lippy 779 #1 April 30, 2002 So I'm going back east for the first time in almost 2 years, and I wanna do some jumping back there. I'm just wondering if anybody has tried to get on a commercial flight with a rig lately, and how it went...I hate the thought of my Cypres being thrown around under the plane, so I'd like to take it carry-on if possible. Also, anybody in here jump in N.S., Canada. I'm hitting Skydive Unlimited in Stewiake for a couple days, and it'd be cool to meet up with some DZ.comers out there. 'that's one case of beer I'm all too glad to buy'Lippy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buckleme 0 #2 April 30, 2002 had no problems in february going cinci to texas. there were lots of us jumpers that went and i dont think anyone did. best bet is to try to put it in a bag that looks plain so. dont wear skydiving stuff. most dont even notice the cypres(kinda scary huh?)have fun on your trip!Blue Skies!Mary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #3 April 30, 2002 Same trip only a month later Cinci security nailed me and it was intersting... rig got wiped for explosives, hand patted the rig the whole deal. Took 20 minutes to clear security. Coming back though Houston I just walked right through with my rig and my laptop that had a second cypres in the bag. Cinci was freaked while Houston was'nt even watching the monitor.... Cinci was even looking at the closing pin necklace a bit weird. On the trip home I went from the DZ to the airport and walked on with a t-shirt, the rig and the second cypres and never even had to flash the cypres card....Its all hit or miss I think.....If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 779 #4 April 30, 2002 One thing I am wondering about is if they ask how the Cypres works. As I understand it, there is an explosive reaction that propels the cutter through the closing loop, and 'explosive' probably isn't the best word to use at an airport security counter. I think I'll have somebody come to the airport with me, and if my rig doesn't ride with me, it stays in Calgary.'That's one case of beer I was more than glad to buy'Roger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #5 April 30, 2002 just found this on rec.skydiving, list of banned items from Feb 2002.http://www.dfwairport.com/misc/pdf/banned_items.pdfParachutes - without cartridge: Permitted Items (once properly inspected to ensure they do not conceal a prohibited item) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jessica 0 #6 April 30, 2002 This might work better.Taking nominations for new screen name. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #7 April 30, 2002 Just explain that it detects if you are going to low at to fast of a speed and it automatically opens your reserve. If they ask for more details, don't use the word explosive, cartridge, cutter, razor blade or any of the specifics. Just say it releases the closing loop. Dont explain how it works, just what it does. If they ask for more details.... I don't know.If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cornholio 0 #8 April 30, 2002 I had some questions about this too. I am going back east in a few weeks, although I am not taking my rig, but I am sure I will the next time.What about putting the rig in something. Someone mentioned walking through security with a t-shirt, rig, etc... Was the rig in a carry-on suitcase or was it slung overy your shoulder ? Would you pack your rig in a suitcase and have it checked ? What if they wanted to open it ?? Would you ask them to pay for your repacking fee ?? I got lots of questions on this topic...__________________________________________If first you don't succeed....skydiving is not for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #9 April 30, 2002 QuoteWould you pack your rig in a suitcase and have it checked Hell no! They'd loose it, carryon only.QuoteWhat if they wanted to open it ?? NO! The reserve is packed by a FAA certified rigger, FAA, as in one of their guys, there is no reason you should have to open it, unless of course your rigger packed a gun in there or something...A human cannonball, I rise above it allUp higher then a trapeze, I can fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jessica 0 #10 April 30, 2002 I've checked mine before. It was fine. I'll probably carry it on in the future though. Haha...once I had all my weights in the gear bag, and when I picked it up off the conveyer belt there was a huge tag on it that said "HEAVY."Taking nominations for new screen name. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #11 April 30, 2002 Do not call the Cypress an explosive or pyrotechnic device. Just explain how it works saying it opens your reserve is you go too low.Do say (if they ask) that its not a compressed air or CO2 cartridgeRemsterMuff 914 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emma 0 #12 April 30, 2002 My bf and I both carried our rigs through NY airport and also LA, over Xmas. This was fairly close behind September 11th so we though they might be fairly paranoid, however we got through with very little trouble. We both have Cypreses but no-one detected them. My rig got pulled up in NY and the girl asked me to 'Open this bag ma'am'...I told her it wasn't a bag, it was a parachute, and this obviously presented her with too much trouble ( ie it required some amount of brain power and initiative to deal with) so, after some lower-lip biting and brow-furrowing, we got waived through anyway....The most hassle I got was for having mud on my booties...They thought I might give the whole of the USA mad cow disease or something....I'd advise you to just play dumb and for God's sake don't mention the Cypres....There aren't many brain cells going around at customs, so rationalising with someone what it actually IS will probably end in tears.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #13 April 30, 2002 QuoteThey thought I might give the whole of the USA mad cow disease or something....and they still let YOU through?????? geeezzz.....RemsterMuff 914 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emma 0 #14 April 30, 2002 Ha ha ha.....you're starting to sound like Ladyboy-Skreamer. Ew. Icky. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #15 April 30, 2002 Sorry Emma.... it just was too easy.... couldnt resist!So r u gonna come to langar next weekend and do real skydiving? RemsterMuff 914 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emma 0 #16 April 30, 2002 Why what's up at Langar next weekend? Is it the boogie? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #17 April 30, 2002 yep..... starts saturday.RemsterMuff 914 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbunky 3 #18 April 30, 2002 i don't jump in stewiake, but close! drop by skydive moncton if you get a chance. we start flying may 11.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~bunkyget crazy, before it gets you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #19 April 30, 2002 Having the rig in a gear bag is a MUST. I treid to be as low profile as possible in Cinc (jacket, shorts, NOTHING that said I was a Skydiver) and I still got nailed. I was on a 7:15 am flight so no one was in a line at security. On my return I was running a bit late to get to security and just walked through. Try to time walking up to the gate to avoid the "Random" searches. Nothing would suck worse then having to undergo a second security stop there too.I know a lot of people have good luck checking their rig in a hard shell case for transport. If you decide to carry it on, it MUST go in a gear bag (I like my Square1 Deluxe Gear bag ) to avoid freaking others on the plane. You might also want to tie a pull up cord arond the reserve ripcord to avoid accidently having it snaged on/by something. I had to explain that the reserve was packed by an FAA official and as soon as I said that, they lost intrest in the reserve and got interested in the 3 rings. It seem like large chunks of metal made the MP watching nervious. As long as you calmly explain and answer any questions and treat the like HARDCORE WHUFFOS then you should have no problem if stoped. Have patience and your rig will be just fine as a carry on.If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ADRNALN 0 #20 April 30, 2002 I just got back from flying out to San Fran from Chicago and was not even slowed down by security regarding my rig. My carry on was just my rig and helmet in a gear bag. Bring your Cypres card just in case you run into a newbie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 36 #21 April 30, 2002 Here's a link that is probably worth carrying a copy with you.http://www.pia.com/SSK/cypres/dot_pr_082500.pdfSouthwest used to ban Cypreses until this ruling. I don't know if they have changed their policy yet.The "without cartridge" listed on the permitted list I believe refers to a CO2 or other compressed gas cartridge, probably refering to a life vest. Heed the advice above, don't call it an explosive, it opens the reserve, release the loop, I don't know. Remember to remove any hook knives. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeffGordon 0 #22 April 30, 2002 I flew from Charleston to austin and carried my rig in an overnight bag. I also had a laptop. They just xrayed the rig but it took about 20 minutes to get the laptop through. They didn't even complain about the hook knife on the leg strap. (Wouldn't that show up as a big razor blade on xray?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #23 April 30, 2002 It should and you shouldn't try to carry that through. You should put it in any checked luggage you have. If they take it they have the right.Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #24 April 30, 2002 Yeah, you could take over an entire aircraft with a hook knife...You know, a couple years ago when I flew to DC from Dallas, I had my Spyderco Endura (combat folder, 3.5" full serrated blade) in my pocket, no body said a word to me, not even when I went to the different monuments (metal detectors, guards, etc), until we went into the FBI building and all they said is that I might not want to carry that, since its over DC's limit. *shrug* I guess when you pay low wages, you get low wage workers, huh?A human cannonball, I rise above it allUp higher then a trapeze, I can fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
