LisaM 0 #1 May 9, 2006 Last October I was promised a raise along with a promotion (nothing major... just a title change). I got some of the raise (less than half) and was told money is tight I would get the rest when we got a new contract. It is almost review time asd still nothing. A company just called me saying they found my resume on monster.... huge pay raise. I emailed my boss told him that we let 2 people go (for performance reasons) my raise shoud be possible. He wrote back saying he is actively working on this. I feel taken advantage of... those people have been gone for a month. I am so weak.... ~ Lisa ~ Do you Rigminder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 37 #2 May 9, 2006 QuoteLast October I was promised a raise along with a promotion (nothing major... just a title change). I got some of the raise (less than half) and was told money is tight I would get the rest when we got a new contract. It is almost review time asd still nothing. A company just called me saying they found my resume on monster.... huge pay raise. I emailed my boss told him that we let 2 people go (for performance reasons) my raise shoud be possible. He wrote back saying he is actively working on this. I feel taken advantage of... those people have been gone for a month. I am so weak.... Here's your answer "A company just called me saying they found my resume on monster.... huge pay raise." Go for it. The company you're working for is just stringing you along. Actively working on it my ass."Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #3 May 9, 2006 How's the job market in your location/area of work? Keep your C.V upto date and out at agencies ... I always look for new jobs, not actively but try to keep abreast of the market ... it never hurts. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaM 0 #4 May 9, 2006 The thought of that gives me a knot in my stomach... I already emailed him saying thanks. I will email him at the end of the week as a reminder and maybe put in something like that... EEK! ~ Lisa ~ Do you Rigminder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaM 0 #5 May 9, 2006 Not the best..... I woud hte to threaten him and have him say ok have fun..... ~ Lisa ~ Do you Rigminder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #6 May 9, 2006 No dont threaten... bad practice.... Research. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unformed 0 #7 May 9, 2006 QuoteThe thought of that gives me a knot in my stomach... I already emailed him saying thanks. I will email him at the end of the week as a reminder and maybe put in something like that... EEK! When you say thanks after they just broke a promise, they know they can do it again. Most companies aren't going to give you an approprate pay raise unless you demand it. What it comes down to is, Do you want the job more than they want you as an employee?This ad space for sale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 37 #8 May 9, 2006 QuoteThe thought of that gives me a knot in my stomach... I already emailed him saying thanks. I will email him at the end of the week as a reminder and maybe put in something like that... EEK! And since he's been stringing you along already you're perfectly able to go get another job and when you get one, hand in your resignation. Get a new job first, then say "C'ya""Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaM 0 #9 May 9, 2006 Valid point... now I feel like I just made the situation worse. I will have to give him this chance.... damn! ~ Lisa ~ Do you Rigminder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #10 May 9, 2006 QuoteA company just called me saying they found my resume on monster.... huge pay raise. Quote Take a personal day off. Go interview with this company. When you are offered the job, tell boss #1 that you need to go with a company that will support you (and your family, if you have one) better. Thank you for the 'X' years of employment, but it's time to part ways.~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChrisL 2 #11 May 9, 2006 QuoteNot the best..... I woud hte to threaten him and have him say ok have fun..... Dont threaten him. Thats unprofessional. Accept the other job if its offered to you, and politely give your employer proper notice. IF they feel like making a counter offer, then the ball is in their court. In either case you will be good.__ My mighty steed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites LisaM 0 #12 May 9, 2006 The job itsolf sucks and I would not take it.... ~ Lisa ~ Do you Rigminder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rdy2skydive 0 #13 May 9, 2006 Sorry to hear that. The same thing happened to me at my last company. My boss offered me a different job in the same department. It was supposed to be a promotion with a title change and a raise. She promised it would happen by a certain date, it would be retro blah blah blah. Her final words: "Trust me!" There were always excuses why it didn't happen: budget cuts, lay-offs, etc. After almost a year I found another job: more money, better benefits, etc. She was shocked when I told her I was leaving. That was over a year-and-a-half ago. She still feels like I betrayed her for finding another job and not trusting her to keep her word. I hate to say it, but be prepared for your boss to not keep his word. You are right to feel taken advantage of. Consider exploring other options - it may be the only way you see that money. Good luck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Hawkins121 0 #14 May 9, 2006 What do you do for a living and what area are you in? Could you go somewhere else for more money? How replacable are you? Do you have a security clearance? If you are hard to replace PUSH for what you were promised and drop subtle hints that you are not happy and you will look elsewhere... If you are easy to replace you probably dont have much to work with in the way of negotiations. Dont threaten.. Keep in mind they dont really care and the only reason a project manager will give you a raise is to prevent the hassle of finding another body to fill the billet on that contract.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites LisaM 0 #15 May 9, 2006 The undersying issue is that I do not want to leave this job... but I do want to be compensated. I have been laid off too many times to leave this job... it is the only stable job I have had in 5 years. I live in a horrible area for technology jobs. ~ Lisa ~ Do you Rigminder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Hawkins121 0 #16 May 9, 2006 Only thing you can do is ask really really nice again... But they hold all of the cards if the job market is weak in your area... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #17 May 9, 2006 Can you/will you move? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Beerlight 0 #18 May 9, 2006 QuoteThe thought of that gives me a knot in my stomach... I already emailed him saying thanks. I will email him at the end of the week as a reminder and maybe put in something like that... EEK! No e-mails, better a face to face on any issue like this........ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites LisaM 0 #19 May 9, 2006 Not just yet.. not for a few years...... ~ Lisa ~ Do you Rigminder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites LisaM 0 #20 May 9, 2006 I don't think he holds all the cards.... but I am chicken and that holds me back..... I let this go to long..... ~ Lisa ~ Do you Rigminder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #21 May 9, 2006 Good point ... I missed that one. Keep it personal, it's too easy for him to say no in an e-mail. Also, do you have regular 1:1 meetings with your boss? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites LisaM 0 #22 May 9, 2006 He usually approaches me ..... I hate face t face. I am weaker that way... I just believe every word and thank him on my way out..... We do not have regular one on ones... come to think of it, we did before he offered me the raise when he asked me how I was liking the job..... ~ Lisa ~ Do you Rigminder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Beerlight 0 #23 May 9, 2006 QuoteHe usually approaches me ..... I hate face t face. I am weaker that way... I just believe every word and thank him on my way out.....Quote Learn to love face to face...... It's the only way to get ahead in todays business world. Take charge of your career.... We do not have regular one on ones... come to think of it, we did before he offered me the raise when he asked me how I was liking the job..... Weakness on your part invites your employer the ability to walk all over you. It's all about taking the tiger by the tail.....Go for it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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ChrisL 2 #11 May 9, 2006 QuoteNot the best..... I woud hte to threaten him and have him say ok have fun..... Dont threaten him. Thats unprofessional. Accept the other job if its offered to you, and politely give your employer proper notice. IF they feel like making a counter offer, then the ball is in their court. In either case you will be good.__ My mighty steed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaM 0 #12 May 9, 2006 The job itsolf sucks and I would not take it.... ~ Lisa ~ Do you Rigminder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rdy2skydive 0 #13 May 9, 2006 Sorry to hear that. The same thing happened to me at my last company. My boss offered me a different job in the same department. It was supposed to be a promotion with a title change and a raise. She promised it would happen by a certain date, it would be retro blah blah blah. Her final words: "Trust me!" There were always excuses why it didn't happen: budget cuts, lay-offs, etc. After almost a year I found another job: more money, better benefits, etc. She was shocked when I told her I was leaving. That was over a year-and-a-half ago. She still feels like I betrayed her for finding another job and not trusting her to keep her word. I hate to say it, but be prepared for your boss to not keep his word. You are right to feel taken advantage of. Consider exploring other options - it may be the only way you see that money. Good luck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkins121 0 #14 May 9, 2006 What do you do for a living and what area are you in? Could you go somewhere else for more money? How replacable are you? Do you have a security clearance? If you are hard to replace PUSH for what you were promised and drop subtle hints that you are not happy and you will look elsewhere... If you are easy to replace you probably dont have much to work with in the way of negotiations. Dont threaten.. Keep in mind they dont really care and the only reason a project manager will give you a raise is to prevent the hassle of finding another body to fill the billet on that contract.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaM 0 #15 May 9, 2006 The undersying issue is that I do not want to leave this job... but I do want to be compensated. I have been laid off too many times to leave this job... it is the only stable job I have had in 5 years. I live in a horrible area for technology jobs. ~ Lisa ~ Do you Rigminder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkins121 0 #16 May 9, 2006 Only thing you can do is ask really really nice again... But they hold all of the cards if the job market is weak in your area... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #17 May 9, 2006 Can you/will you move? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #18 May 9, 2006 QuoteThe thought of that gives me a knot in my stomach... I already emailed him saying thanks. I will email him at the end of the week as a reminder and maybe put in something like that... EEK! No e-mails, better a face to face on any issue like this........ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaM 0 #19 May 9, 2006 Not just yet.. not for a few years...... ~ Lisa ~ Do you Rigminder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaM 0 #20 May 9, 2006 I don't think he holds all the cards.... but I am chicken and that holds me back..... I let this go to long..... ~ Lisa ~ Do you Rigminder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #21 May 9, 2006 Good point ... I missed that one. Keep it personal, it's too easy for him to say no in an e-mail. Also, do you have regular 1:1 meetings with your boss? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaM 0 #22 May 9, 2006 He usually approaches me ..... I hate face t face. I am weaker that way... I just believe every word and thank him on my way out..... We do not have regular one on ones... come to think of it, we did before he offered me the raise when he asked me how I was liking the job..... ~ Lisa ~ Do you Rigminder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #23 May 9, 2006 QuoteHe usually approaches me ..... I hate face t face. I am weaker that way... I just believe every word and thank him on my way out.....Quote Learn to love face to face...... It's the only way to get ahead in todays business world. Take charge of your career.... We do not have regular one on ones... come to think of it, we did before he offered me the raise when he asked me how I was liking the job..... Weakness on your part invites your employer the ability to walk all over you. It's all about taking the tiger by the tail.....Go for it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
