cvfd1399 0 #1 February 2, 2004 Isn't it disgraceful to cut a hole in and wear a real flag? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkySlut 0 #2 February 2, 2004 he was wearing it backwards wasnt he??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainbo 0 #3 February 2, 2004 Not only that I think it is illegal, but I could be wrong... wouldn't be the first time. RainboRainbo TheSpeedTriple - Speed is everything "Blessed are those who can give without remembering, and take without forgetting." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeffD 0 #4 February 2, 2004 how about cutting a hole in it for his head?!? Half the people will find it "cool" and feel like he's supporting america but he is just disgracing the flag. *edit* no its not illegal. You can do anything you want to to an american flag (freedom of speech) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkySlut 0 #5 February 2, 2004 exept burning it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #6 February 2, 2004 That was one of the most disgraceful things I've seen done to our flag by a well placed citizen in public, in a very long time. I may be young, but damnit, that pisses me off!--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeffD 0 #7 February 2, 2004 I'm pretty sure burning it is also not illegal. Isn't burning a flag a proper way to retire a tatterd flag? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainbo 0 #8 February 2, 2004 Yeah your right. I slipped back to my old boy scout days for a minute. Always learned that you could wear patches and pins, but to use a actual flag as dress wear was "unpatriotic". I think that would reflect my general feeling also. RainboRainbo TheSpeedTriple - Speed is everything "Blessed are those who can give without remembering, and take without forgetting." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeffD 0 #9 February 2, 2004 I stand corrected. http://www.esquilax.com/flag/faq.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkySlut 0 #10 February 2, 2004 Quotewell placed citizen Kid Rock, although, I owne his discs...I would not call him a "well place citizen" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #11 February 2, 2004 Pretty sure that web site is NOT the definitive word on the subject.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #12 February 2, 2004 Yup, the actule Flag Code is here: http://www.usflag.org/us.code36.html Quote§176. Respect for flag No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor. (a) The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property. (b) The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise. (c) The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free. (d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general. (e) The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way. (f) The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling. (g) The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature. (h) The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything. (i) The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown. (j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart. (k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning. --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #13 February 2, 2004 Well placed was the wrong word. I should have said famous, someone that kids/teens may look up to.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #14 February 2, 2004 It was probably a shirt custom made. Who knows. Just another topic for people to complain about. I think we have enough of these on the boards as it is. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainbo 0 #15 February 2, 2004 Thanks for verifying some of that information I have floating around in the ole gray matter. RainboRainbo TheSpeedTriple - Speed is everything "Blessed are those who can give without remembering, and take without forgetting." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gary350 0 #16 February 2, 2004 QuoteIsn't it disgraceful to cut a hole in and wear a real flag? Doesn't seem like it could be illegal, but I don't know. Disrespectful? Disgraceful? I guess that's in the eye of the beholder - seems like it to me, but I value the 1st amendment more than a piece of cloth. At least Kid Rock is just an entertainer - hardly expected to know all the ins and outs of the US Code. For instance: The US Code, Title 4, Chapter 1, Sec. 8, under the heading "respect for flag," states: "The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature." But you would think someone in government would know the basics of the code, unlike the dipshit in the attached photo. Gee, who is that??? Yup - it's the president himself. . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #17 February 2, 2004 QuoteIt was probably a shirt custom made So? Read the flag code, then you'll see that that is still quite disrespectful. *shrug* I guess I take great pride in my country and my country's flag. That flag has been to hell and back and is still here due to thousands of men's blood. That is what the flag is to me.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #18 February 2, 2004 Opinons, opinions, opinions. Everyone has one. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gary350 0 #19 February 2, 2004 QuoteThat was one of the most disgraceful things I've seen done to our flag by a well placed citizen in public, in a very long time. I may be young, but damnit, that pisses me off! Is George W Bush well placed enough for you? (see photo in previous post) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #20 February 2, 2004 QuoteIt was probably a shirt custom made. I looked an awful lot like a normal flag with a hole cut out of the middle, making a poncho type thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #21 February 2, 2004 Not real sure what it was. We'll see. Sure it will be posted soon somewhere. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainbo 0 #22 February 2, 2004 Was not a custom shirt (my opinion) as you could see where it was cut for his head to go through. You could also see the grommets in the webbing. And I believe in this particular forum the discussion is open to whatever topic we like. If you don't like don't read it and end up feeling troubled by it. RainboRainbo TheSpeedTriple - Speed is everything "Blessed are those who can give without remembering, and take without forgetting." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkySlut 0 #23 February 2, 2004 I think that Kid Rock is a typical redneck patriot, but...anyone think that he was making a point??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeffD 0 #24 February 2, 2004 (curiosity) what point? I think he just thought it would be cool to wear a flag. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #25 February 2, 2004 QuoteIs George W Bush well placed enough for you? (see photo in previous post) I never said he was the brightest or the best, he is just better then the rest that ran last time and that are running this time. Everyone fucks up, notice I was calling Kid Rock any names or anything along those lines. I didn't agree with his act, but I don't know him, never met him, couldn't say anything about him.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites