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elias123 0
I would never tip in an expensive restaurant. I'd only tip at places where you know that the waitresses don't earn much, because it's basically the only job an unschooled woman can get, and make a living on, reason of which is probably because of the tips. Then again I'm not American, so I could be wrong.
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QuoteUmm....my nephew is a waiter in a VERY nice Chicago restaurant, he made 90K last year!
Of course he did. You can bet that the salary of his average customer is well above 90k per year, which is why I threw that line into my post.
The other factor is the cost of living. 90k in Chicago is one thing, 90k in Topeka, Kansas is another. I've heard that dog walkers in NYC make 70k per year, but that's barely enough to split a one bedroom apartment with a roomate in NYC.
QuoteQuoteUmm....my nephew is a waiter in a VERY nice Chicago restaurant, he made 90K last year!
Of course he did. You can bet that the salary of his average customer is well above 90k per year, which is why I threw that line into my post.
The other factor is the cost of living. 90k in Chicago is one thing, 90k in Topeka, Kansas is another. I've heard that dog walkers in NYC make 70k per year, but that's barely enough to split a one bedroom apartment with a roomate in NYC.
You have a good point, however I'm betting quite a few making less than 90 eat there as well.
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mircan 0
QuoteQuoteCurrently, I think it's $7.25/hr. However, wait staff at restaurants, by legal exemption, don't get that much.
Seriously????
That little?????
WOW.... I'm stunned.... I mean I know about the minimum wage thing but not that it was THAT low.........
Hm, than you would be really shocked to know hom much is my hourly wage...
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And I`m college educated 
Here we tip at the restaurants and in places where wereally like the service. And most of the people leave the change...
dudeist skydiver #42
QuoteI would never tip in an expensive restaurant. I'd only tip at places where you know that the waitresses don't earn much,
Like I said above, because of the tips, restaurants are allowed to pay the wait staff something like $3 an hour. The rest of their income (aka all of it) comes from tips. $3 an hour is the same for every restaurant, regardless of the cost of the food.
Here's another thing to think about - waiters/waitresses get tips two ways, cash or added on to a credit card bill. When they get cash, it's theirs to keep, but they are supposed to report their earnings to the government and pay taxes on that income. Each waiter/waitress will report as much or as little of that cash as they want, and pay taxes on that amount.
When you add a tip to the credit card, the restaurant collects all of the money from the credit card company, and gives the waiter/waitress the cash amount of the tip. That income is now on record, and since the restaurant was involved in the process (with written records of it all), the restaurant will often times report that income and withold the taxes from the waiters next paycheck. So the $3 an hour gets used up paying taxes, and often times the 'paycheck' from the restautant is almost zero.
QuoteI'm betting quite a few making less than 90 eat there as well.
What? Financially irresponsible Americans living beyond their means? Surely you jest....
QuoteQuoteI'm betting quite a few making less than 90 eat there as well.
What? Financially irresponsible Americans living beyond their means? Surely you jest....
Wanna-be's tryin' to get laid...
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mrwrong 0
That sucks to hear mate....
Ever considered working abroad?????
That college education got to be worth even outside of the borders...
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Hellis 0
QuoteQuoteCurrently, I think it's $7.25/hr. However, wait staff at restaurants, by legal exemption, don't get that much.
Seriously????
That little?????
WOW.... I'm stunned.... I mean I know about the minimum wage thing but not that it was THAT low.........
thats the big difference between minimum wage and collective agreedments (the way we do it here).
minimum wage says one wage minimum for everyone, agreedments has different wages for different jobs.
mircan 0
QuoteThat sucks to hear mate....
Ever considered working abroad?????
That college education got to be worth even outside of the borders...
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Plus, I`m very good with "computers and stuff". Still, it`s very, very hard for us to get visas and papers for working in western world countries. It sucks. But if you want to sneak in on the tourist visa and work under the table...
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dudeist skydiver #42
CazmoDee 3
Most restaurants/bars now report tips for the employee at about 11 or 12 percent of sales, regardless of what was actually received. A tipped employee's taxes are based on those reported tips. Tip less than 10% and it actually costs a server/bartender to serve you.....The days of unreported income in the service industry have slowly been coming to and end......
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Hellis 0
QuoteMost restaurants/bars now report tips for the employee at about 11 or 12 percent of sales, regardless of what was actually received. A tipped employee's taxes are based on those reported tips. Tip less than 10% and it actually costs a server/bartender to serve you.....The days of unreported income in the service industry have slowly been coming to and end......
i thought about that too, if you get the tip in cash, how does that work with pension or unemployment funds?
maybe that is completly different from here, but here both pension and unemployment funds are based on your income, so working under the table has a very negative effect on those parts.
EDIT: if your employer does not report the tips as you said
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People you don't tip - ..... cops, etc.
Been to Mexico lately?
Quotebut it's always less than the people who are giving them the tips.
I wish I got a tip from every tandem passenger who makes more than me.
JohnMitchell 14
I been told in locales where the waiters and waitresses are paid below minimum wage, their IRS wage and earnings statements assume they make at least minimum wage in tips. For example, if you're paid $4 an hour, and minimum is $7.25, the IRS will tax you as if you made $3.25 an hour in tips. That's huge.
These days everyone seems to have their hand out. Even my favorite fast food places have the ubiquitous tip jar. I'm waiting for the practice to show up in the grocery store checkout line.
In China, they've discovered the tip as well. I remember the tour guide walking up and down the bus aisle with a list on her clipboard, making sure everyone had paid their tips to the bellhops at the hotel before we left in the morning. It didn't seem to matter to them that everyone's luggage was still sitting in the hallways of the hotel, uncollected and certainly not on the bus. They were going to get their tips.
JohnMitchell 14
Fixed it for you.QuoteI wish I got a tip from every tandem passenger who weighs more than me.
When I made the mistake of taking a vacation in the Bahamas once, (and only once), the tip was included in the bill. And after experiencing the worst service I had ever seen, it was obvious that was the only way they could ever get tips.
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