squink 0 #26 December 21, 2005 Men definitely tip a woman server better! ...the door was open SKYDIVERGIRLS.COM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #27 December 21, 2005 Maybe that's because the waitresses, assuming they'll receive a bad tip, don't treat their female customers as well as they do their male customers. And it does happen- I've waited at a bar with money in my hand more than once while the female bartender ignored me and served men who just walked up. How well am I going to tip then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jasonRose 0 #28 December 21, 2005 QuoteYeah, it's actually only 2 of them . . . all the rest of them know how to ask for seating favors politely. But these two aren't getting ANY favors from me - big parties, no women, etc. They'll figure out not to fuck with me. Just poke them in the eye with your finger.. Edit to add: Have one of your skydiver bro's come to have a meal and sit them in one of those bitches area and fuck with them. ( they asked for it) Some day I will have the best staff in the world!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diversgodown 0 #29 December 21, 2005 Send them my way and I'll Cock slap those bitches and teach'em some respect. ***Glory Favors the Bold*** Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Girlfalldown 0 #30 December 21, 2005 I wish I lived near you. I'd bring a group and have you seat us in one of those girls sections. Oh the fun we would have. There's a smudge on my knife! No water for me. Oh can you get me some water? No no no, bubbly water. I didn't order that! Where's my salad? Yes I did order a salad! This wine is corked. This wine is corked too. What do you mean it's a screwcap? That's not my lipstick on this glass! I said rare, not well done. No tip for you! -------------- (Do not, I repeat DO NOT, take my posts seriously.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #31 December 21, 2005 QuoteSend them my way and I'll Cock slap those bitches and teach'em some respect. Or she could Buy herself a Strap-on and do it herself!! In today’s society.. Lack of a Functioning Penis is no excuse for not Cock Slapping those who are truly in need of a Good Cock Slapping! Kele.. You must do what needs to be done!! Don’t let these girls down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindercles 0 #32 December 21, 2005 QuoteWhy would waiting on a table of women be a pain in the ass ? I don't get it ? Are women in groups harder to please or something ? Quote There's a smudge on my knife! No water for me. Oh can you get me some water? No no no, bubbly water. I didn't order that! Where's my salad? Yes I did order a salad! This wine is corked. This wine is corked too. What do you mean it's a screwcap? That's not my lipstick on this glass! I said rare, not well done. No tip for you! QED Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #33 December 21, 2005 QuoteSo, how should I handle it? The one who asked me not to seat any more women in her section yesterday just didn't get any more tables AT ALL (oops, my bad ), and one who said "seat me there and I'll kick your ass" got sat "there" immediately. Think that's good enough, or should I be more aggressive-aggressive, rather than passive-aggressive? That's perfect! Oh, then I'd go slash their tires, but that's just me.... ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmpnkramer 0 #34 December 21, 2005 Probably a figment of one's imagination. Certain people think it is all about them. General comments throw their whole sync out of wack. It must suck to be uptight. I understand though how it is when money is tight and jumping is not an option to unravel. Hey Lee never heard the visine trick. Very Interesting. I guess I will have to guard my drink around New Years! Laters, K-MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #35 December 21, 2005 QuoteMen definitely tip a woman server better! it does my head in all this American tipping lark, if you want more money, get a better paid job.. don't expect me to pay over the odds to subsidise your stupidity or lazyness________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cameramonkey 0 #36 December 21, 2005 Quote Why would waiting on a table of women be a pain in the ass ? I don't get it ? Are women in groups harder to please or something ? I dont know how many times I have been out with a group of women that I have had to "take up the slack a bit" on the tip. This is a group of less than 6 usually. they are bitchy, naggy, and as someone also pointed out, demanding. "theres a smudge on my knife, no water, wheres my water. etc." then after being royal bitches, they decide to cheap out and not leave an appropraite tip because they were bitches. And on top of that, I dont know how many times I have had to remind people that kitchen errors shouldnt be taken out on the wait staff. so yes, women are harder to please, and that difficulty grows exponentially for each woman you add to the group. Add a cute, size 0 bubbly blonde waitress in those lycra/polyester stretch pants that all the waitresses seem to wear these days to the mix, and that pretty much guarantees no tip.Two wrongs don't make a right, however three lefts DO! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #37 December 21, 2005 Stereotype much?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diversgodown 0 #38 December 21, 2005 Quote QuoteSend them my way and I'll Cock slap those bitches and teach'em some respect. QuoteOr she could Buy herself a Strap-on and do it herself!! Now that would be a Kodak moment!!!@ In today’s society.. Lack of a Functioning Penis is no excuse for not Cock Slapping those who are truly in need of a Good Cock Slapping! Kele.. You must do what needs to be done!! Don’t let these girls down. ***Glory Favors the Bold*** Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cameramonkey 0 #39 December 21, 2005 its not stereotyping when you witness it firsthand. Especially when you are there to hear the whispers of "she makes me sick..." and other comments of them that show their dislike of the server just because they cant be a petite little thing. You might not do that kind of thing, but there are millions of women out there that do.Two wrongs don't make a right, however three lefts DO! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmpnkramer 0 #40 December 21, 2005 What day are you making it down here? We need to make up for the last visit. Maybe we can go out and be cheap Bastards! .The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 35 #41 December 21, 2005 Maybe it's the type of women you choose to hang out with?She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cameramonkey 0 #42 December 21, 2005 QuoteMaybe it's the type of women you choose to hang out with? in my case, USED to hang out with. the women I hang around now are much more laid back. They make comments about it, but it doesnt seem to effect thier tipping.Two wrongs don't make a right, however three lefts DO! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #43 December 21, 2005 Truthfully, the worst tippers I've ever been to restaurants with have been MALE skydivers who make good money. When we do the 'group dinner at a restaurant' thing on a Saturday night after jumping, we now insist on separate checks because a) I want my server to know I'm NOT the cheapass who left a 7% tip and b) I'm sick of throwing in for people who make more money than me but are too stupid or too cheap to add up their share of the bill, plus tip. And there ar e few who are soooo cheap and so obnoxious, I'll never go to a restaurant with them again even with separate checks! Guilt by association, you know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #44 December 21, 2005 Mr Pink has it right QuoteNICE GUY EDDIE C'mon, throw in a buck. MR. WHITE Uh-uh. I don't tip. NICE GUY EDDIE Whaddaya mean you don't tip? MR. WHITE I don't believe in it. NICE GUY EDDIE You don't believe in tipping? MR. PINK (laughing) I love this kid, he's a madman, this guy. MR. BLONDE Do you have any idea what these ladies make? They make shit. MR. WHITE Don't give me that. She don't make enough money, she can quit. Everybody laughs. NICE GUY EDDIE I don't even know a Jew who'd have the balls to say that. So let's get this straight. You never ever tip? MR. WHITE I don't tip because society says I gotta. I tip when somebody deserves a tip. When somebody really puts forth an effort, they deserve a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, that shit's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doin their job. MR. BLUE Our girl was nice. MR. WHITE Our girl was okay. She didn't do anything special. MR. BLONDE What's something special, take ya in the kitchen and suck your dick? They all laugh. NICE GUY EDDIE I'd go over twelve percent for that. MR. WRITE Look, I ordered coffee. Now we've been here a long fuckin time, and she's only filled my cup three times. When I order coffee, I want it filled six times. MR. BLONDE What if she's too busy? MR. WHITE The words "too busy" shouldn't be in a waitress's vocabulary. NICE GUY EDDIE Excuse me, Mr. White, but the last thing you need is another cup of coffee. They all laugh. MR. WHITE These ladies aren't starvin to death. They make minimum wage. When I worked for minimum wage, I wasn't lucky enough to have a job that society deemed tipworthy. NICE GUY EDDIE Ahh, now we're getting down to it. It's not just that he's a cheap bastard-- MR. ORANGE --It is that too-- NICE GUY EDDIE --It is that too. But it's also he couldn't get a waiter job. You talk like a pissed off dishwasher: "Fuck those cunts and their fucking tips." MR. BLONDE So you don't care that they're counting on your tip to live? Mr. White rubs two of his fingers together. MR. WHITE Do you know what this is? It's the world's smallest violin, playing just for the waitresses. MR. BLONDE You don't have any idea what you're talking about. These people bust their ass. This is a hard job. MR. WHITE So's working at McDonald's, but you don't feel the need to tip them. They're servin ya food, you should tip em. But no, society says tip these guys over here, but not those guys over there. That's bullshit. MR. ORANGE They work harder than the kids at McDonald's. MR. WHITE Oh yeah, I don't see them cleaning fryers. MR. BROWN These people are taxed on the tips they make. When you stiff 'em, you cost them money. MR. BLONDE Waitressing is the number one occupation for female non-college graduates in this country. It's the one jab basically any woman can get, and make a living on. The reason is because of tips. MR. WHITE Fuck all that. They all laugh. MR. WHITE Hey, I'm very sorry that the government taxes their tips. That's fucked up. But that ain't my fault. it would appear that waitresses are just one of the many groups the government fucks in the ass on a regular basis. You show me a paper says the government shouldn't do that, I'll sign it. Put it to a vote, I'll vote for it. But what I won't do is play ball. And this non- college bullshit you're telling me, I got two words for that: "Learn to fuckin type." Cause if you're expecting me to help out with the rent, you're in for a big fuckin surprise. MR. ORANGE He's convinced me. Give me my dollar back. Everybody laughs. Joe's comes back to the table. JOE Okay ramblers, let's get to rambling. Wait a minute, who didn't throw in? MR. ORANGE Mr. White. JOE (to Mr. Orange) Mr. White? (to Mr. White) Why? MR. ORANGE He don't tip. JOE (to Mr. Orange) He don't tip? (to Mr. White) You don't tip? Why? MR. ORANGE He don't believe in it. JOE (to Mr. Orange) He don't believe in it? (to Mr. White) You don't believe in it? MR. ORANGE Nope. JOE (to Mr. Orange) Shut up! (to Mr. White) Cough up the buck, ya cheap bastard, I paid for your goddamn breakfast. MR. WHITE Because you paid for the breakfast, I'm gonna tip. Normally I wouldn't. ________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brierebecca 0 #45 December 21, 2005 Oh Lordy Kel, what restaurant are you working at? I assume you're back home in Atl by now... I'm assuming you're working somewhere nice, and I'm sorry you're getting crap from your servers. It's completely unprofessional for them to tell you how to do your job. That said, not giving them tables at all might be a little vindictive, especially because restaurants are tense and fast-moving places, and people don't always have time to be nice. This is their livelihood we're talking about. Wherever you seat people, you're going to get paid. The waitress you shafted won't. And not seating a server because of a personal vendetta can cause you to lose your job, too. If it were me (and I've been in this situation), next time one of the waitresses is rude to you, I'd smile and ask her to go do her job, and to let you do yours. If your manager is aware of the situation, there's no point in bringing it up again, unless the their conduct escalates. If you do bring it up again, I'd also bring up the sexism you mentioned. I know it's a fact of life, but your manager will be aware of the lawsuits that have arisen from situations like this, and it will get his attention. Hope this helps. Brie"Ive seen you hump air, hump the floor of the plane, and hump legs. You now have a new nickname: "Black Humper of Death"--yardhippie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #46 December 21, 2005 QuoteWhat day are you making it down here? Next Thursday QuoteWe need to make up for the last visit. That all depends on you... Long as you are not.... How did your Girlfriend put it??..."Sorry we cant go out with you, Kramers being a Whiney Ass Bitch..... Again!!". I know this much.. Kele never stood me up on a Strip Club Outing!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnyshrek 0 #47 December 21, 2005 Actually, she said the same thing to me the first time i met her at the farm....Kramer is being a whiney bitch....I am seeing a pattern. Maybe you are a whiney bitch Kramerhttp://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #48 December 21, 2005 I suppose I could tell my manager. But it's not only me that these two people do this to. All of the hostesses (surprise!) have problems with the same 2 servers. No one else wants to speak up either. Oh, well. Being vindictive will work just fine until I decide to say something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #49 December 21, 2005 Maybe Kele should add Kramer to list of Bitches that need to be Cock-Slapped?? Might do him some good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #50 December 21, 2005 Add him? You mean he's not already on there? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites