GQ_jumper 4 #1 October 12, 2007 I just got word that Randy has hung up his gloves for good this time. After defeating Gonzaga a few months ago he told the UFC that if he didn't get a fight with Fedor he would retire because he felt that Fedor was the only heavyweight in the world who coud really challenge him, and if he wasn't fighting someone who stood a real chance of beating him he would just be fighting for the money, and thats not why he wanted to fight. This happened after Fedor announced that he was signing with another production(M-1 fights in Russia). Here's the article http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ki-couture101107&prov=yhoo&type=lgns He couldn't have picked a better time to go out though, he's a 2-time light heavyweight and 3-time heavyweight champion and he's beaten MMA's A-list into submission for years and the whole time he's always been one of the most polite, respectful and classy competitors out there, and the fact that he came back at the age of 43 to beat Sylvia is nothing short of amazing. It just sucks to see him go, he's one of my heros, I wanted to cry when I read the article And not to knock Fedor too bad but, WTF!!!! If h really thinks he is the best heavyweight in the world than he would have signed with the UFC. If you want to be a legend you have to fight a legend and right now in that weight class Randy is about the only man standing who can claim that title. I see it as Fedor playin a smoke and mirrors game to make himself look like the best, but fighting in M-1 where there are no top rated heavyweights means he's not the real thing.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #2 October 12, 2007 So what happens with the belt? I wasn't a devoted watcher when got t-boned on his bike. Do they just have the top 2 contenders fight for it? And, yes, that sucks but that guy is a true champion and at least he won't fall off the earth. I'm sure he'll go back to commentation. Maybe, He'll come back if some miracle brings Fedor to Ufc in the near future.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #3 October 12, 2007 BTW- Ever get the feeling there arent alot of UFC watchers here? My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #4 October 12, 2007 So what happens with the belt? Quote the UFC will pick the two top contenders and pit them against each other, my guess, whoever wins the Sylvia/Vera fight will be the first one in line for it. QuoteAnd, yes, that sucks but that guy is a true champion and at least he won't fall off the earth. I'm sure he'll go back to commentation. Nope, he said he won't even be broadcasting with the UFC, he has actually been doing that for th last couple years to improve his on-camera appearance to help with his acting. He is filming a movie right now.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dannydan 0 #5 October 12, 2007 Quote BTW- Ever get the feeling there arent alot of UFC watchers here? I quit watching when the UFC pansies changed the MEANING of UFC!!! spit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #6 October 12, 2007 Man, I hope it's a decnt movie.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites yjumpinoz 0 #7 October 12, 2007 Fedor may not want to come to the UFC because of Pride's record so far. I thought the merger would bring talent, but it has not worked out that way so far. Randy is a real class act. I am sure he will be training some future champs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #8 October 12, 2007 Fedor may not want to come to the UFC because of Pride's record so far. I thought the merger would bring talent, but it has not worked out that way so far. Randy is a real class act. I am sure he will be training some future champs. Quote Or Fedor could very well be playing the Frank Shamrockesque smoke and mirrors game of intentionally seeking out lesser talent to pick on to give the impression he is unstoppable. It's hard to say, but if he was half the warrior Randy is he would be kicking down Dana White's door to get in the octagon with Randy. As for training future champs, well Forrest is a product of Randy's camp, so is Karo Parysian, not to mention Wanderlei has recently started training with Randy as well. there are some great fighters working their way up the ladder but I'm really going to miss the way Randy fought, his name is synonymous with MMA.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #9 October 12, 2007 I think the octagon has a few people confused but not all of them have lost. I was surpised to seeCro Cop settle in for the 2nd loss against Kongo. there wasn't much going on I think he may have been thinking too much. Then again I was surprised at Chucks loss to Jardine. I thought it would be a brawl but chuck seemed to forget that he needed that win. It may be time for him to learn some ground skills. This new breed won't Lay still for him.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites keka 0 #10 October 12, 2007 Quote BTW- Ever get the feeling there arent alot of UFC watchers here? ME ME ME I loved to watch when I was training BJJ.. I still like it, but I don't get to watch it very often; especially after being so popular...every other weekend we have one..and it's boring. too much "comercial"but yeah.. I like it. I will confirm this Randy "thing"http://www.woundedwarriorproject.org PMS#551 I love my life :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #11 October 12, 2007 Boring? the last few events have been PACKED with some of the best fights I have ever seen. They ARE too close together though, I can't afford to pay for them all.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites doug925 0 #12 October 12, 2007 Tell me about it. The every 3rd week PPV @ $40 it getting pricey. I am going to miss Randy, but I am hoping with the right opponent, and the right $ he will return. Doug.I have never developed indigestion from eating my words. Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BigMark 1 #13 October 13, 2007 Randy Cotoure is the man, a real class act. Chuck Liddels speech seems a little slower lately, maybe he had some mild brain damage lately. Hello to everyone here from So Cal! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #14 October 13, 2007 Then again I was surprised at Chucks loss to Jardine. I thought it would be a brawl but chuck seemed to forget that he needed that win. It may be time for him to learn some ground skills. This new breed won't Lay still for him. Quote Problem with the Jardine Chuck fight was that Jardine's awkward stance and fighting style just married up with Chuck's perectly. Remember how Jardine was keeping his left shoulder low and hunching over, well Chucks big overhand right(which causes 90% of his KO's) was slipping right off Jardine's head because of that stance. He was playin for keeps in the first round but by the second he was getting frustrated because his punches weren't being as effective as he wanted. Blame his trainer for not chaning up his game plan between rounds. As for his ground skills, Chuck was a well classed division 1 wrestler in college, wrestling is part of his daily routine(which is why he can scramble so well) and in terms of submissions he probably has the skills of a solid purple belt or even better(for comparison GSP is a purple belt). He just doesn't like it down there, unlike me, I love the ground, I don't get punched as much down there and I'm a big baby that doesn't like getting punched!!! In Randy's case though, I doubt he'll come back, he tappd out at the right time and did it for a good reason, he fights to prove he's the best and picking on the new up and coming fighters doesn't do that, it makes him a bully, so when Fedor backed out he had nothing left to prove. I miss him already History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #15 October 13, 2007 That's what I mean by I was surprised. (not that I knew that much technical stuff) But Chucks Motto is "why change the thing that got you this far" referring to his training. He said exactly that prior to fight when he lost the belt. He CONSTANTLY says I'll land that punch..... He's always looking for the "one punch "not for the long haul. He finally fought another great striker and looked like an amateur, imo jardine was the underdog by far but he pulled the upset with style. Chuck's only game plan is to land THE punch since that didnt work he had nothing to go to....not even a Jardine-styled kick.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Attilla 0 #16 October 14, 2007 Randy's not done. Odds are he'll fight Fedor in M1, or whatever they decide to call M1's reincarnation. After that, if he's still fit and hungry, he'll come back to the UFC, this time earning more than Chuck. The interesting question for the UFC now is who gets to contend for the belt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites klingeme 0 #17 October 17, 2007 QuoteSo what happens with the belt? I wasn't a devoted watcher when got t-boned on his bike. Do they just have the top 2 contenders fight for it? And, yes, that sucks but that guy is a true champion and at least he won't fall off the earth. I'm sure he'll go back to commentation. Maybe, He'll come back if some miracle brings Fedor to Ufc in the near future. The same thing that happened when Penn left as champ, they just have a fight with the 2nd and 3rd best guys to determine the "new" champ. Mark Klingelhoefer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites klingeme 0 #18 October 17, 2007 QuoteBoring? the last few events have been PACKED with some of the best fights I have ever seen. They ARE too close together though, I can't afford to pay for them all. Do what I did and find a Bar where you can watch them for free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #19 October 17, 2007 I would but I'm not a barfly. Most of the bars I have ever ben to won't turn up the volume LOL. Frank Mir was the name I couldn't remember in an ealier post.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. 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dannydan 0 #5 October 12, 2007 Quote BTW- Ever get the feeling there arent alot of UFC watchers here? I quit watching when the UFC pansies changed the MEANING of UFC!!! spit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #6 October 12, 2007 Man, I hope it's a decnt movie.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yjumpinoz 0 #7 October 12, 2007 Fedor may not want to come to the UFC because of Pride's record so far. I thought the merger would bring talent, but it has not worked out that way so far. Randy is a real class act. I am sure he will be training some future champs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #8 October 12, 2007 Fedor may not want to come to the UFC because of Pride's record so far. I thought the merger would bring talent, but it has not worked out that way so far. Randy is a real class act. I am sure he will be training some future champs. Quote Or Fedor could very well be playing the Frank Shamrockesque smoke and mirrors game of intentionally seeking out lesser talent to pick on to give the impression he is unstoppable. It's hard to say, but if he was half the warrior Randy is he would be kicking down Dana White's door to get in the octagon with Randy. As for training future champs, well Forrest is a product of Randy's camp, so is Karo Parysian, not to mention Wanderlei has recently started training with Randy as well. there are some great fighters working their way up the ladder but I'm really going to miss the way Randy fought, his name is synonymous with MMA.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #9 October 12, 2007 I think the octagon has a few people confused but not all of them have lost. I was surpised to seeCro Cop settle in for the 2nd loss against Kongo. there wasn't much going on I think he may have been thinking too much. Then again I was surprised at Chucks loss to Jardine. I thought it would be a brawl but chuck seemed to forget that he needed that win. It may be time for him to learn some ground skills. This new breed won't Lay still for him.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites keka 0 #10 October 12, 2007 Quote BTW- Ever get the feeling there arent alot of UFC watchers here? ME ME ME I loved to watch when I was training BJJ.. I still like it, but I don't get to watch it very often; especially after being so popular...every other weekend we have one..and it's boring. too much "comercial"but yeah.. I like it. I will confirm this Randy "thing"http://www.woundedwarriorproject.org PMS#551 I love my life :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #11 October 12, 2007 Boring? the last few events have been PACKED with some of the best fights I have ever seen. They ARE too close together though, I can't afford to pay for them all.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites doug925 0 #12 October 12, 2007 Tell me about it. The every 3rd week PPV @ $40 it getting pricey. I am going to miss Randy, but I am hoping with the right opponent, and the right $ he will return. Doug.I have never developed indigestion from eating my words. Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BigMark 1 #13 October 13, 2007 Randy Cotoure is the man, a real class act. Chuck Liddels speech seems a little slower lately, maybe he had some mild brain damage lately. Hello to everyone here from So Cal! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #14 October 13, 2007 Then again I was surprised at Chucks loss to Jardine. I thought it would be a brawl but chuck seemed to forget that he needed that win. It may be time for him to learn some ground skills. This new breed won't Lay still for him. Quote Problem with the Jardine Chuck fight was that Jardine's awkward stance and fighting style just married up with Chuck's perectly. Remember how Jardine was keeping his left shoulder low and hunching over, well Chucks big overhand right(which causes 90% of his KO's) was slipping right off Jardine's head because of that stance. He was playin for keeps in the first round but by the second he was getting frustrated because his punches weren't being as effective as he wanted. Blame his trainer for not chaning up his game plan between rounds. As for his ground skills, Chuck was a well classed division 1 wrestler in college, wrestling is part of his daily routine(which is why he can scramble so well) and in terms of submissions he probably has the skills of a solid purple belt or even better(for comparison GSP is a purple belt). He just doesn't like it down there, unlike me, I love the ground, I don't get punched as much down there and I'm a big baby that doesn't like getting punched!!! In Randy's case though, I doubt he'll come back, he tappd out at the right time and did it for a good reason, he fights to prove he's the best and picking on the new up and coming fighters doesn't do that, it makes him a bully, so when Fedor backed out he had nothing left to prove. I miss him already History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #15 October 13, 2007 That's what I mean by I was surprised. (not that I knew that much technical stuff) But Chucks Motto is "why change the thing that got you this far" referring to his training. He said exactly that prior to fight when he lost the belt. He CONSTANTLY says I'll land that punch..... He's always looking for the "one punch "not for the long haul. He finally fought another great striker and looked like an amateur, imo jardine was the underdog by far but he pulled the upset with style. Chuck's only game plan is to land THE punch since that didnt work he had nothing to go to....not even a Jardine-styled kick.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Attilla 0 #16 October 14, 2007 Randy's not done. Odds are he'll fight Fedor in M1, or whatever they decide to call M1's reincarnation. After that, if he's still fit and hungry, he'll come back to the UFC, this time earning more than Chuck. The interesting question for the UFC now is who gets to contend for the belt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites klingeme 0 #17 October 17, 2007 QuoteSo what happens with the belt? I wasn't a devoted watcher when got t-boned on his bike. Do they just have the top 2 contenders fight for it? And, yes, that sucks but that guy is a true champion and at least he won't fall off the earth. I'm sure he'll go back to commentation. Maybe, He'll come back if some miracle brings Fedor to Ufc in the near future. The same thing that happened when Penn left as champ, they just have a fight with the 2nd and 3rd best guys to determine the "new" champ. Mark Klingelhoefer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites klingeme 0 #18 October 17, 2007 QuoteBoring? the last few events have been PACKED with some of the best fights I have ever seen. They ARE too close together though, I can't afford to pay for them all. Do what I did and find a Bar where you can watch them for free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #19 October 17, 2007 I would but I'm not a barfly. Most of the bars I have ever ben to won't turn up the volume LOL. Frank Mir was the name I couldn't remember in an ealier post.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
jtval 0 #9 October 12, 2007 I think the octagon has a few people confused but not all of them have lost. I was surpised to seeCro Cop settle in for the 2nd loss against Kongo. there wasn't much going on I think he may have been thinking too much. Then again I was surprised at Chucks loss to Jardine. I thought it would be a brawl but chuck seemed to forget that he needed that win. It may be time for him to learn some ground skills. This new breed won't Lay still for him.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keka 0 #10 October 12, 2007 Quote BTW- Ever get the feeling there arent alot of UFC watchers here? ME ME ME I loved to watch when I was training BJJ.. I still like it, but I don't get to watch it very often; especially after being so popular...every other weekend we have one..and it's boring. too much "comercial"but yeah.. I like it. I will confirm this Randy "thing"http://www.woundedwarriorproject.org PMS#551 I love my life :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #11 October 12, 2007 Boring? the last few events have been PACKED with some of the best fights I have ever seen. They ARE too close together though, I can't afford to pay for them all.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doug925 0 #12 October 12, 2007 Tell me about it. The every 3rd week PPV @ $40 it getting pricey. I am going to miss Randy, but I am hoping with the right opponent, and the right $ he will return. Doug.I have never developed indigestion from eating my words. Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigMark 1 #13 October 13, 2007 Randy Cotoure is the man, a real class act. Chuck Liddels speech seems a little slower lately, maybe he had some mild brain damage lately. Hello to everyone here from So Cal! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #14 October 13, 2007 Then again I was surprised at Chucks loss to Jardine. I thought it would be a brawl but chuck seemed to forget that he needed that win. It may be time for him to learn some ground skills. This new breed won't Lay still for him. Quote Problem with the Jardine Chuck fight was that Jardine's awkward stance and fighting style just married up with Chuck's perectly. Remember how Jardine was keeping his left shoulder low and hunching over, well Chucks big overhand right(which causes 90% of his KO's) was slipping right off Jardine's head because of that stance. He was playin for keeps in the first round but by the second he was getting frustrated because his punches weren't being as effective as he wanted. Blame his trainer for not chaning up his game plan between rounds. As for his ground skills, Chuck was a well classed division 1 wrestler in college, wrestling is part of his daily routine(which is why he can scramble so well) and in terms of submissions he probably has the skills of a solid purple belt or even better(for comparison GSP is a purple belt). He just doesn't like it down there, unlike me, I love the ground, I don't get punched as much down there and I'm a big baby that doesn't like getting punched!!! In Randy's case though, I doubt he'll come back, he tappd out at the right time and did it for a good reason, he fights to prove he's the best and picking on the new up and coming fighters doesn't do that, it makes him a bully, so when Fedor backed out he had nothing left to prove. I miss him already History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #15 October 13, 2007 That's what I mean by I was surprised. (not that I knew that much technical stuff) But Chucks Motto is "why change the thing that got you this far" referring to his training. He said exactly that prior to fight when he lost the belt. He CONSTANTLY says I'll land that punch..... He's always looking for the "one punch "not for the long haul. He finally fought another great striker and looked like an amateur, imo jardine was the underdog by far but he pulled the upset with style. Chuck's only game plan is to land THE punch since that didnt work he had nothing to go to....not even a Jardine-styled kick.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Attilla 0 #16 October 14, 2007 Randy's not done. Odds are he'll fight Fedor in M1, or whatever they decide to call M1's reincarnation. After that, if he's still fit and hungry, he'll come back to the UFC, this time earning more than Chuck. The interesting question for the UFC now is who gets to contend for the belt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klingeme 0 #17 October 17, 2007 QuoteSo what happens with the belt? I wasn't a devoted watcher when got t-boned on his bike. Do they just have the top 2 contenders fight for it? And, yes, that sucks but that guy is a true champion and at least he won't fall off the earth. I'm sure he'll go back to commentation. Maybe, He'll come back if some miracle brings Fedor to Ufc in the near future. The same thing that happened when Penn left as champ, they just have a fight with the 2nd and 3rd best guys to determine the "new" champ. Mark Klingelhoefer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klingeme 0 #18 October 17, 2007 QuoteBoring? the last few events have been PACKED with some of the best fights I have ever seen. They ARE too close together though, I can't afford to pay for them all. Do what I did and find a Bar where you can watch them for free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #19 October 17, 2007 I would but I'm not a barfly. Most of the bars I have ever ben to won't turn up the volume LOL. Frank Mir was the name I couldn't remember in an ealier post.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
