atree 0 #51 April 22, 2006 Really people. Who gives a shit about Pope gregory and his calendar? Answer : Most of the world. Actually that day would be the 11th day during the season of confusion which is the third season of the discordian calendar. THE ONE TRUE CALENDAR Day of the week = Boomtime. Year : 3172. So really it's 11/03/72. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discordian_calendar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #52 April 22, 2006 I'm surprised none of the Christians brought this up. In the Lord's prayer, given to us by Jesus Christ he says "Thy Kingdom come, Thy Will be done; on earth as it is in Heaven". This is a promise given to us, but it does not give a date or hour...just that it will be. Doesn't sound like the end of the world to me. Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 142 #53 April 22, 2006 I thought the 'coming of the Lord' was supposed to be a good thing, not the disaster that you have appear to be predicting.... you religious types are so full of ...... TK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #54 April 22, 2006 QuoteI thought the 'coming of the Lord' was supposed to be a good thing, not the disaster that you have appear to be predicting.... you religious types are so full of ...... I'm probably one of those 'religious types'. However, I see only optimism. I don't believe Jesus' 2nd coming is to destroy the world but rather restore it. That should be something everyone would look forward to. Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #55 April 22, 2006 QuoteJESUS WAS NO MORE REAL THEN THAN THE MAN IN THE MOON IS TODAY, THE PROOF IS THERE, ALL ANYONE HAS TO DO IS PUT THEIR "BIBLE" DOWN AND LOOK. ANCIENT EGYTIAN RECORDS MAKE NO MENTION OF ISREALITES IN CAPTIVITY. 'ALLEGEDLY' SUN(JESUS) SAID HE WOULD RETURN BEFORE THAT GENERATION HAD PASSED. YOU FOLKS ARE ABOUT 2000 YEAARS TOLATE. REVELATIOMIS PROVABLY 4000 YEARS OLD I find it very interesting that there are MANY, many people out there who try and refute the Bible. Time and again, you hear all these different theories and stories about the "real truth" of the Bible. People don't seem to have peace; they have some kind of reason to try and make the Bible false, so they don't have to believe it. I don't know about you, but I don't hear of many people who sit there and try and refute the claims of other religions. How many people try and make up stories about Buddha? How many different theories are out there, that try and claim Buddha never really lived, his followers are just a bunch of kooks? Hmm, interesting, I don't really see many people attacking the teachings of other religions; I don't hear of any people that try and change the fundamental truths of that religion. However, when it comes to Christianity, that's a different story. If people try and make the Bible a book of lies, in their mind they can have peace and "know" they won't ever have to stand before God at the end of their life. I wonder why this could be? Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #56 April 22, 2006 QuoteI thought the 'coming of the Lord' was supposed to be a good thing, not the disaster that you have appear to be predicting.... you religious types are so full of ...... TK When Jesus comes back for His followers, it WILL be a glorious day; however, for those who will be left behind, it WILL be a horrific time to live in. Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #57 April 22, 2006 If people try and make the Bible a book of lies, in their mind they can have peace and "know" they won't ever have to stand before God at the end of their life. I don't think it has so much to do with worrying about standing before God as it does with not being willing to take "on faith" what doesn't agree with knowledge that humanity has gained over time.-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #58 April 22, 2006 How does the question of whether or not Jesus PHYSICALLY existed (of course, the question of his divinity is a matter of faith) refute makind's knowledge gained over time? There is as much evidence of Jesus' existence as many other figures from ancient times, and yet you don't hear anyone else disputing the existence of Sargon, or Alexander the Great, or Lao Tsu, or Hannibal, or Pliny, or Prince Siddhartha aka the Buddha, or Aristotle. Out of all the historical figures from ancient times, all of a sudden it is only Jesus' existence that people have to say, "Well, uh, uh, maybe there was never such a person at all...." Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairyjuan 0 #59 April 22, 2006 some one who was NEVER born and absolutely, provably so, cannot ever come back. the "rapture" is an absurd story that gets people to do what nothing, when doing nothing is the source ofthe problemwe are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively wishers never choose, choosers never wish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairyjuan 0 #60 April 22, 2006 no one has ever "tried" to refute the bible. it has been PROVEN FALSE. Defenders of "faith" truly fall in the category of a drug addict in DENIAL.we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively wishers never choose, choosers never wish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #61 April 22, 2006 Quoteno one has ever "tried" to refute the bible. it has been PROVEN FALSE. Defenders of "faith" truly fall in the category of a drug addict in DENIAL. Okay, who proved it when and HOW? Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairyjuan 0 #62 April 22, 2006 the bible is provably not credible, get over it so WE can ALL unite for the betterment of all humanitywe are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively wishers never choose, choosers never wish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likearock 1 #63 April 22, 2006 Quotesome one who was NEVER born and absolutely, provably so, cannot ever come back. How can you possibly prove that someone was NEVER born Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairyjuan 0 #64 April 22, 2006 proof has already been forwarded to you, young lady!that you not read or watched any of it is the only reason you ask me to prove to you a second time. why haven't you read all the information or taken me up on my offer to provide you with copies. i suggest that it is because you are to afraid ofthe truth. i ask you again, why do you denigrate the beautiful person you REALLY are by believing that you are a born-in-sin pile of ------ in need of salvation , when the truth of the matter is that you are a part perfection as you sit and read this. mitakuye oyasinwe are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively wishers never choose, choosers never wish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairyjuan 0 #65 April 22, 2006 it is historical factwe are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively wishers never choose, choosers never wish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NelKel 0 #66 April 22, 2006 666 is the number of the beast, not the day the world will end.Or Whatever._________________________________________ Someone dies, someone says how stupid, someone says it was avoidable, someone says how to avoid it, someone calls them an idiot, someone proposes rule chan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likearock 1 #67 April 22, 2006 Quoteit is historical fact That's not a proof. It's just an unsubstantiated assertion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #68 April 22, 2006 I find it highly unusual when people spend so much time refuting that which they don't believe in. If you don't believe it, that's your choice. Why would people get so worked up, and spend so much time, arguing about something they don't believe exists? BTW hairyjuan, I did read some of that link you sent me. It was an extremely long article, but I got the main ideas of it. Just because someone writes their opinion about what happened, doesn't make it true. Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #69 April 22, 2006 Quotethe bible is provably not credible, get over it so WE can ALL unite for the betterment of all humanity I think the Bible is the only thing keeping people strong in this day and age. When people have no problem lying, beating their children, cheating on their spouse, having sex with animals, etc, how on earth is eliminating God's word, which goes against all the nasty things I mentioned above, do anyone any kind of good? I am a better person as a result of reading the Word of God. I am more loving and more kind than I ever thought I could be. I am no where near the kind of person I desire to be, but God has changed me a lot. I have experienced some very personal times where God revealed His presence to me in an awesome way. Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NelKel 0 #70 April 22, 2006 I think the Bible is the only thing keeping people strong in this day and age.<<< Windcatcher, Did I mention I'm Catholic. I'm 35 years old now, but when I was 11, and 12 I was an alter boy in the church.(NO I wasn't molisted). I spent 10 years going to Private schools. (Catholic). I finally got kick out at my own request, when I told the Vice Principal at this school I was forced to go to school here by my parents. I wanted to go to public school or I wanted to go to a co-ed school. Yeah that right The school I went to until I was a Junior was all boys. I have a very religious upbringing. I am a good person and I try to treat others with respect no matter what their faith is. I can tell you that the Holy Bible is a collection of works written my religious authors that was compiled by the church to convey the beliefs THEY want you to . THE BIBLE IS NOT A COMPLEAT WORK! It has a lot omitted from it. Blame the pope. Hope this helps._________________________________________ Someone dies, someone says how stupid, someone says it was avoidable, someone says how to avoid it, someone calls them an idiot, someone proposes rule chan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #71 April 22, 2006 QuoteTHE BIBLE IS NOT A COMPLEAT WORK! Sometimes typos are more true than they were meant to be. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #72 April 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteit is historical fact That's not a proof. It's just an unsubstantiated assertion. Look, he typed it in ALL CAPS earlier, so you may as well give it up. It's hard to dipute stuff in ALL CAPS. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #73 April 22, 2006 Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likearock 1 #74 April 23, 2006 QuoteQuoteTHE BIBLE IS NOT A COMPLEAT WORK! Sometimes typos are more true than they were meant to be. That's not a typo, it's just olde English. Haven't read much Chaucer, have you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #75 April 23, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteTHE BIBLE IS NOT A COMPLEAT WORK! Sometimes typos are more true than they were meant to be. That's not a typo, it's just olde English. Haven't read much Chaucer, have you? Like a bolt of light from the sky, a leap of logic we can all gape at. *gape* First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites