What about the Pisa 190

[GulfCoastXtreme 0]

I have just made a deal with a guy who is selling a Pisa 190. I am asking some of you who know something about it to give me some advise and to let me know what I am in for. This will be my first rig and I don’t want to make any mistakes. Thanks!
Peace Love and Soul
GCX

[skymama 35]

I jump a Hornet 190, is that the one you are talking about, made by Pisa?
Andrea
The brave may not live forever, but the timid may not live at all.

[freeflir29 0]

Yep..PISA makes two differen't canopies in that size. The Hornet and Heatwave. The Hornet is semi elyptical and the Heatwave a full elyptical. If this is your first canopy it shouldn't be a Heatwave....."I got some beers....Let's Drink em!!!"
Clay

[skymama 35]

Ok, then, if it's a Hornet you wil be getting, I think you will like it. Do a search on the forums, a lot of people have put in their opinions about the flight characteristics already. In my opinion, you'll get smooth openings, and a responsive canopy.
Hey, wait a minute...my rig is up for sale (it's too big for me)..buy mine, buy mine!
Andrea
The brave may not live forever, but the timid may not live at all.

[MiataDRM 0]

To add on to what others have said...PISA makes 3 canopies that are sold in the US...2 mains (Hornet & Heatwave) & 1 reserve (Tempo).
As a first canopy, the hornet is GREAT! Most put 100's of jumps on it and still love it! It comparable to the Saber-II in many ways (except for swooping/diving) only much cheaper (price wise). New Hornets are sold @ www.para-service.com for $910, so use that as a bargaining tool. I got mine for $675 w/ 40 jumps...but that was pure luck! Search the forum (especially Gear & Rigging forum) and you will find many threads about the Hornet. Also, make sure to pick your instructors brain...they are a wealth of knowledge. Hope this helps.
Blue Sky & Semper Fi
Majdi

[Kris 0]

Actually, they make four canopies:
Hornet - Semi-elliptical
Heatwave - Elliptical
Tempo - Reserve (now with spanwise reinforcement)
Skymaster - Hybrid (ZP top-skin, F-111 bottom skin) student main
Kris

[MiataDRM 0]

Damn! You beat me to it! I just logged back on to edit my post :o)
**I still can't believe I turned down a road trip to Sebastian!
**I'm a pschydiver
Blue Sky & Semper Fi
Majdi

[riggerrob 561]

Actually, PISA makes 4 canopies in that size and they used to make a fifth: the Coe D series of F-111, 9-cells. The Coe D series were built under license from Performance Designs. Fine canopies in their day, but they have fallen out of fashion.

[GulfCoastXtreme 0]

This canopy was manufactured in 93'. What year were these made would be my question. I will not know any details until I get the rig. Hopefully within a week. Then I will know more about it.
GCX

[freeflir29 0]

OK....since we are splitting hairs....The Skymaster only comes in 230 and 290 Sq Ft sizes. Then you have the Tempo reserve, Hornet, Heatwave, and this COE D (Hadn't heard of that one) Is that complete? "I got some beers....Let's Drink em!!!"
Clay

[Kris 0]

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OK....since we are splitting hairs....The Skymaster only comes in 230 and 290 Sq Ft sizes.

Sorry to burst your bubble, Clay but at my DZ we have Skymaster 200's, 230's and 290's. I think we might even have one 260 but I would have to check...
Kris
Trust me, I hooked them up.

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[airann 1]

Is there ANY possible way we could answer the question.
And, I always get nervous when somebody says ...trust me I hooked them up..
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Ugly Girl #6

[AggieDave 6]

Well, if you're talking about a Hornet 190, I love the one I've been jumping. I feel like its just about right for my skill level (or lack of skill ). I recently found out that it doesn't like very very rapid alternating turns, the canopy collapses, but I'm willing to be I would have collapsed ANY canopy trying to do what I was doing (I was over 4k when I was doing it, though).
AggieDave '02
Too much of anything is bad, Too much burbon is just right.--MarkTwain

[Kris 0]

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And, I always get nervous when somebody says ...trust me I hooked them up..

Hehe. You should only worry when I say that in relation to my own rig. It's policy at my DZ that any work (not requiring a certified rigger) on student rigs is checked by no less than two other staff members or a staff rigger.
Kris
Now packing... that's a completely different story for me. Especially sad since I jump a Stiletto.

[freeflir29 0]

"Skymaster 200's, 230's and 290's"
Must be old stuff.....the only ones I see that you can order new....today.....are 230 and 290......according to my trusty friends at Skykat anyway...."I got some beers....Let's Drink em!!!"
Clay

[Kris 0]

Well, we bought all of them new w/ 0-jumps from Ralph at Western Parachute Sales this summer but to be honest, I think the 200's had been in his stock for about a year or so.
Kris