Fozz 0 #1 May 17, 2008 Robert Dunlop RIP http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/moto...es/7405075.stm John Fosgate "In the end, its always best to choose the hard right over the easy wrong." LouDiamond MB 4310 www.N3Racing.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #2 May 17, 2008 Quote Robert Dunlop RIP http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/moto...es/7405075.stm So don't ride motorcycles - skydive - It's saferI'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #3 May 17, 2008 Link didn't work for me. Our 17 YO daughter is going to a friend's funeral tomorrow. Young boy, senior in HS, got killed doing a solo crash on a motocross track.Yes, stick with skydiving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #4 May 17, 2008 this one should work The Dunlop family has a rich motorcycling history. The Isle of Mann is on next week, I'm sure there'll be a few glasses raise for the Dunlop brothersYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kschilk 0 #5 May 17, 2008 Try this.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/motorbikes/7403931.stm Here's a bio...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Dunlop Kinda' ironic...since I was on my way out to my garage, with a new set of Dunlop knobbies and somehow, felt compelled to stop and take a quick look at the forum. It's another sad loss to the sport but at least he went out, doing what he loved and probably....that's how he'd have wanted it. "T'was ever thus." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BikerBabe 0 #6 May 17, 2008 roadracing is actually more safe than any other form of motorcycle riding, in general. Roadracers wear full racing leathers (about 1/4 " thick) which includes armor protecting the spine, shoulders, knees, elbows, etc. Helmets are of course required (full face, heh), as well as heavy duty boots. Check out what your local motocross rider is wearing next time you see one. That being said, sometimes no amount of protective gear will prevent a fatality. From that article, it sounds like Dunlop's accident was exacerbated by another rider "clipping" him once he was down. If he had to crash, i'd much rather my hubby crash on the track than on the street or dirt. the vast majority of road race crashes end up with the rider standing up looking sheepish but walking away unharmed.Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
humanflite 0 #7 May 17, 2008 Quoteroadracing is actually more safe than any other form of motorcycle riding, in general. Roadracers wear full racing leathers (about 1/4 " thick) which includes armor protecting the spine, shoulders, knees, elbows, etc. Helmets are of course required (full face, heh), as well as heavy duty boots. Check out what your local motocross rider is wearing next time you see one. That being said, sometimes no amount of protective gear will prevent a fatality. From that article, it sounds like Dunlop's accident was exacerbated by another rider "clipping" him once he was down. If he had to crash, i'd much rather my hubby crash on the track than on the street or dirt. the vast majority of road race crashes end up with the rider standing up looking sheepish but walking away unharmed. That is a hard one to call...I used to ride motorcross at a national level and the vast majority of injuries were collarbones, dislocations etc Although I did know one poor dude who was left quadraplegic after a crash in practice. Only 16 YO as well :( Road racing on the other hand can have some nasty injuries but yes, they are falling on to tarmac witha lot of protection, but also at higher horizontal speed...but often from not as high up as a bad crosser crash due to the large jumps. The Dunlops were indeed legends. There is nothing as dangerous in motorsport as the Isle of Man TT races and other Real Road races IMHO though. These guys knew the risks, and died doing what they loved. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #8 May 17, 2008 Quoteroadracing is actually more safe than any other form of motorcycle riding, in general. Safer than track racing!? Trees, buildings and kerbstones Vs run-off areas, gravel traps and tyre walls?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #9 May 18, 2008 QuoteQuoteroadracing is actually more safe than any other form of motorcycle riding, in general. Safer than track racing!? Trees, buildings and kerbstones Vs run-off areas, gravel traps and tyre walls? Track racing is known as road racing , BB was referring to road tracks as opposed to dirt tracks. Two thingS make Road racing (NOT STREET RACING ) more safe than street racing, equipment is one thing but the other and more important thing is RUN OFF, It often not the fall that does the most damage, it's the deceleration from 200-300km/h to ZERO. hitting shit when you come off it way more painful than sliding through the kitty litter.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kschilk 0 #10 May 18, 2008 Obviously, he was catapulted over the bars and I can tell you from experience...impact velocity is multiplied several times over, in that situation....same with a hi-side. Most injuries in motorcycle racing (most any type), seem to be caused from being hit by your own, or someone else's bike. I think all racers learn to MLF (Motorcycle Landing Fall), pretty early on and that helps to reduce the damage, done on the initial impact....it's the secondary hits, that usually do you in."T'was ever thus." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #11 May 18, 2008 QuoteTrack racing is known as road racing , BB was referring to road tracks as opposed to dirt tracks. Well the terminology must differ across the pond because the NW200 calls itself a road race, and it is carried out on the road, not in a ciruit.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #12 May 18, 2008 Quote Quote Track racing is known as road racing , BB was referring to road tracks as opposed to dirt tracks. Well the terminology must differ across the pond because the NW200 calls itself a road race, and it is carried out on the road, not in a ciruit. Who cares what Bum fuck nowhere calls itYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #13 May 18, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Track racing is known as road racing , BB was referring to road tracks as opposed to dirt tracks. Well the terminology must differ across the pond because the NW200 calls itself a road race, and it is carried out on the road, not in a ciruit. Who cares what Bum fuck nowhere calls it Says a guy from Australia!?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #14 May 18, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Track racing is known as road racing , BB was referring to road tracks as opposed to dirt tracks. Well the terminology must differ across the pond because the NW200 calls itself a road race, and it is carried out on the road, not in a ciruit. Who cares what Bum fuck nowhere calls it Says a guy from Australia!? Absobloodylutely, Austtuckingfalia, The Lucky Country Lucky we are so far away from the YanksYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites