somethinelse 0 #1 August 2, 2008 i.e. Stalking is often referred to as universally understood... But honestly, isn't there a lot of variance? How would you know if that was the case? What kind of things would actually and accurately be discribed or attributed to a stalker? And do you/would you know if someone was "stalking you on-line? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #2 August 2, 2008 How could you tell, unless they made themselves known to you? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #3 August 3, 2008 it's easy to identify the person - their actions tend to show up. What varies is are they a true stalker, or just an inept woo'er. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MiataMan 0 #4 August 4, 2008 A stalker tries to control his or her victim through behavior or threats intended to intimidate and terrify. It is all about control.A man without a mustache is like a hamburger without a bun, Un-American. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #5 August 4, 2008 QuoteA stalker tries to control his or her victim through behavior or threats intended to intimidate and terrify. It is all about control. I don't believe that's necessarily true. A stalker is persistent and obsessive in their desire to be romantically/sexually involved with someone well beyond normal behavior. A stalker doesn't even necessarily need to be known to the victim, let alone in control of the situation. That said, once known, some victims may even find the behavior flattering at first, which, of course, only complicates matters latter on. All of this is, of course, on a sliding scale and there is no single line between for instance, a schoolboy crush on a cheerleader and attempting to kill a President to gain attention. Quite often people get labeled "stalkers" when really they're "bullies" or simply "disagreeable assholes". One is actionable, but to my knowledge, there is, unfortunately, no law against simply being an asshole. Hence, the number of "haters" on the internet.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MiataMan 0 #6 August 4, 2008 All the laws on stalking that I have read state control over part of the life of the victim as a requirement to be called stalking. Harassment is not stalking.A man without a mustache is like a hamburger without a bun, Un-American. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poe62 0 #7 August 4, 2008 QuoteA stalker tries to control his or her victim through behavior or threats intended to intimidate and terrify. It is all about control. Even if it's not the "stalker's" intent, if the victim feels that they are intimidated or terrified by any repetitive invasion of their life...then they are being stalked.~Nikki http://www.facebook.com/poe62 Irgity Dirgity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MiataMan 0 #8 August 4, 2008 Even if the victim feels that they are intimidated.... it may still just be harassment.A man without a mustache is like a hamburger without a bun, Un-American. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #9 August 4, 2008 Surely, Stalking is about the hunt, getting close to someone (physically or virtually) without their knowing - and that maybe why is it's more creepy when the victim does find out. It's not control, it's an invasion of privacy. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MiataMan 0 #10 August 4, 2008 I do not know what the stalking laws in the North Pole are. But in Texas, where I live, this is the law: Quote 42.072. STALKING. (a) A person commits an offense if the person, on more than one occasion and pursuant to the same scheme or course of conduct that is directed specifically at another person, knowingly engages in conduct, including following the other person, that: (1) the actor knows or reasonably believes the other person will regard as threatening: (A) bodily injury or death for the other person; (B) bodily injury or death for a member of the other person's family or household; or (C) that an offense will be committed against the other person's property; (2) causes the other person or a member of the other person's family or household to be placed in fear of bodily injury or death or fear that an offense will be committed against the other person's property; and (3) would cause a reasonable person to fear: (A) bodily injury or death for himself or herself; (B) bodily injury or death for a member of the person's family or household; or (C) that an offense will be committed against the person's property. (b) An offense under this section is a felony of the third degree, except that the offense is a felony of the second degree if the actor has previously been convicted under this section. (c) In this section, "family," "household," and "member of a household" have the meanings assigned by Chapter 71, Family Code. per http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/PE/content/htm/pe.009.00.000042.00.htm#42.072.00 from http://www.oag.state.tx.us/victims/stalking.shtml Putting fear in another person is control.A man without a mustache is like a hamburger without a bun, Un-American. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #11 August 4, 2008 QuotePutting fear in another person is control. Can you not see that a person can be afraid of something without that something attempting to be in "control" of the person? For instance, a person can be afraid of a spider, but certainly the spider doesn't even have a concept that it is trying to "control" the person.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites