Squeak 17 #1 August 15, 2007 My Rigger has emailed UPT a couple of time and so (I'm told) has Parachutes australia, and I sent an email as well, requesting the specs to retro fit a skyhook to a micron container. My rig had been out of commission for 5 weeks now whilst waiting for these specs. Can SOMEONE please send me or parachutes Australia the specs, i want my rig backYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeForsythe 0 #2 August 15, 2007 If you want your rig back then have your rigger pack it and go get it. It is just not specs, you will also need the skyhook retrofit kit.Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #3 August 15, 2007 Quote If you want your rig back then have your rigger pack it and go get it. It is just not specs, you will also need the skyhook retrofit kit. No Mike your wrong I HAVE all; the bits required i ONLY want the specs. and it's a little hard to get my rig as apparently ONLY PA is allowed to retro fit the hook so my rig is 4000kms awayI only want the specs, a 5 second task that has so far taken over a monthYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeForsythe 0 #4 August 15, 2007 Actually I am not wrong as you do need the kit as I stated Hope everything works out Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #5 August 15, 2007 Quote Quote If you want your rig back then have your rigger pack it and go get it. It is just not specs, you will also need the skyhook retrofit kit. No Mike your wrong I HAVE all; the bits required i ONLY want the specs. and it's a little hard to get my rig as apparently ONLY PA is allowed to retro fit the hook so my rig is 4000kms awayI only want the specs, a 5 second task that has so far taken over a month Is Parachutes Australia an approved installation facility?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #6 August 15, 2007 Quote Quote Quote If you want your rig back then have your rigger pack it and go get it. It is just not specs, you will also need the skyhook retrofit kit. No Mike your wrong I HAVE all; the bits required i ONLY want the specs. and it's a little hard to get my rig as apparently ONLY PA is allowed to retro fit the hook so my rig is 4000kms awayI only want the specs, a 5 second task that has so far taken over a month Is Parachutes Australia an approved installation facility? Supossedly yes they are, but they dont have a spec sheet for the measurementsYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marinho 0 #7 August 15, 2007 Quote My Rigger has emailed UPT a couple of time and so (I'm told) has Parachutes australia, and I sent an email as well, requesting the specs to retro fit a skyhook to a micron container. My rig had been out of commission for 5 weeks now whilst waiting for these specs. Can SOMEONE please send me or parachutes Australia the specs, i want my rig back Hi, I'm an authorized UPT skyhook installer. Which specs are you looking for? Let me see if I can help you!Gus Marinho Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIGGER 0 #8 August 15, 2007 Hi I'm an approved Master Rigger to retrofit Sigma & Vector 3 sport rigs. Retrofit a sigma or a V3 Micron is a Master Rigger work & ONLY a Master rigger who was trained at RWS/UPT can do that. If the Master Rigger is approved by the RWS/UPT he will have the spec. instructions. Retrofit a V3 Micron is an additional training & if a Master rigger is approved to retrofit Sigma h/c it DOES NOT mean he is certify to retrofit V3 sport rigs. Gus, you should not send the spec. sheet that we the approved Master Riggers have to other rigger which you do not know if he is approved for that. The Master Rigger should contact UPT/RWS for that. No other can approve him/her or provide the paper work. Safe Rigging !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marinho 0 #9 August 15, 2007 Hi Shlomi, How's everything? Long time no see you!!! Don't worry, I'm not sending any specs to them! Just trying to figure out what he's looking for and see if I can help somehow! Stop by in South Carolina next time you're in the States! Cheers,Gus Marinho Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #10 August 15, 2007 QuoteHi I'm an approved Master Rigger to retrofit Sigma & Vector 3 sport rigs. Retrofit a sigma or a V3 Micron is a Master Rigger work & ONLY a Master rigger who was trained at RWS/UPT can do that. If the Master Rigger is approved by the RWS/UPT he will have the spec. instructions. Retrofit a V3 Micron is an additional training & if a Master rigger is approved to retrofit Sigma h/c it DOES NOT mean he is certify to retrofit V3 sport rigs. Gus, you should not send the spec. sheet that we the approved Master Riggers have to other rigger which you do not know if he is approved for that. The Master Rigger should contact UPT/RWS for that. No other can approve him/her or provide the paper work. Safe Rigging !!! Yeah I actually know ALL of this, FWIW we dont have master riggers here in Australia, HOWEVER Parachures Australia ARE authorised to do the retro fit (According to both Bill Booth and The head rigger guy at UPT (i forget his name) The problem is they DONT have the spec for the sport rigs. I know they dont because I spoke to them on the phone. This is why I'm pissed off, when i rang and aksed if they could do the retrofit, they said Yup they were the only ones in OZ who can, well guess what? They cant without the specsYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #11 August 15, 2007 QuoteONLY a Master rigger who was trained at RWS/UPT can do that. Where does it say that in the FAR's?