Cantoral 1 #1 February 1, 2008 Hi all Maybe it's a dumb question, but it's possible to take the lines from a canopy that it has been damaged just the fabric and put them in another canopy (same size, same brand)? I hope that my English is not so bad Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tdog 0 #2 February 1, 2008 It would take a lot of bartack removal, and with all those holes, re-bartacking might be sketch-ball. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mark 104 #3 February 1, 2008 Quickest way with least chance for damage is to cut the line attach loops for B and D lines (and brake lines) on both canopies, then replace the line attach loops on the keeper canopy. No fingertrapping required. Assumes canopy with fabric damage is going to be thrown out anyway. Best way is to just install a new line set. Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tdog 0 #4 February 1, 2008 So - basically remove and replace the attachment points, instead of the fingertraps... But then you have a bunch of stitiching torn out on the keeper canopy with a bunch of new holes for the replacement line attachments??? Can't be too good for strength... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mark 104 #5 February 1, 2008 Easier to remove the line-attach bartacks than the line bartacks, and you only have to remove a little more than half as many. Also, you may be able to just leave the original bartacks in place, remove as much of the tape as you can with scissors, and just bartack the new attachment over the old. Check with the manufacturer to see what they might suggest. PD doesn't like redoing the bartacks because the lingerie tape they use is more prone to damage from restitching than Type 3 tape is. Except for that, most of the damage from restitching comes from the disassembly process, not from the reassembly. Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Cantoral 1 #6 February 1, 2008 QuoteQuickest way with least chance for damage is to cut the line attach loops for B and D lines (and brake lines) on both canopies, then replace the line attach loops on the keeper canopy. No fingertrapping required. Assumes canopy with fabric damage is going to be thrown out anyway. Do you have an idea how much can get to cost this work? Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggerrob 558 #7 February 2, 2008 Then add another two hours to pick the stitches out of the line attachment tapes on the receiver canopy. Remember that it is usually easier to pick stitches out of tape than line. Then another hour or two to sew on new line attachment tapes. If installing a factory line kite requires 4 hours labor (at $50 per hour) and replacing line attachment tapes will add 2 or 3 more hours, you are talking about a $300 to $350 job. Oh! And you will have to add a few pennies for a yard (meter) or 2 of new tape. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrigger1 2 #8 February 2, 2008 Mark, Just a quick note,. The seam rippers I get from WalMart are the best! I get the smallest one they have. It is great for removing bartacks. With this one, I can easily remove bartacks from the lines without damage. I average 30-60 seconds per removal with it. Cheers, MELSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
tdog 0 #2 February 1, 2008 It would take a lot of bartack removal, and with all those holes, re-bartacking might be sketch-ball. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark 104 #3 February 1, 2008 Quickest way with least chance for damage is to cut the line attach loops for B and D lines (and brake lines) on both canopies, then replace the line attach loops on the keeper canopy. No fingertrapping required. Assumes canopy with fabric damage is going to be thrown out anyway. Best way is to just install a new line set. Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdog 0 #4 February 1, 2008 So - basically remove and replace the attachment points, instead of the fingertraps... But then you have a bunch of stitiching torn out on the keeper canopy with a bunch of new holes for the replacement line attachments??? Can't be too good for strength... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark 104 #5 February 1, 2008 Easier to remove the line-attach bartacks than the line bartacks, and you only have to remove a little more than half as many. Also, you may be able to just leave the original bartacks in place, remove as much of the tape as you can with scissors, and just bartack the new attachment over the old. Check with the manufacturer to see what they might suggest. PD doesn't like redoing the bartacks because the lingerie tape they use is more prone to damage from restitching than Type 3 tape is. Except for that, most of the damage from restitching comes from the disassembly process, not from the reassembly. Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cantoral 1 #6 February 1, 2008 QuoteQuickest way with least chance for damage is to cut the line attach loops for B and D lines (and brake lines) on both canopies, then replace the line attach loops on the keeper canopy. No fingertrapping required. Assumes canopy with fabric damage is going to be thrown out anyway. Do you have an idea how much can get to cost this work? Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #7 February 2, 2008 Then add another two hours to pick the stitches out of the line attachment tapes on the receiver canopy. Remember that it is usually easier to pick stitches out of tape than line. Then another hour or two to sew on new line attachment tapes. If installing a factory line kite requires 4 hours labor (at $50 per hour) and replacing line attachment tapes will add 2 or 3 more hours, you are talking about a $300 to $350 job. Oh! And you will have to add a few pennies for a yard (meter) or 2 of new tape. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrigger1 2 #8 February 2, 2008 Mark, Just a quick note,. The seam rippers I get from WalMart are the best! I get the smallest one they have. It is great for removing bartacks. With this one, I can easily remove bartacks from the lines without damage. I average 30-60 seconds per removal with it. Cheers, MELSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
