were wrong. Also we had a discussion around the bill issues, and my position was pretty obvious for quite a while. I think it would work and I believe it would do at least better to the country citizens than Iraq war did. Why I believe such way is a different matter, and I do not see any way how would it affect our discussions about bill provisions and insurance profits. Even if my reasons were that I would receive personal permanent free healthcase after the bill passes, it would still not affect the discussions we had. Quote Fuck it though, it won't be us footing the bill, right? As well as other things. At least this one is more worthy to fund comparing to some other things which some of us do not support, but nevertheless have to fund - like wars* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,652 #155 December 11, 2009 QuoteWe'll take that as a "no, I don't have any proof that healthcare has a major effect on life expectancy as a whole", then. Thanks for playing. Who is this "WE"? What YOU take doesn't represent anything of value, since you choose to use a different vocabulary than everyone else. Note how you conveniently switch from "medical" to "health" and back again www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3749276#3749276 in a futile attempt to wriggle out of your own contradictions.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #156 December 11, 2009 QuoteQuoteWe'll take that as a "no, I don't have any proof that healthcare has a major effect on life expectancy as a whole", then. Thanks for playing. Who is this "WE"? What YOU take doesn't represent anything of value, since you choose to use a different vocabulary than everyone else. Note how you conveniently switch from "medical" to "health" and back again www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3749276#3749276 in a futile attempt to wriggle out of your own contradictions. *yawn* Still can't come up with anything, eh? Sucks to be you...but keep on trying to shoot the messenger, by all means.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,652 #157 December 11, 2009 Quote Quote Quote We'll take that as a "no, I don't have any proof that healthcare has a major effect on life expectancy as a whole", then. Thanks for playing. Who is this "WE"? What YOU take doesn't represent anything of value, since you choose to use a different vocabulary than everyone else. Note how you conveniently switch from "medical" to "health" and back again www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3749276#3749276 in a futile attempt to wriggle out of your own contradictions. *yawn* Still can't come up with anything, eh? Sucks to be you...but keep on trying to shoot the messenger, by all means. I don't have to - YOU made the uncorroborated claim that poor lifestyle was more important than medical care (previously cited post). I claim that health care includes lifestyle modification, which it does. In order to conceal your inability to substantiate YOUR claim, you just muddy the waters by confusing "health" with "medical". FACT: the USA has lower life expectancy than other industrialized nations with universal HEALTH care systems. (source: CIA FACT book). The US comes in well behind western Europe and around the same as Cuba!Use the same vocabulary as the rest of the English speaking world and you won't confuse yourself. While you're about it, provide PROOF that the USA does have a more unhealthy lifestyle than all these other nations.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #158 December 11, 2009 Quote I don't have to - YOU made the uncorroborated claim that poor lifestyle was more important than medical care (previously cited post). I claim that health care includes lifestyle modification, which it does. Unless you've got proof that doctors from universal healthcare coverage systems give different or better advice, your 'claim' is bullshit. You're just trying to cover your ass and failing miserably. Quote In order to conceal your inability to substantiate YOUR claim, you just muddy the waters by confusing "health" with "medical". From CDC: "Increase Your Chances of Living Longer Science shows that physical activity can reduce your risk of dying early from the leading causes of death, like heart disease and some cancers." Quote FACT: the USA has lower life expectancy than other industrialized nations with universal HEALTH care systems. (source: CIA FACT book). The US comes in well behind western Europe and around the same as Cuba! So fucking what? Americans are fatter and have worse diets than most of the rest of the world, too - said factors being major causes of heart disease, which is the leading cause of death for Americans. Lets look at some other numbers than expectancy at birth, shall we? (Info from CDC and the Office of Statistics for the UK). At age 55, an American male has a life expectancy of 79.7 years. A United Kingdom male has an expectancy of 80 years. At 60, US is 80.8 years. UK is also 80.8 At 65, US is 82.8. UK is 81.9. At 70, US is 83.7. UK is 83.4 At 75, US is 85.7. UK is 85.2 At 80, US is 88.2, UK is 87.6 At 85, US is 91.5, UK is 90.5 At 90, US is 94.4, UK is 93.9 No wonder you moved here...you knew you'd live longer, since the US medical system is the most effective and the medical system only really comes into play at end-of-live in regards to longevity. Quote While you're about it, provide PROOF that the USA does have a more unhealthy lifestyle than all these other nations. You first. That way you can concede the point before I bring up page after page of articles talking about the obesity problem. You know...like the thread about the school that wants to make EVERYONE take PE, here in SC? http://www.westandfirm.org/blog/uploaded_images/US-Health-785647.gifMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,652 #159 December 11, 2009 Quote At 60, US is 80.8 years. UK is also 80.8 At 65, US is 82.8. UK is 81.9. At 70, US is 83.7. UK is 83.4 At 75, US is 85.7. UK is 85.2 At 80, US is 88.2, UK is 87.6 At 85, US is 91.5, UK is 90.5 At 90, US is 94.4, UK is 93.9 Cool, so when Medicare kicks in ( a universal HEALTH care system for older Americans) the US finally catches up. Or are you next going to claim Americans suddenly get slimmer at age 65Still no proof of your claim that the US lifestyle leads to the differenceYou cherry picked just one country (convenient) for comparison. Why not choose Japan? The CIA seems to think the numbers are different from those that you cherry picked.BTW, you ARE aware that diet and exercise (lifestyle) counseling IS part of Healthcare, aren't you? No, from your responses guess you're not... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #160 December 11, 2009 Quote Cool, so when Medicare kicks in ( a universal HEALTH care system for older Americans) the US finally catches up. Or are you next going to claim Americans suddenly get slimmer at age 65 A more likely hypothesis is that the poor lifestyle choices (as well as our criminal elements) cull the herd before they get to 55. These are aspects that the health care system cannot do much about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #161 December 11, 2009 Quote BTW, you ARE aware that diet and exercise (lifestyle) counseling IS part of Healthcare, aren't you? No, from your responses guess you're not Really? Damn, there's a lot of teachers, coaches, fitness trainers etc etc etc practicing medicine without a license, then. IOW - BULLSHIT. Still waiting on the proof, perfesser...planning on providing some anytime soon?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,652 #162 December 11, 2009 Quote Quote BTW, you ARE aware that diet and exercise (lifestyle) counseling IS part of Health care, aren't you? No, from your responses guess you're not Really? Damn, there's a lot of teachers, coaches, fitness trainers etc etc etc practicing medicine without a license, then. IOW - BULLSHIT. Still unable to distinguish between health and medicine, I see. Health care professionals include (this is only partial list): Physicians Surgeons Nurses (various specialties) Midwives Dieticians Nutritionists Physiotherapists Dentists Dental hygienists Occupational therapists Health physicists Exercise therapists and trainers Psychologists Epidemiologists Optometrists Opticians Next: You provided the proof that you are mistaken when you provided data that once Americans reach an age where government sponsored HEALTH care kicks in, they catch up in the life expectancy area. Very nice of you to make my point, thanks.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #163 December 11, 2009 QuoteStill unable to distinguish between health and medicine, I see. Still unable to distinguish between advice and treatment, as usual. You have yet to show how medical ADVICE is somehow better in the socmed countries, perfesser, since you want to go that route. QuoteYou provided the proof that you are mistaken when you provided data that once Americans reach an age where government sponsored HEALTH care kicks in, they catch up in the life expectancy area. Medicare kicks in at 65, perfesser...when the US is ALREADY AHEAD of the UK. It just increases after that.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #164 December 11, 2009 QuoteA more likely hypothesis is that the poor lifestyle choices (as well as our criminal elements) cull the herd before they get to 55. These are aspects that the health care system cannot do much about. I'm not sure I agree. Of course, I am of the belief that complete sidewalk systems, bike paths, etc. should be considered part of and included in a comprehensive reform of healthcare. Thus, my disagreement with you may be nothing more than semantics (i.e., how should we define health care systems).Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,652 #165 December 11, 2009 Quote Quote Still unable to distinguish between health and medicine, I see. Still unable to distinguish between advice and treatment, as usual. You might want to think carefully about that reply, since it destroys your previous position. Quote You have yet to show how medical ADVICE is somehow better in the socmed countries, perfesser, since you want to go that route. Quote You provided the proof that you are mistaken when you provided data that once Americans reach an age where government sponsored HEALTH care kicks in, they catch up in the life expectancy area. Medicare kicks in at 65, perfesser...when the US is ALREADY AHEAD of the UK. It just increases after that. You might want to think even more carefully about the stupidity of THAT reply, however I doubt that you have the requisite math skills to do it.Here's a hint (not that it will help you), the output is a convolution of the input functions. Google may help you with the concept, but I suspect you are beyond help.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #166 December 11, 2009 QuoteStill unable to distinguish between advice and treatment, as usual. Comprehensive healthcare includes promotion of a healthy lifestyle and prevention of injuries and diseases, not just treatment when things go wrong.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,652 #167 December 11, 2009 QuoteQuoteStill unable to distinguish between advice and treatment, as usual. Comprehensive healthcare includes promotion of a healthy lifestyle and prevention of injuries and diseases, not just treatment when things go wrong. mnealtx uses different definitions of words than the rest of us. It's the only way he can convince himself that he is right.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #168 December 11, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteStill unable to distinguish between advice and treatment, as usual. Comprehensive healthcare includes promotion of a healthy lifestyle and prevention of injuries and diseases, not just treatment when things go wrong. Well...no shit. Boy, it's a good thing that doctors are the only ones that are giving out advice on lifestyle choices, huh? Oh, wait... My apologies for the sarcasm if you actually think that doctors have any control over lifestyle choices by the patient. Quotemnealtx uses different definitions of words than the rest of us. It's the only way he can convince himself that he is right. Just man up and admit you were wrong, perfesser.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 1,652 #169 December 12, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteStill unable to distinguish between advice and treatment, as usual. Comprehensive healthcare includes promotion of a healthy lifestyle and prevention of injuries and diseases, not just treatment when things go wrong. Well...no shit. Boy, it's a good thing that doctors are the only ones that are giving out advice on lifestyle choices, huh? Oh, wait... My apologies for the sarcasm if you actually think that doctors have any control over lifestyle choices by the patient. Quotemnealtx uses different definitions of words than the rest of us. It's the only way he can convince himself that he is right. Just man up and admit you were wrong, perfesser. In your dreams. Why not take some advanced math and statistics courses AND buy a dictionary BEFORE sticking your foot in your mouth again. All you have done in this thread is embarrass yourself, and provide excellent ammunition for those whose opinions you disagree with.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #170 December 12, 2009 Still no proof, eh perfesser? Damn..sucks to be you.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 1,652 #171 December 12, 2009 QuoteStill no proof, eh perfesser? Damn..sucks to be you. If you understood what was posted, you would see the total asininity of your comment. Unfortunately you simply have demonstrated no comprehension whatsoever. Go buy a dictionary, for all of our sakes.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #172 December 12, 2009 QuoteGo buy a dictionary, for all of our sakes. Go buy a fucking CLUE, for your own sake. You tried to tie socmed to life expectancy - cdc showed that one false. Then, you tried to spin a bullshit storm about advice - that one fails because doctors can't compel compliance with the advice. So - come up with some PROOF, or man up enough to admit you were spinning bullshit.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 1,652 #173 December 12, 2009 Quote Quote Go buy a dictionary, for all of our sakes. Go buy a fucking CLUE, for your own sake. You tried to tie socmed to life expectancy - cdc showed that one false. Nope, you simply misunderstood what you were posting. If YOU had a clue you'd know why. WHat you posted actually hurt your hypothesis but your analytical ability is too poor to see that. Quote Then, you tried to spin bullshit storm about advice - that one fails because doctors can't compel compliance with the advice. Can't compel anything at all, can they? It's not the USSR, you aren't forced to take meds or have surgery. That argument doesn't fly. Quote So - come up with some PROOF, or man up enough to admit you were spinning bullshit. You just make yourself look more and more idiotic when you can't (or more likely, won't) distinguish between health care and medical care. And you stubbornly continue to do it despite its having been pointed out to you a bunch of times already. health != medicine. Buy a dictionary.