hungarianchick 0 #101 May 3, 2006 Quote You'll be okay, unless you are mexican looking...whatever that is.... No, wait, I think I figured out his plan. He is gonna ask for my green card and since I can't show him one he is going to give me an ass kicking just in case and give me a week to show some papers. And when that's done he is just going to apologize for above mentioned ass kicking. Easy! "I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #102 May 3, 2006 I'm kinda mexican looking, jump at a major US DZ, and I dont have a green card. Damm... I'm doomed.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hungarianchick 0 #103 May 3, 2006 QuoteI'm kinda mexican looking, jump at a major US DZ, and I dont have a green card. Damm... I'm doomed. I think you are in for a major ass kicking too "I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,434 #104 May 3, 2006 >Damm... I'm doomed. Yep, he will be sending a green card inspector/ass kicker over momentarily. (Karen can stay with us while you're getting your ass kicked.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #105 May 3, 2006 Quote(Karen can stay with us while you're getting your ass kicked.) True. She isnt mexican looking.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eiley 0 #106 May 4, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteOr half the packing mat at any large DZ... and a fair share of other DZ staff....I wonder how many of the participants in this thread who are ranting and raving about illegal immigrants would stop jumping at a DZ that knowingly allows illegal immigrants to make money on their premises? Wouldn't leave a whole lot of DZ to jump at. But god forbid all these self righteous ranters and ravers on here would start in their own back yard.... I would have a big problem if a DZ I was jumping at was employing illegal immigrants. Especially if they were paying them less than prevailing wages. A DZO hiring illegals is a slap in the face to the DZO's that try to do things by the law. - I trust you also wouldn't use an American packer who you suspected was not declaring all of their income from packing? What's the difference? nothing to see here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #107 May 4, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteOr half the packing mat at any large DZ... and a fair share of other DZ staff....I wonder how many of the participants in this thread who are ranting and raving about illegal immigrants would stop jumping at a DZ that knowingly allows illegal immigrants to make money on their premises? Wouldn't leave a whole lot of DZ to jump at. But god forbid all these self righteous ranters and ravers on here would start in their own back yard.... I would have a big problem if a DZ I was jumping at was employing illegal immigrants. Especially if they were paying them less than prevailing wages. A DZO hiring illegals is a slap in the face to the DZO's that try to do things by the law. - I trust you also wouldn't use an American packer who you suspected was not declaring all of their income from packing? What's the difference? I don't use packers. The difference is the American packer is a citizen of this country. The illegal is an uninvited guest. FYI I have a big problem with those who don't pay their taxes, citizen or not. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eiley 0 #108 May 4, 2006 QuoteQuoteI trust you also wouldn't use an American packer who you suspected was not declaring all of their income from packing? What's the difference? I don't use packers. Okay, what if you heard that the manifestor was being paid in jumps and you suspected she wasn't declaring the value of those jumps on her tax return? Quote The difference is the American packer is a citizen of this country. The illegal is an uninvited guest. Rubbish. The vast majority of non-American DZ workers are in America on tourist visas. They are very much 'invited' - I'd go so far as to say 'encouraged'. The typical scenario would go like this: Skydiver arrives in USA for a year of hardcore jumping with $5000 in his pocket. It's not enough, so he supplements it with packing. He spends the money earned on food, travel, accomodation, jumping - in America. America has received a $5000 injection into its economy and the money earned and then re-spent has (more ore less) a nil effect on the economy. America is the net winner. nothing to see here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #109 May 4, 2006 Actually, that's a good point.... do people in the US' feel the same way about tax dodgers or are they just cheeky chappies that aren't doing any harm,. Gosh good luck to them? The reality is that they probably have a more damaging effect on the economy than the illegal migrants..... It would be educating to see some real figure$. . (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,434 #110 May 4, 2006 >The illegal is an uninvited guest. Odd to hear people like Patrick Passe, Wendy Smith, Willem Grobler etc described as 'uninvited guests.' We are fortunate that most other countries do not see us in the same light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stitch 0 #111 May 4, 2006 LOOK OUT!!!.......Flesh eating termites!!!"No cookies for you"- GFD "I don't think I like the sound of that" ~ MB65 Don't be a "Racer Hater" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,145 #112 May 4, 2006 funny that when things started getting close to home many of the previous posters (GM excluded) ran for the hills....nothing to be heard from them again. Easy to bitch and moan about others, harder to do when it directly impacts you or those close to you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #113 May 4, 2006 Quote>The illegal is an uninvited guest. Odd to hear people like Patrick Passe, Wendy Smith, Willem Grobler etc described as 'uninvited guests.' We are fortunate that most other countries do not see us in the same light! Gee Bill maybe you want to trade lives with some of us who have traveled and nearly 100% of the time are thoroughly scrutinized before being allowed into a country even AFTER receiving a VISA. Bill nearly any country can be snuck into, what differentiates the United States from all others is what is done with you when caught. If anyone believes you will receive the same fair and decent treatment an illegal here in the the US will get. I would love to see you try it!I have a nice long list of countries I would implore you to try this on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #114 May 4, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteI trust you also wouldn't use an American packer who you suspected was not declaring all of their income from packing? What's the difference? I don't use packers. Okay, what if you heard that the manifestor was being paid in jumps and you suspected she wasn't declaring the value of those jumps on her tax return? Quote The difference is the American packer is a citizen of this country. The illegal is an uninvited guest. QuoteRubbish. The vast majority of non-American DZ workers are in America on tourist visas. They are very much 'invited' - I'd go so far as to say 'encouraged'. The typical scenario would go like this: Skydiver arrives in USA for a year of hardcore jumping with $5000 in his pocket. It's not enough, so he supplements it with packing. He spends the money earned on food, travel, accomodation, jumping - in America. But this isn't what you originally asked. You said: QuoteI trust you also wouldn't use an American packer who you suspected was not declaring all of their income from packing? What's the difference?and I answered that question. Now you are caliming you asked something different. QuoteAmerica has received a $5000 injection into its economy and the money earned and then re-spent has (more ore less) a nil effect on the economy. America is the net winner. and if the income had been generated by someone here legally, they would have to pay taxes. Don't you get this is one of the problems Americans have with illegals? I have no problem with someone in the US legally who also pays taxes to for taking advantage of the infrastructure paid for by taxes. If not, I consider that person an uninvited guest and I really don't care how cool they are. If they are so cool, how come they are tax cheaters? - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,434 #115 May 4, 2006 >Gee Bill maybe you want to trade lives with some of us who have >traveled and nearly 100% of the time are thoroughly scrutinized before >being allowed into a country even AFTER receiving a VISA. I have! Been fortunate enough to skydive in five different countries, and travel to 20 or so. Always been welcomed, and haven't ever been described as an "uninvited guest" or gotten my ass kicked because I didn't have a green card - even when someone gives me a few baht (or euros, or pesos) for organizing or packing for someone so they could make the last load. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #116 May 4, 2006 Quote>Gee Bill maybe you want to trade lives with some of us who have >traveled and nearly 100% of the time are thoroughly scrutinized before >being allowed into a country even AFTER receiving a VISA. I have! Been fortunate enough to skydive in five different countries, and travel to 20 or so. Always been welcomed, and haven't ever been described as an "uninvited guest" or gotten my ass kicked because I didn't have a green card - even when someone gives me a few baht (or euros, or pesos) for organizing or packing for someone so they could make the last load. Were you in these countries illegally? - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,434 #117 May 4, 2006 >Were you in these countries illegally? By the letter of the law, yes. In one place you had to declare if you were carrying anything worth more than $1000 US. I had a $2500 computer that my traveling companions (from work) told me not to declare because it's a major hassle. In another it was illegal to work without a work visa, but I got a few dollar's equivalent for organizing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 5 of 5 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
billvon 2,434 #115 May 4, 2006 >Gee Bill maybe you want to trade lives with some of us who have >traveled and nearly 100% of the time are thoroughly scrutinized before >being allowed into a country even AFTER receiving a VISA. I have! Been fortunate enough to skydive in five different countries, and travel to 20 or so. Always been welcomed, and haven't ever been described as an "uninvited guest" or gotten my ass kicked because I didn't have a green card - even when someone gives me a few baht (or euros, or pesos) for organizing or packing for someone so they could make the last load. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #116 May 4, 2006 Quote>Gee Bill maybe you want to trade lives with some of us who have >traveled and nearly 100% of the time are thoroughly scrutinized before >being allowed into a country even AFTER receiving a VISA. I have! Been fortunate enough to skydive in five different countries, and travel to 20 or so. Always been welcomed, and haven't ever been described as an "uninvited guest" or gotten my ass kicked because I didn't have a green card - even when someone gives me a few baht (or euros, or pesos) for organizing or packing for someone so they could make the last load. Were you in these countries illegally? - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,434 #117 May 4, 2006 >Were you in these countries illegally? By the letter of the law, yes. In one place you had to declare if you were carrying anything worth more than $1000 US. I had a $2500 computer that my traveling companions (from work) told me not to declare because it's a major hassle. In another it was illegal to work without a work visa, but I got a few dollar's equivalent for organizing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
