riggerrob 562 #1 October 22, 2009 Today I replaced the cutters in three Vigils. With the first two, I started them, replaced the old (type 1) cutters with new (type3) cutters and put them back together. Then I shut them off and restarted them to confirm "CUT OK". The third Vigil refused to shut off??? Have any other riggers encountered this problem? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TaylorC 0 #2 October 22, 2009 just get cypress already Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #3 October 22, 2009 what's a tree got to do with that!? “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 136 #4 October 22, 2009 are they the same type of Vigil ?scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 562 #5 October 22, 2009 Quoteare they the same type of Vigil ? ..................................................................... All three are Vigil 1s. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 37 #6 October 22, 2009 Tried pulling the battery to reset its brains? Once the battery is back in test again to see if there are issue..."Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 562 #7 October 22, 2009 yes, I tried dis-connecting the battery - three times - but it was still stuck in the original start-up mode. I left it sitting overnight - without the battery - and will try to restart it this morning. Or - HEAVEN FORBID - I could read the manual! Tee! Hee! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrianM 1 #8 October 22, 2009 Quoteyes, I tried dis-connecting the battery - three times - but it was still stuck in the original start-up mode. Was it stuck part way through the start-up sequence? If so, it is a known problem that sometimes affects Vigils. I've seen them get stuck in the shutdown sequence as well. You need to contact the manufacturer for replacement. If you mean it was stuck in the normal standby mode (i.e. displaying "Pro" or whatever mode it is in), then I have no idea. Could be the same problem but I would only be guessing."It's amazing what you can learn while you're not talking." - Skydivesg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hackish 8 #9 October 22, 2009 I have heard of more than a single vigil suffering wire failure to the head unit. The cutters are all electrically identical. It would be interesting to know if the problem occurred after switching back to the bad type1 cutter. Possibly the wire got tweaked when you opened the unit??? -Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozzy13 0 #10 October 22, 2009 Quotejust get cypress already Why to spend 600 + more and get 8 years less nah I like my vigil :PNever give the gates up and always trust your rears! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petejones45 0 #11 October 23, 2009 Irrelevant, i think the first guy is a rigger by trade that was just repairing customer gear.Look out for the freefly team, Smelly Peppers. Once we get a couple years more experience we will be a force to be reckoned with in the near future! BLUES! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TaylorC 0 #12 October 23, 2009 Quote Irrelevant, i think the first guy is a rigger by trade that was just repairing customer gear. i know the guy irl and was just giving him a hard time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 562 #13 October 23, 2009 Quoteyes, I tried dis-connecting the battery - three times - but it was still stuck on STUDENT. I left it sitting overnight - without the battery - and will try to restart it this morning. Or - HEAVEN FORBID - I could read the manual! Tee! Hee! ................................................................ Solved my own problem. Left it un-batteried over night. When I plugged in the battery, the screen stayed blank. I pushed the appropriate buttons and it did a normal start-up routine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 3 #14 October 23, 2009 Quote Solved my own problem. Left it un-batteried over night. When I plugged in the battery, the screen stayed blank. I pushed the appropriate buttons and it did a normal start-up routine. Run Rob, sounds like a trap to me. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rdutch 0 #15 October 25, 2009 Yeah, and the cool thing about Vigils, is they fire turned on or not, but usallly thats at 2500ft. I wouldnt take a free Vigil. Ray Small and fast what every girl dreams of! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hackish 8 #16 October 26, 2009 QuoteYeah, and the cool thing about Vigils, is they fire turned on or not, but usallly thats at 2500ft. I wouldnt take a free Vigil. I think you're mistaking that incident for a cypress. It was a cypress turned off that fired out the door. Unfortunately their German engineering is so efficient that I can never seem to find any posts about Cypress misfires. DZ.com says this topic was deleted even though the google cache seems to have it. Oh what am i talking about a Cypress never has and never will have any defect or ever misfire... -Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivepete 0 #17 November 6, 2009 The type 3 cutter also seems to have a problem nowhttp://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3721248;search_string=vigil;#3721248 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jurgencamps 0 #18 November 7, 2009 Quote The type 3 cutter also seems to have a problem nowhttp://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3721248;search_string=vigil;#3721248 Do a search and tell me who manufactures the cutters of the Cypres, Vigil, Argus, ... Isn't it "Nobel energetics"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jurgencamps 0 #19 November 9, 2009 QuoteDo a search and tell me who manufactures the cutters of the Cypres, Vigil, Argus, ... Isn't it "Nobel energetics"? Mmm, did a search and found out that the manufacturer of the vigil cutters does not manufactures the cutters of the Cypres and the Argus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites