G5fh84 0 #1 September 16, 2003 My mom finally came out to see me jump this weekend, I guess after a year of asking her she finaly decided I must know what I'm doing but she couldn't see me in the air until I was under canopy and even then had a hard time figuring out which chute was mine so I want to jump with smoke but the DZO say's that it will ruin my gear with the dye?? Does it?? can it be cleaned?? Is there a good brand of smoke that won't ruin my gear? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueEyedMonster 0 #2 September 16, 2003 That, and I hear that the pilot just loves it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #3 September 16, 2003 you will get dye on the leg of your jumpsuit, and its hard to get rid of it. be aware of where your feet are when you dump the rig, because if the pilot chute hits the smoke bomb, it will melt the PC and you'll have a dandy malfunction. If its only for one jump, take a bag of flour, and open the top and as you are in freefall, shake it gfently....it gives a nice white trail against a blue sky, and easy to see...no damage to anything. Bill Cole D-41 be sure to get a small bag.....about 1 or 2 lbs most. ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kansasskydiver 0 #4 September 16, 2003 I've jumped smoke before and it didn't do anything to my suit or gear. Just have to be aware of it sticking off your leg and be sure you're stable in freefall. I wouldn't advise sit flying or anything like that with it, but belly to earth with the right type of holster, i don't see a problem with<--- See look, pink dolphins DO exist! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #5 September 16, 2003 Just take her up for a closer view! Ok, my mom wouldnt jump for a billion dollars either. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #6 September 16, 2003 another way in which you can manage it, is to WIRE the smoke bomb to a stick about 12 inches long, and that way you are holding it away from your face, suit, and gear. Remember to hold it ( or the flour) in the hand you dont use to activate your main. The flour is the best for a one shot jump deal. Fly base and let other come to you. I had one guy fly through the flour and he ate an unbaked cake for about 60 minutes. It really was funny to see. Dont shake the flour too hard or have too large an opening in the top of the bag....you'll lose it all at once. You'll find it works great with a clear blue sky. I've worn smoke bombs on many boot brackets, and you WILL NEVER get it out of your jumpsuit or off your footwear. Bill Cole D-41 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airann 1 #7 September 16, 2003 Red smoke stains, for sure. If you jump smoke you have got to have a certain bracket. This bracket cures the most problems that smoke causes. Flour is the best damn idea seriously, I did not think of that. I think I may do that just for fun. You can color flour. A person here colored the flour different colors. Then made them up in bags for bombs to be used in a bomb contest. (closest to target wins) I have NO idea how this was done. I have NO idea how it will show up in the sky. I like the idea alot, however. Maybe in this instance is where you should use red. Over the years, I believe red is best color against any background. (for suits that is) Defiantly flour for this jump, is my vote. Yep, flour. ps. Everyone I know here has the same bracket. It has been a real long time since I knew of someone getting this design of bracket. So I dont remember the process. (But I could find out.) ~AirAnn~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #8 September 16, 2003 Smoke stains! It's real hard to get off your jumpsuit... but will somewhat wash off Z-po material... just takes a LOT of time and effort. I agree with Chuteless on the flour...to an extent, As with wiring a smoke to a stick..... not a good idea for a relatively inexperienced jumper.... there may be a something comes about causing you to drop / let go of a stick n' smoke... Cut a 2 inch hole in the bottom corner of a 2 lb. flour bag.... put some masking tape over the hole, then tape the whole bag to your lower outside leg... as you exit rip off the tape covering the hole and that will usually work well. If it's under canopy you want to distinguish yourself, get a couple of those Cray paper 2.5in by 100 foot party rolls.... when you open tie one end to your harness and drop the roll(s) behind you.... A beautiful streamer will wave behind you, and if it should get caught on anything it will just tear right off. Hot smoke will not only 'melt' a section of the pilot chute ... but the bracket may snag it, causing a horseshoe... or an upside-down streamer should you elect to cut away. Don't jump any kind of extra stuff unless you have been thoroughly trained by someone that has plenty of experience on that type of gear... DON'T DROP ANYTHING ON ANYONE! And.... I hate to be a Killjoy, ...BUT Thanks to the "Homeland Security Act" As of July this year, it's now a Federal offense to... Store...Transport...or Use any type of pyrotechnic devise in the classification that most (M18) smoke bombs skydivers use, without a Federal pyro license. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #9 September 16, 2003 if the pilot chute melts at all, you are stuck with it. There has been many deaths "in the old days" when pilot chutes melted to the boot bracket and the guy couldnt get rid of the main. I assure you, its a deadly scenario. As for the flour, you cant control the amount that comes out if it on your foot, and its usually all at once in a big cloud. Partially opening the top, you can gently shake it, and even keep a finger over the part of the flap, and you can control it to a nice even trail An experienced jumoper should be able to hang on to a stick with an M 18, but not a novice. I have seen large grass fires caused by droppage. One just has to remember to keep it in the hand not used for deployment .. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wlie 0 #10 September 16, 2003 Freefly tube dude!My other ride is the relative wind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #11 September 16, 2003 With 150 jumps I would say you don't need a hot smoke canister strapped to your leg. Try this: Bring Mom to the DZ, make sure she has good sunglasses, get a low pass and do a hop n pop. You will be the only jumper in the sky, the plane will be lower at exit altitude, and she'll have no problem picking you out. For exrta insurance, have an experienced jumper stand next to her and help her to spot the plane before you leave, and give a play by play during your canopy ride. Safe. Simple. Smoke free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wlie 0 #12 September 16, 2003 Quote150 jumps My other ride is the relative wind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tailwheel 0 #13 September 17, 2003 How about doing a hop and pop with flour. Most people who come out to watch tandems at the DZ can't spot a plane at 10 grand, plus you should save some $ for jumping at lower altitude. That helps pay for the flour. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 3 #14 September 18, 2003 QuoteThanks to the "Homeland Security Act" As of July this year, it's now a Federal offense to... Store...Transport...or Use any type of pyrotechnic devise in the classification that most (M18) smoke bombs skydivers use, without a Federal pyro license. Boy, I wish I hadn't heard that.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mjosparky 3 #15 September 18, 2003 Jumping smoke, banners, flags and other shit is a stunt. If you are not getting paid to do it, don't. jmhoMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 6 #16 September 18, 2003 QuoteQuoteThanks to the "Homeland Security Act" As of July this year, it's now a Federal offense to... Store...Transport...or Use any type of pyrotechnic devise in the classification that most (M18) smoke bombs skydivers use, without a Federal pyro license. Boy, I wish I hadn't heard that. *** I can get you a copy of the paperwork if you're interested in getting the license Sparky... I think it's about 350 bucks and a test.... and a background check.... Mine went pretty quick since I once held a security clearance, and had to do the whole FBI thing when we adopted the kids from Russia... just don't tell them about that sheep thing! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 6 #17 September 18, 2003 QuoteQuote150 jumps *** Ahh Hemmm! That's 151 ! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jdog 0 #18 September 18, 2003 Quote Jumping smoke, banners, flags and other shit is a stunt. If you are not getting paid to do it, don't. jmho Hook turns are stunts, if you are not getting paid to do it, don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 6 #19 September 18, 2003 QuoteQuote Jumping smoke, banners, flags and other shit is a stunt. If you are not getting paid to do it, don't. jmho Hook turns are stunts, if you are not getting paid to do it, don't. *** MAKE A SKYDIVE.... GET A CHECK!!! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites G5fh84 0 #20 October 21, 2003 One year in now as of this weekend 168 jumps.... I'm going to try that flour idea this next weekend and since I jumped a 7 cell 210sf with no problem I'm also going to finally jump that 190 triathon........but not on the same jump Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites suz 0 #21 October 21, 2003 Just go for the super cheap option..just tie a streamer to your leg Don't bother me, I'm living happily ever after Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Tonto 1 #22 October 21, 2003 It will ruin your gear. I will only jump smoke on sponsored gear. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites abyumper 0 #23 October 21, 2003 use a 2 pound bag of flour and dont open it too much, a gentle shake during freefall will give a nice trail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
mjosparky 3 #15 September 18, 2003 Jumping smoke, banners, flags and other shit is a stunt. If you are not getting paid to do it, don't. jmhoMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #16 September 18, 2003 QuoteQuoteThanks to the "Homeland Security Act" As of July this year, it's now a Federal offense to... Store...Transport...or Use any type of pyrotechnic devise in the classification that most (M18) smoke bombs skydivers use, without a Federal pyro license. Boy, I wish I hadn't heard that. *** I can get you a copy of the paperwork if you're interested in getting the license Sparky... I think it's about 350 bucks and a test.... and a background check.... Mine went pretty quick since I once held a security clearance, and had to do the whole FBI thing when we adopted the kids from Russia... just don't tell them about that sheep thing! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 6 #17 September 18, 2003 QuoteQuote150 jumps *** Ahh Hemmm! That's 151 ! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jdog 0 #18 September 18, 2003 Quote Jumping smoke, banners, flags and other shit is a stunt. If you are not getting paid to do it, don't. jmho Hook turns are stunts, if you are not getting paid to do it, don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 6 #19 September 18, 2003 QuoteQuote Jumping smoke, banners, flags and other shit is a stunt. If you are not getting paid to do it, don't. jmho Hook turns are stunts, if you are not getting paid to do it, don't. *** MAKE A SKYDIVE.... GET A CHECK!!! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites G5fh84 0 #20 October 21, 2003 One year in now as of this weekend 168 jumps.... I'm going to try that flour idea this next weekend and since I jumped a 7 cell 210sf with no problem I'm also going to finally jump that 190 triathon........but not on the same jump Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites suz 0 #21 October 21, 2003 Just go for the super cheap option..just tie a streamer to your leg Don't bother me, I'm living happily ever after Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Tonto 1 #22 October 21, 2003 It will ruin your gear. I will only jump smoke on sponsored gear. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites abyumper 0 #23 October 21, 2003 use a 2 pound bag of flour and dont open it too much, a gentle shake during freefall will give a nice trail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
airtwardo 6 #17 September 18, 2003 QuoteQuote150 jumps *** Ahh Hemmm! That's 151 ! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdog 0 #18 September 18, 2003 Quote Jumping smoke, banners, flags and other shit is a stunt. If you are not getting paid to do it, don't. jmho Hook turns are stunts, if you are not getting paid to do it, don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #19 September 18, 2003 QuoteQuote Jumping smoke, banners, flags and other shit is a stunt. If you are not getting paid to do it, don't. jmho Hook turns are stunts, if you are not getting paid to do it, don't. *** MAKE A SKYDIVE.... GET A CHECK!!! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G5fh84 0 #20 October 21, 2003 One year in now as of this weekend 168 jumps.... I'm going to try that flour idea this next weekend and since I jumped a 7 cell 210sf with no problem I'm also going to finally jump that 190 triathon........but not on the same jump Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites suz 0 #21 October 21, 2003 Just go for the super cheap option..just tie a streamer to your leg Don't bother me, I'm living happily ever after Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Tonto 1 #22 October 21, 2003 It will ruin your gear. I will only jump smoke on sponsored gear. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites abyumper 0 #23 October 21, 2003 use a 2 pound bag of flour and dont open it too much, a gentle shake during freefall will give a nice trail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
suz 0 #21 October 21, 2003 Just go for the super cheap option..just tie a streamer to your leg Don't bother me, I'm living happily ever after Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #22 October 21, 2003 It will ruin your gear. I will only jump smoke on sponsored gear. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abyumper 0 #23 October 21, 2003 use a 2 pound bag of flour and dont open it too much, a gentle shake during freefall will give a nice trail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
