gregpso 1 #1 October 21, 2009 How good is this the Aussie dollar is now worth 93 cents USA. I still earn $60000 pa (38 hr week) have 9 weeks leave per year get 3 months long service leave every ten years and universal health coverage. Extreme capitaliam has not worked time you moved a bit to the left like the rest of the civilised world (Europe and Australia)I tend to be a bit different. enjoyed my time in the sport or is it an industry these days ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #2 October 21, 2009 QuoteHow good is this the Aussie dollar is now worth 93 cents USA. I still earn $60000 pa (38 hr week) have 9 weeks leave per year get 3 months long service leave every ten years and universal health coverage. Extreme capitaliam has not worked time you moved a bit to the left like the rest of the civilised world (Europe and Australia) Exactly. It doesn't work within either, but for the very few. Love how people brag it up and we are the biggest debtor nation on earth. We're right at even with the Canadian dollar too, maybe 2 cents up on them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #3 October 21, 2009 QuoteHow good is this the Aussie dollar is now worth 93 cents USA. I still earn $60000 pa (38 hr week) have 9 weeks leave per year get 3 months long service leave every ten years and universal health coverage. Extreme capitaliam has not worked time you moved a bit to the left like the rest of the civilised world (Europe and Australia) How much of that income does the government take in taxes? What is your sales tax or GST?HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #4 October 21, 2009 QuoteQuoteHow good is this the Aussie dollar is now worth 93 cents USA. I still earn $60000 pa (38 hr week) have 9 weeks leave per year get 3 months long service leave every ten years and universal health coverage. Extreme capitaliam has not worked time you moved a bit to the left like the rest of the civilised world (Europe and Australia) How much of that income does the government take in taxes? What is your sales tax or GST? What is the standard of living? What is the happiness index? What is the state of the nation? I think the aus win in all cats. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gregpso 1 #5 October 21, 2009 10% gst. Income tax around $11000 out of $60000. Standard of living just fine. The Mrs also gets $60 per fortnight for 2 kids despite also working part time (around $27000 pa) OH yeah my son just got first home buyers grant of $15000 to buy first property. Oh yeah unemployment benefits never run out if you are looking for work. I suppose it sounds like Socialism to you but we still have a strong competive business sector. Do not get me wrong I love the States the people are friendly and a great place to travel but its the haves and the have nots. The middle class has been scewed. Experts are taking about $ for aussie $ very soon. Those banks over there re the sub prime etc have put you back. What would some of the great Presidents think now... the USA borrowing billions from Communist China just to stay a float. PS We still owe you big time for the second World war Thank you ! Thankyou! Thankyou ! Thanks General McArthur and troops Your finest hour. (Moon landings as well.. bravo !) Been a bit disappointing since then.I tend to be a bit different. enjoyed my time in the sport or is it an industry these days ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yarpos 4 #6 October 21, 2009 bloke...why do you feel the need to be such a twat? or are you just trolling up a storm? all this stuff is BS, swings and roundabouts will continue to operate and any situation you describe will be different in a year. There are aspects of US life that are great and aspects of OZ life that are great, Neither are definitively better than the other. Besides we all know that most places in Europe crap over both countries............regards, Steve the older I get...the better I was Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #7 October 21, 2009 Quote 10% gst. Income tax around $11000 out of $60000. Standard of living just fine. The Mrs also gets $60 per fortnight for 2 kids despite also working part time (around $27000 pa) OH yeah my son just got first home buyers grant of $15000 to buy first property. Oh yeah unemployment benefits never run out if you are looking for work. I suppose it sounds like Socialism to you but we still have a strong competive business sector. Do not get me wrong I love the States the people are friendly and a great place to travel but its the haves and the have nots. The middle class has been scewed. Experts are taking about $ for aussie $ very soon. Those banks over there re the sub prime etc have put you back. What would some of the great Presidents think now... the USA borrowing billions from Communist China just to stay a float. PS We still owe you big time for the second World war Thank you ! Thankyou! Thankyou ! Thanks General McArthur and troops Your finest hour. (Moon landings as well.. bravo !) Been a bit disappointing since then. LMAO Thats pretty funny. Actually without China though Australia would be as screwed as everywhere else. The difference is that where as Australia sells its resources to China America just sells its country and businesses to them. Australia rocks! (and Crocs rule! Steve said so!)When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #8 October 21, 2009 Quote The middle class has been scewed. Right, over there you would riot if they did what they do here. How do you get the underclass to buy off on the oppressive laws we have here? It's one thing to get fucked and be pissed, yet another to get fucked and like it / promote it. Quote I suppose it sounds like Socialism to you but we still have a strong competive business sector. Unemp comp is a form of socialims over here too, but if you're conservative you justify it by saying you earned it, therefore it's not redistribution (Socialism). Quote the USA borrowing billions from Communist China just to stay a float. And then denouncing Communism as a bad business model vesus US Capitalism Quote PS We still owe you big time for the second World war Thank you ! Thankyou! Thankyou ! What do ya mean, you guys played a big part too. The US was golden then other than the bombings at the end, but most of what the US did was great and I think we got drunk with praise and wanted to keep it up instead of sitting back enjoying our contribution, so we entered proxy wars and other BS that ended up as bullying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #9 October 21, 2009 Quotebloke...why do you feel the need to be such a twat? or are you just trolling up a storm? all this stuff is BS, swings and roundabouts will continue to operate and any situation you describe will be different in a year. There are aspects of US life that are great and aspects of OZ life that are great, Neither are definitively better than the other. Besides we all know that most places in Europe crap over both countries............ Europe and Aus are such diff places, but have similar govs. Remember, Switzerland and the UK aren't that much diff from elitist US, so not all of W Europe are good. As for neither are better, the social system here is basically nonexistent as compared to Aus and most of the rest of the world. The US is probably teh best place in the world if you have lots of money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #10 October 21, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteHow good is this the Aussie dollar is now worth 93 cents USA. I still earn $60000 pa (38 hr week) have 9 weeks leave per year get 3 months long service leave every ten years and universal health coverage. Extreme capitaliam has not worked time you moved a bit to the left like the rest of the civilised world (Europe and Australia) How much of that income does the government take in taxes? What is your sales tax or GST? What is the standard of living? What is the happiness index? What is the state of the nation? I think the aus win in all cats. I don't know....what IS the standard of living? What IS the "happiness index"? What IS the state of each nation? If you are going to compare those stats and use them to promote one nation over another, you need to put those stats out for everyone to see. Simply asking the question does not answer it. I like living here in the States just fine, thank you. No, we aren't perfect but when you Aussies reach perfection be sure to let us know what it is like.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 25 #11 October 21, 2009 The reason for the weakness of the US dollar is massive government borrowing. That has nothing to do with moving right or left, or whatever. It's just the simple fact that our government spends way more money than it has.-- Tom Aiello [email protected] SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,659 #12 October 21, 2009 QuoteThe reason for the weakness of the US dollar is massive government borrowing. That has nothing to do with moving right or left, or whatever. It's just the simple fact that our government spends way more money than it has. There's also the little matter of the balance of trade. The US runs a massive trade deficit.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 25 #13 October 21, 2009 Sure. But by far the biggest contributor is massive government borrowing, mostly to fund military adventurism in far flung places.-- Tom Aiello [email protected] SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #14 October 21, 2009 A quick check showed that the US defense budget for 2008 and the US trade deficit in 2008 were pretty close to each other. Both play a major role in our increasing debt.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tokter 0 #15 October 21, 2009 Quote Remember, Switzerland and the UK aren't that much diff from elitist US, so not all of W Europe are good. As a Swiss living in the US, I have to object to that, lol. Switzerland has similar principals as the USA, a government structure modeled after the USA, love for guns etc. but the actual implementation of policies are quite different than here. - Unemployment is like 3.9% currently - Even unskilled laborer makes like $3000 a month - No underclass that lives in mobile homes with plastic covered single pane windows. - Even the smallest of village can be reached by this thing called "Public Transportation" Living in the US is great though, if you make enough money that is. Anyways, sorry for the interruption... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 25 #16 October 21, 2009 QuoteA quick check showed that the US defense budget for 2008 and the US trade deficit in 2008 were pretty close to each other. Both play a major role in our increasing debt. Please explain how a trade deficit increases government debt. I really don't understand what you are saying. Defense spending is direct government spending. It is funded by either taxation, borrowing or printing money. Borrowing (or printing money--and with our system they are virtually the same thing) necessarily devalues the currency in circulation. Taxation does not (it has lots of other negative effects, of course). Trade deficits are aggregate numbers indicating total purchases and sales to customers in other nations. They do not directly impact federal budget deficits, because they do not represent direct federal spending. Trade deficits _do_ directly impact the value of the currency (Kallend's point), but they do not have an immediate effect on government indebtedness.-- Tom Aiello [email protected] SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 25 #17 October 21, 2009 I'm actually a big fan of Switzerland. If it was even remotely possible for me to acquire Swiss citizenship, I'd be moving there.-- Tom Aiello [email protected] SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #18 October 21, 2009 You guys need to get your heads out of your asses! You are missing the point! We'll now have to pay more for our Fosters! http://steelkaleidoscopes.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/08/21/fosters.gif SHIT! I mean I can live with out my Canadian beer but I need my Fosters!Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 25 #19 October 21, 2009 Fosters: It's Australian for "piss."-- Tom Aiello [email protected] SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #20 October 21, 2009 Quote Fosters: It's Australian for "piss." And what you drink Bud? No Bud Light....Miller not so Highlife? Shlitz? Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #21 October 21, 2009 Quote- No underclass that lives in mobile homes with plastic covered single pane windows. That's why you don't have tornadoes there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #22 October 21, 2009 QuoteQuoteThe reason for the weakness of the US dollar is massive government borrowing. That has nothing to do with moving right or left, or whatever. It's just the simple fact that our government spends way more money than it has. There's also the little matter of the balance of trade. The US runs a massive trade deficit. And that has to do with politics and the derailment of labor unions. etc. etc. etc. So it's all correlated and te right seems to want to offload jobs and crap on labor so we can no longer become a manufaturing nation. The good thing is taht as we do this, we become indebted as we hav to buy many things, our debt chokes our dollar and it falls, now we have to start manufacturing things again and find our roots. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 25 #23 October 21, 2009 You know why American beer is like making love in a canoe, right? I'm actually something of a beer snob. If it comes in a can, I'm pretty much not going to be drinking it. Have you tried Cooper's? The one that you are supposed to roll back and forth on it's side before you open it? That's an Australian beer I'll drink.-- Tom Aiello [email protected] SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #24 October 21, 2009 QuoteSure. But by far the biggest contributor is massive government borrowing, mostly to fund military adventurism in far flung places. Not really, it's big but not as big as undertaxing the rich. The Iraq War accounted for 16% of Bush's 5+T debt increase. Reagan's war on communism wasn't the primary culprit of his massive trippling of the debt, it was the tax cuts down to 28% at the end. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #25 October 21, 2009 Quote Quote Remember, Switzerland and the UK aren't that much diff from elitist US, so not all of W Europe are good. As a Swiss living in the US, I have to object to that, lol. Switzerland has similar principals as the USA, a government structure modeled after the USA, love for guns etc. but the actual implementation of policies are quite different than here. - Unemployment is like 3.9% currently - Even unskilled laborer makes like $3000 a month - No underclass that lives in mobile homes with plastic covered single pane windows. - Even the smallest of village can be reached by this thing called "Public Transportation" Living in the US is great though, if you make enough money that is. Anyways, sorry for the interruption... I was being very general, so I will defer to you. I have known people who immigrated from there to here. So a lot of things are the same, but they are actually humans there; what a concept. 1 question: Why the hell are here in this mess? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
