How much would you pay...

[SeanSolo 0]

For:

Vector II with 500 jumps, Sabre 190 with 350 jumps, PD 193 with no jumps, and with an out of date Cypres (DOM 1994).

The container, main, and reserve are all from '92. I'm gonna have to get a BOC conversion which will probably be, ehh, fourty bucks.

So, altogether, how much would you pay for the complete rig?

Also, are Sabres any good. Some people tell me they give hard openings and this one is from '92 so... should I get a Spectre instead?

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[Mostly_Harmless 0]

You shouldn't pay anything for the cypres since it's no longer useful to you.

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[SeanSolo 0]

someone told me you can trade in old cypres' and get a discount of like 80 bucks or so on a new one.

Cookie Firecrotch
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[billvon 2,406]

>Some people tell me they give hard openings and this one is from '92 so... should I get a Spectre instead?

If you dislike hard openings you may want to go with a softer-opening canopy like a Spectre or Pilot. You can add a pocket slider to the Sabre to slow it down if you wish.

[2shay 0]

I personally would not buy this setup. My first was a dolphin w triathlon 190 and tempo res and cypres for 1200 and i jumped it for bout 100 jumps then sold for 100 dollars cheaper. Sabre 1's suck don't buy it

don't try your bullshit with me!!!

[peregrinerose 0]

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Sabre 1's suck don't buy it

My first 150 jumps were on a Sabre1, never had a problem with it. My husband's second canopy was the same Sabre1, he put about 300 more jumps on it, still no problems.

Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda

[SeanSolo 0]

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If you dislike hard openings you may want to go with a softer-opening canopy like a Spectre or Pilot. You can add a pocket slider to the Sabre to slow it down if you wish.

or i could get a slider off a tandem rig right. that should work...

Cookie Firecrotch
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[billvon 2,406]

>or i could get a slider off a tandem rig right.

Eh, bigger sliders do not always slow down openings! Discovered that the hard way. Bigger sliders let the canopy spread out more while the slider is still up.

[councilman24 36]

$1300 without seeing it. And you can't freefly with it.

I've jumped a Sabre for 15 years, stock. I don't call them hard, I call them positive.

I'm old for my age.
Terry Urban
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FAA DPRE

[SeanSolo 0]

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And you can't freefly with it.

wouldn't something like riser tabs (i think thats what they're called) fix this?

Cookie Firecrotch
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[2shay 0]

I also have a couple frineds that get rocked by theirs almost always. Look at the reviews this has been a big problem with them

don't try your bullshit with me!!!

[councilman24 36]

Can't be retrofitted. Other considerations also. Just don't plan on free flying with a Vector II.

I'm old for my age.
Terry Urban
D-8631
FAA DPRE

[peregrinerose 0]

I have several friends that have been snapped hard on a Spectre. I ended up in the ER that way, one had 2 compression fractures. Doesn't make it a crappy canopy though.

I knew when I bought the sabre it had a rep for hard openings, just never actually had one. For a first canopy it isn't a bad choice.

Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda

[Armour666 0]

I have a Talon 2 , Saber 190 Dom 92 as well and a Raven IV reserve. I payed $1600 (Canadaian) for it and $50 for the ROL to BOC conversion.

I Called PD befor I jumped it because of so many people saying the are spankers. The slider size on it it was to large for what PD recomended so i swped it out to the recomended size. I haven't had a hard opening on it yet. I pro pack with rolling the nose and seames to behave well.

SO this one time at band camp.....

"Of all the things I've lost I miss my mind the most."

[SeanSolo 0]

*still wondering how much to pay*

probably $1200 - $1300...

Cookie Firecrotch
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[2shay 0]

i wouldnt pay more than a 1000 you can always find good deals on this website also some of the best are the ones of people getting out of the sport.

don't try your bullshit with me!!!

[MagicGuy 0]

$1000 seems reasonable. Condition can change that price, though.

Keep in mind, while old gear can be perfectly useable, gear from '92 is 15 year old technology. Just something to keep in mind.

Sabre's are unpredictable. Some people say there are good ones and bad ones. Some people have hard openings occasionally, some have them all the time, some never have them. If this is something you're OK with, than make the choice.

A Vector 2 is not freefly safe. I haven't heard of riser tabs.. maybe you meant changing the riser covers from velcro to tuck tabs. That won't do anything for the freefly aspect. If you are planning on freeflying, don't buy a Vector 2.

Keep in mind that you don't have to buy a complete rig. You can get better deals by piecing gear together. Biggest thing is finding a container that fits you and that will fit appropriate sized canopies. After that, the canopes are usually fairly easy to come across. I put together a basically brand new Wings rig minus Cypres for roughly $1600.

[SeanSolo 0]

how much do you think billvon?

*thinking* i wish i could get some more rigger perspectives on cost.

Cookie Firecrotch
"Don't you know who I am!? I'm the Juggernaut Bitch!"

[billvon 2,406]

Off the top of my head -

>Vector II with 500 jumps

$300-$400

>Sabre 190 with 350 jumps

$400 depending on condition

>PD 193 with no jumps

$700-800 depending on number of repacks. (It's usually the number of repacks, not the number of jumps, that determine how much life a PD reserve has left.)

>and with an out of date Cypres (DOM 1994).

Should be free. Give em $40 if he insists.

[DZ_EPHESUS_TR 0]

*** :"The container, main, and reserve are all from '92."

[billvon 2,406]

>DOM 92 PD 193 should cost much less than 800.

A new 92 PD193 is pretty similar to a modern PD193, so I don't think the date matters too much. OTOH, if it has a lot of repacks on it, that would reduce its value.