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #12 August 15, 2007 QuoteQuoteONLY a Master rigger who was trained at RWS/UPT can do that. Where does it say that in the FAR's?It's a UPT thing but even if it was in thre FAR they DO NOT apply to meYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpecialKaye 0 #13 August 15, 2007 Since there is a change to the reserve container, here in the states, it must be done by a master rigger or the manufacturer or a sr. rigger under the supervision and inspected by a master rigger... FAR part 65, which governs rigging. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIGGER 0 #14 August 15, 2007 Hi Does the V3 Micron to be retrofit is skyhook ready ? It looks easy to do but it is not, there are a lot of technical hand work & sewing & small details to follow. Safe Rigging !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIGGER 0 #15 August 15, 2007 Hi To make it more accurate; only a Master Rigger that was trained & certify by UPT/RWS !!! OR UPT/RWS as the mfg. A lot of detalis to make it work as it should. Be Safe !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrigger1 2 #16 August 15, 2007 Quote Since there is a change to the reserve container, here in the states, it must be done by a master rigger or the manufacturer or a sr. rigger under the supervision and inspected by a master rigger... FAR part 65, which governs rigging. Very much a correct statement! But the fact that it is a change or modification alone means that a master rigger or manufacturer must do the work. (at least here in the States) Cheers, MELSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #17 August 15, 2007 QuoteHi Does the V3 Micron to be retrofit is skyhook ready ? It looks easy to do but it is not, there are a lot of technical hand work & sewing & small details to follow. Safe Rigging !!! Yes the Rig is Skyhook Ready, it has the Colins Lanyard, I also have the retro fit kit that UPT sent me (or PA has it now) so I have everything I need to do the fit EXCEPT the damned specsYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #18 August 16, 2007 QuoteTo make it more accurate; only a Master Rigger that was trained & certify by UPT/RWS !!! Where does it say that in the FAR's?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 4 #19 August 16, 2007 QuoteQuoteTo make it more accurate; only a Master Rigger that was trained & certify by UPT/RWS !!! Where does it say that in the FAR's? I'd say the part that says "In accordance with the mfr" -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,071 #20 August 16, 2007 Hi Folks, QuoteSince there is a change to the reserve container, At the PIA in Reno earlier this year I asked Bill Booth if he submitted a Minor Change regarding the SkyHook. He said that he did not because he did not feel that it was a change. Given that, the FAA knows nothing about the SkyHook system. Now if that is the case, then it would seem (to me at least) that there is really no control on who can retro-fit a SkyHook; short of getting the goodies and specs from UPT. Thoughts? Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #21 August 16, 2007 QuoteHi Folks, Now if that is the case, then it would seem (to me at least) that there is really no control on who can retro-fit a SkyHook; short of getting the goodies and specs from UPT. Thoughts? Jerry Baumchen From what I gather that's how it is handled here, but getting the specs is a task unto itselfYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #22 August 16, 2007 Quote Hi Folks, Quote Since there is a change to the reserve container, At the PIA in Reno earlier this year I asked Bill Booth if he submitted a Minor Change regarding the SkyHook. He said that he did not because he did not feel that it was a change. Given that, the FAA knows nothing about the SkyHook system. Now if that is the case, then it would seem (to me at least) that there is really no control on who can retro-fit a SkyHook; short of getting the goodies and specs from UPT. Thoughts? Jerry Baumchen Given that, I'd say it's not a TSO'd component.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #23 August 16, 2007 YAY UPT has sent the specs through todayTHANKS for those who helped You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