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #174 December 12, 2009 Quote Why not take some advanced math and statistics courses AND buy a dictionary BEFORE sticking your foot in your mouth again. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA as if Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #175 December 12, 2009 Quote Quote You tried to tie socmed to life expectancy - cdc showed that one false. Nope, you simply misunderstood what you were posting. If YOU had a clue you'd know why. WHat you posted actually hurt your hypothesis but your analytical ability is too poor to see that. Funny, I recall you being ALL OVER those numbers as proof that medicare was better... until I showed where the crossover was well before medicare kicked in. Now it's suddenly not proof at all. Amazing how that works. Sounds more like you're covering your ass after the fact. Feel free to prove me wrong, though. Quote Quote Then, you tried to spin bullshit storm about advice - that one fails because doctors can't compel compliance with the advice. Can't compel anything at all, can they? It's not the USSR, you aren't forced to take meds or have surgery. That argument doesn't fly. Which is why your argument about 'medical advice' is BULLSHIT. Thanks for finally admitting the point. Now that we've got all that out of the way... still waiting on some PROOF from you....however, I'm sure that all we'll see will be the usual character assassination. After all, it beats actually forming an argument.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. 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kallend 1,652 #169 December 12, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteStill unable to distinguish between advice and treatment, as usual. Comprehensive healthcare includes promotion of a healthy lifestyle and prevention of injuries and diseases, not just treatment when things go wrong. Well...no shit. Boy, it's a good thing that doctors are the only ones that are giving out advice on lifestyle choices, huh? Oh, wait... My apologies for the sarcasm if you actually think that doctors have any control over lifestyle choices by the patient. Quotemnealtx uses different definitions of words than the rest of us. It's the only way he can convince himself that he is right. Just man up and admit you were wrong, perfesser. In your dreams. Why not take some advanced math and statistics courses AND buy a dictionary BEFORE sticking your foot in your mouth again. All you have done in this thread is embarrass yourself, and provide excellent ammunition for those whose opinions you disagree with.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #170 December 12, 2009 Still no proof, eh perfesser? Damn..sucks to be you.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 1,652 #171 December 12, 2009 QuoteStill no proof, eh perfesser? Damn..sucks to be you. If you understood what was posted, you would see the total asininity of your comment. Unfortunately you simply have demonstrated no comprehension whatsoever. Go buy a dictionary, for all of our sakes.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #172 December 12, 2009 QuoteGo buy a dictionary, for all of our sakes. Go buy a fucking CLUE, for your own sake. You tried to tie socmed to life expectancy - cdc showed that one false. Then, you tried to spin a bullshit storm about advice - that one fails because doctors can't compel compliance with the advice. So - come up with some PROOF, or man up enough to admit you were spinning bullshit.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 1,652 #173 December 12, 2009 Quote Quote Go buy a dictionary, for all of our sakes. Go buy a fucking CLUE, for your own sake. You tried to tie socmed to life expectancy - cdc showed that one false. Nope, you simply misunderstood what you were posting. If YOU had a clue you'd know why. WHat you posted actually hurt your hypothesis but your analytical ability is too poor to see that. Quote Then, you tried to spin bullshit storm about advice - that one fails because doctors can't compel compliance with the advice. Can't compel anything at all, can they? It's not the USSR, you aren't forced to take meds or have surgery. That argument doesn't fly. Quote So - come up with some PROOF, or man up enough to admit you were spinning bullshit. You just make yourself look more and more idiotic when you can't (or more likely, won't) distinguish between health care and medical care. And you stubbornly continue to do it despite its having been pointed out to you a bunch of times already. health != medicine. Buy a dictionary.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #174 December 12, 2009 Quote Why not take some advanced math and statistics courses AND buy a dictionary BEFORE sticking your foot in your mouth again. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA as if Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #175 December 12, 2009 Quote Quote You tried to tie socmed to life expectancy - cdc showed that one false. Nope, you simply misunderstood what you were posting. If YOU had a clue you'd know why. WHat you posted actually hurt your hypothesis but your analytical ability is too poor to see that. Funny, I recall you being ALL OVER those numbers as proof that medicare was better... until I showed where the crossover was well before medicare kicked in. Now it's suddenly not proof at all. Amazing how that works. Sounds more like you're covering your ass after the fact. Feel free to prove me wrong, though. Quote Quote Then, you tried to spin bullshit storm about advice - that one fails because doctors can't compel compliance with the advice. Can't compel anything at all, can they? It's not the USSR, you aren't forced to take meds or have surgery. That argument doesn't fly. Which is why your argument about 'medical advice' is BULLSHIT. Thanks for finally admitting the point. Now that we've got all that out of the way... still waiting on some PROOF from you....however, I'm sure that all we'll see will be the usual character assassination. 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mnealtx 0 #170 December 12, 2009 Still no proof, eh perfesser? Damn..sucks to be you.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,652 #171 December 12, 2009 QuoteStill no proof, eh perfesser? Damn..sucks to be you. If you understood what was posted, you would see the total asininity of your comment. Unfortunately you simply have demonstrated no comprehension whatsoever. Go buy a dictionary, for all of our sakes.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #172 December 12, 2009 QuoteGo buy a dictionary, for all of our sakes. Go buy a fucking CLUE, for your own sake. You tried to tie socmed to life expectancy - cdc showed that one false. Then, you tried to spin a bullshit storm about advice - that one fails because doctors can't compel compliance with the advice. So - come up with some PROOF, or man up enough to admit you were spinning bullshit.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,652 #173 December 12, 2009 Quote Quote Go buy a dictionary, for all of our sakes. Go buy a fucking CLUE, for your own sake. You tried to tie socmed to life expectancy - cdc showed that one false. Nope, you simply misunderstood what you were posting. If YOU had a clue you'd know why. WHat you posted actually hurt your hypothesis but your analytical ability is too poor to see that. Quote Then, you tried to spin bullshit storm about advice - that one fails because doctors can't compel compliance with the advice. Can't compel anything at all, can they? It's not the USSR, you aren't forced to take meds or have surgery. That argument doesn't fly. Quote So - come up with some PROOF, or man up enough to admit you were spinning bullshit. You just make yourself look more and more idiotic when you can't (or more likely, won't) distinguish between health care and medical care. And you stubbornly continue to do it despite its having been pointed out to you a bunch of times already. health != medicine. Buy a dictionary.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #174 December 12, 2009 Quote Why not take some advanced math and statistics courses AND buy a dictionary BEFORE sticking your foot in your mouth again. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA as if Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #175 December 12, 2009 Quote Quote You tried to tie socmed to life expectancy - cdc showed that one false. Nope, you simply misunderstood what you were posting. If YOU had a clue you'd know why. WHat you posted actually hurt your hypothesis but your analytical ability is too poor to see that. Funny, I recall you being ALL OVER those numbers as proof that medicare was better... until I showed where the crossover was well before medicare kicked in. Now it's suddenly not proof at all. Amazing how that works. Sounds more like you're covering your ass after the fact. Feel free to prove me wrong, though. Quote Quote Then, you tried to spin bullshit storm about advice - that one fails because doctors can't compel compliance with the advice. Can't compel anything at all, can they? It's not the USSR, you aren't forced to take meds or have surgery. That argument doesn't fly. Which is why your argument about 'medical advice' is BULLSHIT. Thanks for finally admitting the point. Now that we've got all that out of the way... still waiting on some PROOF from you....however, I'm sure that all we'll see will be the usual character assassination. After all, it beats actually forming an argument.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
