bdbrown 0 #1 September 9, 2004 Does anybody know roughly how many man hrs are put into building a new container? -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityGirl 0 #2 September 10, 2004 When I worked for a manufacturer it was always a combo of man and woman hours, so.... ....no. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GraficO 0 #3 September 10, 2004 good one Bon GraficOGraficO "A Mind is a terrible thing to taste." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdbrown 0 #4 September 10, 2004 QuoteWhen I worked for a manufacturer it was always a combo of man and woman hours, so.... ....no. ok people hrs -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 4 #5 September 10, 2004 roughly 8 I'd say. But that assumes all the patterns are made, and all the builder has to do is cut and sew, and that they know what they are doing--i.e., they have done it before. Why, are you thinking of making a rig? -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdbrown 0 #6 September 10, 2004 I can't sew a button on a shirt must less make a rig....just curious -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KellyF 16 #7 September 10, 2004 Quoteroughly 8 I'd say. Roughly four times that Even if the patterns are made and the people know what they are doing. Different designs may require more or less time, depending on parts count and construction methods. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 561 #8 September 10, 2004 QuoteQuoteroughly 8 I'd say. Roughly four times that Even if the patterns are made and the people knows what they are doing. Different designs may require more or less time, depending on parts count and construction methods. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In comparison, when I worked at Butler Parachute Systems, it took us between 16 and 24 hours to make a pilot emergency harness container. PEPs only contain one canopy and are much simpler than skydiving rigs. Time varied widely depending upon the complexity of the harness (how many adjusters), AADs, static-lines, etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #9 September 10, 2004 You might call or e-mail one of the manufacturer's and ask them. I would guess at 6 - 8 days. Again, as mentioned in a previous post, depending on the order. Harness' are made separately (of course) and the container is constructed. Along the way, are a series of inspections leading up to final inspections. Templates are used and the pieces hot-knifed. It is an 'assembly - line' type operation. If, you are ever in the vicinity of one of the manufacturer's, stop by or call. Some if not all, have 'tours'. I haven't checked lately but, Rigging Innovations in Eloy (does/did). It is a really interesting process. There's a lot of work and time involved. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billbooth 10 #10 September 10, 2004 The pieces-parts ( risers, toggles, pilot chutes, etc.) take longer to make than the rig itself. I used to be able to make a Vector I (no pieces) in about 8 hours by myself. However, Vector III's take considerably longer. And please remember the time it takes to take the order, phone people to correct errors, write a correct production order, set up the embroidery, inspect, and ship. All of this adds up to well over 40 hours. And don't tell me rigs are too expensive. My bill for employee health insurance and Workman's comp combined is over $330,000, and then come the lawyers and accountants. You have to make a lot of rigs to make up for these, and many other expences, that have nothing to do with actually making the rig itself. How I long for the old days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f1freak 0 #11 September 10, 2004 Bill is right on the money, I could have never imagined how many separate pieces go into a modern rig.... it would be so different if we made rigs like they make cars... you know, they have huge batches that are identical. For the most part all of the rigs we make are different (teams are the exception). I have a new view for modern rigs now...HAVE FUN... ...JUST DONT DIE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #12 September 11, 2004 Thank you, Bill! I guess, I could've been more specific rather than being brief. I think, you've given us all some real insight into what it takes. I don't believe, I've ever said rigs were too expensive. I fully understand what is involved. When I was working on my Master's certificate, at Sandy Reid's, I got the 'nickel tour'. Costs on everything rise. I know that, on just a minor scale. It's strange, I don't hear many complaints about the increased cost of a new pick-up! Long for the old days? You and me Both! Thank you, again. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggermick 6 #13 September 12, 2004 QuoteDoes anybody know roughly how many man hrs are put into building a new container? I've found a great thread on this subject but I'm having trouble making a link to it. Can anyone tell me how to accomplish this task? Thanks. Mick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #14 September 12, 2004 click on the "copy shortcut" from under the posters name that you want to link to. Click the URL button just under the text box to type in, paste the address, click the URL botton again Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 0 #15 September 12, 2004 Find the thread. Under the name of the person who's post you wish to present first, click on "Copy Shortcut" Come back here, click the URL button Hit ctrl V to paste the link in Click on /url It will be a clicky link Then look Here for more info Edit... well I'm a bit slow aren't I? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggermick 6 #16 September 13, 2004 Quoteclick on the "copy shortcut" from under the posters name that you want to link to. Click the URL button just under the text box to type in, paste the address, click the URL botton again Ok I'm not doing something right. I can't get the link to work, the "url" button doesn't seem to do anything. The link address appears in the message but doesn't activate when the curser is moved over it. I've tried it several times and had to delete it each tine as it doesn't work, am I missing a step or two? BTW right click gives the option "create shortcut" not copy shortcut, any difference? Mick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggermick 6 #17 September 13, 2004 QuoteQuoteclick on the "copy shortcut" from under the posters name that you want to link to. Click the URL button just under the text box to type in, paste the address, click the URL botton again Ok I'm not doing something right. I can't get the link to work, the "url" button doesn't seem to do anything. The link address appears in the message but doesn't activate when the curser is moved over it. I've tried it several times and had to delete it each tine as it doesn't work, am I missing a step or two? BTW right click gives the option "create shortcut" not copy shortcut, any difference? Mick. Hope this works. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=859279#859279[/url] [url] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #18 September 13, 2004 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=859279#859279 Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggermick 6 #19 September 13, 2004 Quotehttp://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=859279#859279 yeah that's how it's supposed to work. thanks. Mick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
