networking question --part 2

[wingnut 0]

okay so some of you saw my other post about my networking problem.. wll i went ahead and got a broadband router/wifi acces point and a wifi card for my laptop i am now having trouble trying to get acces to the files on my desktop... can access the files on the laptop from my desktop but not my dsktop files on the laptop... got the hard drive i want shared out and all and have permisons set to everybody.. should be working but it says i ndon't have the proper log on.. i'm using windows 2000 pro..... any one want to give some dvice... i tapped out phreezone on ideas.....


p.s. i might just cancle my dsl here... got two nice fast conections i was stealling bandwith from erlier from the laptop.. wonder how long it would take em to know i was using thier bandwith and start using encription on the router.....

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[shmali 0]

not quite sure with 2000 but in xp it's not just setting permission to everyone etc but you also have to set it up under the security tab. (see picture)

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[BlueEyedMonster 0]

Yeah that's real brilliant... on a wireless connection give EVERYONE read/write access to your files.

[Kennedy 0]

When one of my best buds moved to NYC, he gave up paying for anything computer related. He got all the best hardware as "throw aways" from work, all the software you really need is free one place or another, and WiFi is everywhere in that city.

Plus now I think they're going to hook him up with the cost of using his mobile as a modem when there's no WiFi signal. God that guy is spoiled.


ps - I have no idea what the answer to your question is. sorry.

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besides, if the WiFi is not encrypted, then they obviously want to share it with everyone. why use a dirty word like "stealing?"

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[BlueEyedMonster 0]

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besides, if the WiFi is not encrypted, then they obviously want to share it with everyone. why use a dirty word like "stealing?"

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[Kennedy 0]

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Music is not the worry... it would be some sicko like me sitting in front of your house/apt and setting my favorite gay porn selections to play on your computer as it starts up.

What the hell does any of that have to do with not protecting your bandwidth. That's a little different than allowing everyone read/write access to your entire system.

And if you look back more closely at the post jpeg, you'll notice "write" was not one of the selected boxes.

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[BlueEyedMonster 0]

Crap you're right. I missed the write part. But you should still not allow "EVERYONE" rights to anything on your system, and the Guest account should be disabled.

You don't know what that guy (some of my co-workers) are going to do with the decryption software and the hacking tools driving around screwing with computers on WiFi connections.

Personally I know WiFi is not safe... My network will stay cat5 behind a firewall for a while.

[Kennedy 0]

Most people are still using 8 02 11b which has an unsecured handshake when the connection is established. English translation - that means anyone paying attention when you turn on the computer has access to everything on the network.

and I go with Cat5e. much better than cat5.

ps - your "coworkers" would be committing felonies and federal offenses, so you might want to tell "them" not to do that.

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[Chiquita 12]

These may be things that you have already done, but they are somethings that I thought of. For one, is the file system is the same on both. ie. Fat32 or NTFS. NTFS can access FAT32, but FAT32 cannot acces NTFS. I believe that FAT32 would not even see the NTFS file system, but I am not 100% sure. Also, are they in the same workgroup or domain. And, is the folder shared (look under folder properties and sharing tab). If I can think of anything else I will let you know.

Also, here are a some help pages (I had some more that were really good, but lost them when I reformatted my hard drive and forgot to save my links):
www.annoyances.org
www.onecomputerguy.com
www.winguides.com
www.labmice.net has a link to Windows 2000 Professional resource kit which is a book I have used a few times and has been helpful

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[Kennedy 0]

www.annoyances.org
www.onecomputerguy.com
www.winguides.com
www.labmice.net

you just put (url) before the link and (/url) after the link, but use [brackets] instead of parenthesis.

next time you post, check out the get markup help link

or do it now, I edited it in

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[Chiquita 12]

Cool, thanks. I had just put it at the end. I had thought about putting it at both ends but I am starting to get tired so I am not think all that great at the moment. Also, was going to look at markup help, but kind of figured if he really wanted to look at the websites it wouldn't matter, but now that I know how I will go back and edit it.

