lawrocket 3 #1 January 9, 2004 Libertarians, unite! Brings back memories of the folks in Massachusetts registering their cars in N.H. because of the car taxes. Wouldn't this be interesting? Chances of it actually occurring are mighty slim, though, considering cities are incorprated under state laws, and I can't see one state ceding land to another. LINK ----------------------------------------- KILLINGTON, Vt. - Officials in the popular ski resort area of Killington want the town to secede from Vermont and join neighboring New Hampshire in a dispute over taxes. They say the town's restaurants, inns and other businesses send $10 million a year to the state capital in sales, room and meal taxes, but the state returns just $1 million in state aid to Killington. Even more galling to the town is a statewide property tax imposed in 1997 to fund schools. The town of 1,092 won a Superior Court order that called the state's method of assessing local properties "arbitrary and capricious," but the state Supreme Court reversed that decision. "It kind of reminds us of Colonial days," Town Manager David Lewis said Thursday. "The Colonies were being faced with the Stamp Act, the Tea Act, the Sugar Act. England wasn't giving them any rights. They were treating the Colonies as just a revenue source." New Hampshire, just 25 miles east, has no income tax or sales tax. Killington's Select Board wants to put the secession idea before voters on Town Meeting Day in March. Secretary of State Deborah Markowitz said Killington has little chance of secession "absent an armed insurrection type of thing. ... A town is a construction of the state and exists at the pleasure of the Legislature." New Hampshire Deputy Secretary of State David Scanlan said he would be flattered if Vermont wanted to join New Hampshire — but he's not making any promises. In Killington, not everyone likes the idea. "I love having a Vermont address. I'm proud of it. It's a cool place to live," said resident Steven Kelly. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #2 January 9, 2004 If idiot-boy Dean was my governor, I would want to secede as well.Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallRate 0 #3 January 10, 2004 Residents in Toledo wanted to succeed to Michigan a few years back. I don't anyone outside Toledo really cared all that much. FallRate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpinfarmer 0 #4 January 10, 2004 Here you have one of the most liberal states right next to one of the most conservative states. When people think of Vermont they think they are all liberal nature loving tree huggers. I'm suprised that they are not. I hope that they can secede. It would send a message to government that you can't just keep taxing the life out of people and expect them to take it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #5 January 10, 2004 QuoteSecretary of State Deborah Markowitz said Killington has little chance of secession "absent an armed insurrection type of thing. ... A town is a construction of the state and exists at the pleasure of the Legislature." I really think that depends on a state's constitution doesn't it? Either way, the state of Vermont probably didn't spend a dime building Killington. ... Go for it Killington!!So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #6 January 10, 2004 I support Killington 100% on this and I hope West Dover (home of Mount Snow) will follow suit. This is all the fault of the wonderful Governor Howard Dean, presently running for President. Act 60 is a disaster for the citizens of Vermont, but Dean did not give a shit. The majority did not want this law, but he had the legislature to pass it and he did. And guess where Dean moved to after leaving the statehouse...New Hampshire! Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #7 January 10, 2004 QuoteI support Killington 100% on this and I hope West Dover (home of Mount Snow) will follow suit. This is all the fault of the wonderful Governor Howard Dean, presently running for President. Act 60 is a disaster for the citizens of Vermont, but Dean did not give a shit. The majority did not want this law, but he had the legislature to pass it and he did. And guess where Dean moved to after leaving the statehouse...New Hampshire! Chris Dude...I used to live in West Dover. Valley View Road to be exact. Unfortunately West Dover is a bit too far inland, and the folks from Brattleboro would storm the gates (they're super-lovey-liberals)! So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #8 January 10, 2004 Quotethey're super-lovey-liberals)! That's wonderful! - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #9 January 11, 2004 QuoteDude...I used to live in West Dover. Valley View Road to be exact. Unfortunately West Dover is a bit too far inland, and the folks from Brattleboro would storm the gates (they're super-lovey-liberals) I know you did. We talked about this once. And you're right about Brattleboro...Bunch of tree hugging, granola crunching, ugly mutha-fuckers. I mean it. I worked in Brattleboro for 5 years and I don't think I ever saw an attractive person once...except for me ofcourse. Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #10 January 11, 2004 I grew up farther North in Cabot, far from the commercialized ski community of Killington. The town used to be Sherburne, if I'm not mistaken, before there was a vote to change it to match the name of the ski area. Maybe Muenkel and Gawain can confirm this for me. To me, the big commercial ski havens of Killington and Stowe were never truly Vermont. I will remember it fondly as I knew the place, the people, and the way we lived. It has changed in many ways since I left 20 years ago, enough to precipitate my parents' moving and to make me never want to live there again. As far as secession goes, good old Vermont cartoonist Jeff Danziger published a book about the state of Vermont seceding from the union a few years back.Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 561 #11 January 11, 2004 Killington politics sound much like Quebec politics. Both threaten to sucede from the union as ploys to get better roads, sewers, etc. Now that Quebec has made the rest of the country officially bilingual and gotten the lion's hare of federal gov't contracts, they have no need to sucede. As for this official bilingualism foolishness ... French is useless in most Vancouver neighborhoods. Punjabi, or Cantonese or Hindi or Mandarin are far more useful languages. If the Vermont statehouse just allocates more tax dollars to roads and sewers near Killinton, they will stop whining about suceding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #12 January 11, 2004 QuoteI grew up farther North in Cabot, far from the commercialized ski community of Killington. The town used to be Sherburne, if I'm not mistaken, before there was a vote to change it to match the name of the ski area. Maybe Muenkel and Gawain can confirm this for me. You are correct. It was Sherburne. Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FliegendeWolf 0 #13 January 12, 2004 QuoteIf idiot-boy Dean was my governor, I would want to secede as well. This must be an example of that left-wing vitriol I hear so many complaints about. A One that Isn't Cold is Scarcely a One at All Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites