kevin922 0 #1 February 25, 2004 see attached. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
osuskydiver 0 #2 February 25, 2004 HOW CAN THEY DO THAT?!?!?!?! That is just wrong!!! By the time you read this you have already read it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 8 #3 February 25, 2004 I'm flying with my Rig here in about 2 weeks --- The more I see this the more I become Terrorfied....=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
osuskydiver 0 #4 February 25, 2004 Quote I'm flying with my Rig here in about 2 weeks --- The more I see this the more I become Terrorfied.... read the full story on flybirdman.com/tsa gives you soem documentation to print out and have with you when you fly By the time you read this you have already read it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankiebrina 0 #5 February 25, 2004 that's ridiculous!! How stupid can one be to have to cut the pin!!! Its enough that they opened it (U$40,00) they damaged the gear literally. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #6 February 25, 2004 i wonder if they got smacked in the face with the spring I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kramer 0 #7 February 25, 2004 That's incredible. Cool picture that they made there, but it sucks what led up to them making such a picture. I'm traveling with a rig for the first time ever in a few weeks, hope I don't get jipped over like that guy. The FAKE KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 0 #8 February 25, 2004 Where the rig over your shoulders. You don't have to worry about it leaving your sight that way.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #9 February 25, 2004 clicky link to flying birdman Bring your rig as carry-on, don't let it out of your sight, keep it out of everyone else's sight. Have the cypress card showing the x-ray picture and have a letter or printout from the TSA and the airline you're flying saying a rig is ok to carry on. Yes, they can do that.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swoopyswoop 0 #10 February 25, 2004 Hmmmmm seems that a rig is a life saving device and being that a reserve is sealed by an F.A.A rigger doesnt that constitute some form of trouble for TSA? I cant understand what would allow them to do this to a rig much less a reserve. Surely someone has an explanation for this "when I die, I want to go like my grandfather while im sleeping, not like the passengers riding in the car with me Swoopster A.S.S. #6 Future T.S.S holder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #11 February 25, 2004 Regardless of what that idiotic TSA letter says, DO NOT label the outermost bag as "PARACHUTE." Do you really want to draw more attention from those idiots screeners in the red jackets? Keep it by itself and in your sight. Put it in the overhead across the aisle, not over your head. Put it in another bag if you can to avoid a passenger or screener grabbing it by that convenient silver handle.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #12 February 25, 2004 The explenation is that they are not following their own guidelines and are not to be trusted with our gear. Read the story on the site and then read to two links he has on page two. It's an eye opener.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #13 February 25, 2004 You should be concerned. They talk about the possibility of openning the canopy during a search. Um, I guess they haven't bothered to think through how hard it is to close a reserve? And that we're not all FAA riggers?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kramer 0 #14 February 25, 2004 (Hookitt): QuoteWhere the rig over your shoulders. You don't have to worry about it leaving your sight that way. QuoteRegardless of what that idiotic TSA letter says, DO NOT label the outermost bag as "PARACHUTE." Do you really want to draw more attention from those idiots screeners in the red jackets? Keep it by itself and in your sight. Put it in the overhead across the aisle, not over your head. Put it in another bag if you can to avoid a passenger or screener grabbing it by that convenient silver handle. Thanks guy!! I'm sure it'll be alright. If I have a CYPRES with me, that is not in the rig itself, do I need to make sure that it does not get X-rayed? And if so where would you recommend that I put it? Carryon? Check in? Thanks. The FAKE KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #15 February 25, 2004 If you have a cypress in the rig, make sure you have the cypress card. It show what the thing should look like under xray examination. Carrying it on when it's not in the rig might be tricky. They dont tend to like things that have batteries, wires, and small boxes. I would suggest getting a letter from the airline specifically naming your AAD and stating that it is acceptable for transport. Also print out the page from the TSA on parachutes, found HERE.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #16 February 25, 2004 Quote Hmmmmm seems that a rig is a life saving device and being that a reserve is sealed by an F.A.A rigger doesnt that constitute some form of trouble for TSA? I cant understand what would allow them to do this to a rig much less a reserve. Surely someone has an explanation for this Why would they need permission to open a parachute? You don't have to be a rigger to open one, just to repack and seal it. The problem here is they aren't supposed to open it unless the owner is present and they did anyway. Nothing illegal about what they did, but hopefully the TSA person who did it will get at least a reprimand and will know better in the future. Bottom line is this really sucks. Hopefully the owner was able to get it repaired and didn't lose any jump time because of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #17 February 25, 2004 I bet they can't even figure out which screener did it, and I bet they don't care. The only way this goes anywhere is if the red jacket smashed his nose when he openned it and wants his benefits to cover it. Nothing they ever do is illegal, it's all for national security. The owner was involved in a world record attempt and luckily was able to borrow necessary parts. It'd piss me off something royal if I arrived at a boogie and had nothing to jump. That's why I will never check my rig. Ever. Period.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chute 0 #18 February 25, 2004 Did ya at least get to jump. I know not with your gear but did you borrow? Or did TSA ass you out?Bottomless Beers and Blue Skies! * Brother_Brian * D.S.W.F.S.B. #2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee03 0 #19 February 25, 2004 Thousands Standing Around It is quite fortunately, for the idiots that work for the TSA, that breathing is an automatic reflex! Otherwise, they would sufficate, since most of the morons are too stupid to breath! If they open a reserve, or in anyway damage someone's rig, which is personal property, the DAMNED TSA should be made to reimburse the individual! TSA should be branded as exactly what it is, an unconstitutional, illegal, rouge organization that only infringes on the rights of the citizens of this country!-------- To put your life in danger from time to time ... breeds a saneness in dealing with day-to-day trivialities. --Nevil Shute, Slide Rule Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #20 February 25, 2004 I dunno about all that, but my understanding is they are talking about getting him some kind of compensation. That's what his site said at least.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeemax 0 #21 February 25, 2004 Not that i want to be seen as standing up for them as theres no excuse for this, but... I travled through the states recently with my rig. Carry on, in a small carry on suitcase. Each time at security i passed through without even a stopping. they knew what it was in the x ray (except one new girl and it really freaked her , but her pal behind her told her what it was no problems) and just let me go straight through. no problems here Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #22 February 25, 2004 the theme has already been discussed, but that pic is incredible. With a touch of delicious cynism... do TSA open golf balls to see what's inside ?? DUHHHHscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 3 #23 February 25, 2004 QuoteWhere the rig over your shoulders. You don't have to worry about it leaving your sight that way. Thats just what I have done on the last couple of flights I have taken. I have all the paperwork but the rig is out in the open and I carry it on board. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #24 February 25, 2004 hmm... must be some kinda lock... well... I know what to do with locks... chop-chop-chop! *snip* *WHACK* ah my nose! sonuva- hey bob gimme a hand, and bring another roll of that inspection tape Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin922 0 #25 February 25, 2004 QuoteDid ya at least get to jump. I know not with your gear but did you borrow? Or did TSA ass you out? Yeah Scott did, he was able to find a couple of skydivers out of the 300+ that had a spare reserve handle... and he isn't too bitter because evidentally TSA is going to pay for the damage... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
