Conspiracy Theorists - What do you think?

[flyhi 24]

Probably should have tried this after Katrina. All those pesky reporters just get under foot anyway.

Shit happens. And it usually happens because of physics.

[kallend 1,633]

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Probably should have tried this after Katrina. All those pesky reporters just get under foot anyway.

Maybe it was the brain-child of the same person that thought withholding NASA's report on airline safety was a good idea.

Who's in charge of this government?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[1969912 0]

That's unbelievable. If he and anyone else at FEMA who was involved should be fired. If the head of FEMA had anything to do with it then GB sould fire him (i assume the head of FEMA is a political appointee). Talk about crappy judgement, especially with the the distrust engendered during/afer Katrina.

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[akarunway 1]

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That's unbelievable. If he and anyone else at FEMA who was involved should be fired. If the head of FEMA had anything to do with it then GB sould fire him (i assume the head of FEMA is a political appointee). Talk about crappy judgement, especially with the the distrust engendered during/afer Katrina.

Just saw it on the news. Heads will roll on this one. Then the White house said they "WOULD NEVER DO ANYTHING LIKE THIS." Like they didn't know. Crooks and liars as usual.

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[sv3n 0]

Or the same idiots in charge of this...........http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/08/22/MN97RMND9.DTL

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Probably should have tried this after Katrina. All those pesky reporters just get under foot anyway.

Maybe it was the brain-child of the same person that thought withholding NASA's report on airline safety was a good idea.

Who's in charge of this government?

...and you're in violation of your face!

[kallend 1,633]

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Or the same idiots in charge of this...........http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/08/22/MN97RMND9.DTL

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Probably should have tried this after Katrina. All those pesky reporters just get under foot anyway.

Maybe it was the brain-child of the same person that thought withholding NASA's report on airline safety was a good idea.

Who's in charge of this government?

Must be Bush's Mushroom Theory of Government at work.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[sv3n 0]

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Or the same idiots in charge of this...........http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/08/22/MN97RMND9.DTL

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Probably should have tried this after Katrina. All those pesky reporters just get under foot anyway.

Maybe it was the brain-child of the same person that thought withholding NASA's report on airline safety was a good idea.

Who's in charge of this government?

Must be Bush's Mushroom Theory of Government at work.

It's the same thing that just happened to the report congress got on Global Warming. The white house has somebody give congress a report on global warming..................well afterwards people find out that the white house had the people making the report take a bunch of "bad" stuff out of the report. Now congress is trying to get the full report.........we'll see how that goes.

...and you're in violation of your face!

[kallend 1,633]

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Or the same idiots in charge of this...........http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/08/22/MN97RMND9.DTL

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Probably should have tried this after Katrina. All those pesky reporters just get under foot anyway.

Maybe it was the brain-child of the same person that thought withholding NASA's report on airline safety was a good idea.

Who's in charge of this government?

Must be Bush's Mushroom Theory of Government at work.

It's the same thing that just happened to the report congress got on Global Warming. The white house has somebody give congress a report on global warming..................well afterwards people find out that the white house had the people making the report take a bunch of "bad" stuff out of the report. Now congress is trying to get the full report.........we'll see how that goes.

Story:
www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/orl-ed28207oct28,0,4532229.story

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[AWL71 0]

Bush and the rest of the White House may not be the brightest bulbs in the pack but even they know that GW is a load of crap. Whatever happened to the Global Cooling that was being talked about in the 1970's? Nothing. And that is what we will be saying about GW in 20 years also. Nothing.

The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

[Rookie120 0]

Hollywood! Posting in the SC again after a few years off. Wife finally give you your balls back?

If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

[kallend 1,633]

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Bush and the rest of the White House may not be the brightest bulbs in the pack but even they know that GW is a load of crap. Whatever happened to the Global Cooling that was being talked about in the 1970's? Nothing. And that is what we will be saying about GW in 20 years also. Nothing.

So you agree with various branches of government that report to the Bush administration censoring NOAA reports and NASA reports, and holding bogus press conferences. OK.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[AWL71 0]

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Bush and the rest of the White House may not be the brightest bulbs in the pack but even they know that GW is a load of crap. Whatever happened to the Global Cooling that was being talked about in the 1970's? Nothing. And that is what we will be saying about GW in 20 years also. Nothing.

So you agree with various branches of government that report to the Bush administration censoring NOAA reports and NASA reports, and holding bogus press conferences. OK.

You love to put words into people's mouth. You do it relentlessly. Reread. My point was referring to the article you posted and my opinion on it. Nothing more.

The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

[sv3n 0]

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Bush and the rest of the White House may not be the brightest bulbs in the pack but even they know that GW is a load of crap. Whatever happened to the Global Cooling that was being talked about in the 1970's? Nothing. And that is what we will be saying about GW in 20 years also. Nothing.

If it's a load of crap then why would they censor a report? It's not their place to censor reports or take out the parts they don't like.

...and you're in violation of your face!

[billvon 2,403]

> Bush and the rest of the White House may not be the brightest bulbs
> in the pack but even they know that GW is a load of crap.

The reason most people know that global warming is happening is that they can look out their windows. Polticians can spew hot air from here to China. But when your house is sinking into the permafrost, or the forests you used to rely on for a living start dying off - you're going to believe what you see and not what some politician says.

>Whatever happened to the Global Cooling that was being talked
>about in the 1970's?

The global cooling thing in the 1970's was a statement by scientists that if we continued to increase the amount of aerosols we were spewing into the upper atmosphere, we'd see significant cooling due to increased reflection of light. We cut down on high altitude aerosols. Cooling stopped.

Likewise, we will see warming as long as we continue to emit CO2. If we stop emitting CO2, we will stop seeing warming (although it will take a while to draw down the excess CO2.)

So it's actually a similar situation. Want to fix this one?

[Amazon 7]

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So it's actually a similar situation. Want to fix this one?

Hell no.... I dig change

And think of all the new dive spots with underwater cities in FL...

[sv3n 0]

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> Bush and the rest of the White House may not be the brightest bulbs
> in the pack but even they know that GW is a load of crap.

The reason most people know that global warming is happening is that they can look out their windows. Polticians can spew hot air from here to China. But when your house is sinking into the permafrost, or the forests you used to rely on for a living start dying off - you're going to believe what you see and not what some politician says.

>Whatever happened to the Global Cooling that was being talked
>about in the 1970's?

The global cooling thing in the 1970's was a statement by scientists that if we continued to increase the amount of aerosols we were spewing into the upper atmosphere, we'd see significant cooling due to increased reflection of light. We cut down on high altitude aerosols. Cooling stopped.

Likewise, we will see warming as long as we continue to emit CO2. If we stop emitting CO2, we will stop seeing warming (although it will take a while to draw down the excess CO2.)

So it's actually a similar situation. Want to fix this one?

That's a pretty good way of saying it............actually, after reading it again it's probably the best way to explain it to people so they'll think about it for a second. Things like the new north passage opening up don't happen because nothing has changed.

...and you're in violation of your face!

[Esquilax 0]

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> Bush and the rest of the White House may not be the brightest bulbs
> in the pack but even they know that GW is a load of crap.

The reason most people know that global warming is happening is that they can look out their windows. Polticians can spew hot air from here to China. But when your house is sinking into the permafrost, or the forests you used to rely on for a living start dying off - you're going to believe what you see and not what some politician says.

>Whatever happened to the Global Cooling that was being talked
>about in the 1970's?

The global cooling thing in the 1970's was a statement by scientists that if we continued to increase the amount of aerosols we were spewing into the upper atmosphere, we'd see significant cooling due to increased reflection of light. We cut down on high altitude aerosols. Cooling stopped.

Likewise, we will see warming as long as we continue to emit CO2. If we stop emitting CO2, we will stop seeing warming (although it will take a while to draw down the excess CO2.)

So it's actually a similar situation. Want to fix this one?

Until the free market produces an economically viable way out of GW, It's not going to gain much momentum. Most people do not have a EE degree to design our own electric transport, nor do we have tens of thousands of dollars to blow on green technology that needs decades to become cost effective.

When you see celebs pimping some exotic technology that they can only afford, and guilting the rest of us because we cannot foot the bill, it earns them the title "Limousine Liberal, " and decimates their credibility.

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[kelpdiver 2]

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The global cooling thing in the 1970's was a statement by scientists that if we continued to increase the amount of aerosols we were spewing into the upper atmosphere, we'd see significant cooling due to increased reflection of light. We cut down on high altitude aerosols. Cooling stopped.

so...the solution is to start spewing aerosols again?

[billvon 2,403]

>Until the free market produces an economically viable way out of GW, It's
>not going to gain much momentum.

I agree there. I think the government has a role in assisting the free market in doing this, via things like tax breaks for solar installations. The idea is to get the economies of scale to kick in and start making it viable without assistance.

> Most people do not have a EE degree to design our own electric transport . . .

Right. But most people can buy a Prius or a Highlander, and most people can walk into a Home Depot, write a check and get a solar power system installed on their house. And most people can buy Energy Star appliances if they know to do so.

[billvon 2,403]

>so...the solution is to start spewing aerosols again?

That's one possible solution. But it would suck to realize the other bad effects they have (like, say, damaging the ozone layer, or making people sick) only after we started doing it.