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[Kennedy 0]

ha sooooooo, glasshoppa, vewy wewl done

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[wingnut 0]

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These may be things that you have already done, but they are somethings that I thought of. For one, is the file system is the same on both. ie. Fat32 or NTFS. NTFS can access FAT32, but FAT32 cannot acces NTFS. I believe that FAT32 would not even see the NTFS file system, but I am not 100% sure. Also, are they in the same workgroup or domain. And, is the folder shared (look under folder properties and sharing tab). If I can think of anything else I will let you know.

and yup, both computers are ntfs and the folder/drives are shared..... gona give bem a call tommorow and see if he can help me out....

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[Markj 0]

You can connect to the other pc by making an administrative connection to it. Lets say you have 2 computers, computer A and computer B. If you want to browse the files on computer B then from computer A, open up a command prompt and type in the following command:

net use \\B\ipc$ /u:username password

B being the name of the other pc. For the username and password you must use the administrator details for the remote machine. If you reboot you will need type the command again.


hope that helps..

M.J

[ryoder 1,384]

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Most people are still using 8 02 11b which has an unsecured handshake when the connection is established. English translation - that means anyone paying attention when you turn on the computer has access to everything on the network.

BZZZT! "802.11b" tells you what frequency and modulation is in use. It tells you nothing about authentication or encryption. There is a wide menu of authentication and encryption protocols that can be used with all WLANs. The clear-text password you are describing is "Shared Key" authentication which is pointless to use. It is better to configure "Open" authentication and enable WEP.

WEP can still be cracked if the attacker is patient enough to collect a few Gig of your traffic. There are lots of better authentication and encryption protocols, but they can be complicated to configure:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/wireless/airo_350/accsspts/s12213ja/s12213sc/index.htm

Other measures are:

- Put WLAN on a separate VLAN seprated from the rest of your nets by a fw.

- Turn off broadcasting of the SSID.

- Don't use DHCP on your WLAN; Use static IPs.

- Enable MAC address filtering on your AP.

- Turn down the power of your AP. I have mine turned down from 100mw to 1mw, and I can still use the laptop anywhere in the house.

- The bloody obvious: ALWAYS change the default passwords and SSID's in the AP.

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[SkydiveMonkey 0]

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and I go with Cat5e. much better than cat5.

Not if you want wireless though

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[SkydiveMonkey 0]

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You can connect to the other pc by making an administrative connection to it

It'd be easier just to map a drive to the share and choose the "reconnect at logon" box. Make sure whoever you're connecting as has the relevant permissions on the share.

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[ryoder 1,384]

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Crap you're right. I missed the write part. But you should still not allow "EVERYONE" rights to anything on your system, and the Guest account should be disabled.

You don't know what that guy (some of my co-workers) are going to do with the decryption software and the hacking tools driving around screwing with computers on WiFi connections.

Personally I know WiFi is not safe... My network will stay cat5 behind a firewall for a while.

Blue! You aren't extinct after all!

Funny story: When I first got my AP, I was configuring it, and was having some problem with my stupid DHCP server. As I was fussing with it, my Mac suddenly announced it was connected. Sure enough, it had an IP and I could reach news.yahoo.com. Success at last!...Wait a minute...THAT's not the IP range I configured!

Sure enough, I was connected to the AP of a clueless neighbor about half a block away.

Next morning, I drove around my neighborhood with MacStumbler running on the laptop and found about 15 open AP's. My favorite was the nimrod who had set his SSID to "stay out". Sounds like a challenge to me.

I keep thinking that instead of PAYING for broadband access, I should just put a 30db parabolic dish on a tower in the backyard with a 2-axis rotator. I'll bet I could get all the Internet access I wanted with no monthly charges.

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[wingnut 0]

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It'd be easier just to map a drive to the share and choose the "reconnect at logon" box. Make sure whoever you're connecting as has the relevant permissions on the share.

been trying to do that.... i have prety much gave everyone and thier brother and then thier brothers brother acces to the drive through permisions and it still wants a pasword/ user name..... and i try all i have and it keeps giving me a message that it is not authorized

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[SkydiveMonkey 0]

when adding permissions, did you just type a username, or "pcname\user"? (Pcname being the one you're trying to connect from obviously)

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[wingnut 0]

no didn't try that.. i will though...

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[wingnut 0]

okay i just figured it out... messed with somethingin adminitrator setting on my control panel and it works now.... woohooo thanks everyone for your help.... someday i'll be cool as all you guys..

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