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NickDG

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Let us know how they respond.
Still also don't agree with the 'death camp' denomination. Some BASE jumpers may think differently but whenever I (and most other people)hear the term, the names Auchwitz and the like come to mind. To me BASE and National Socialism should have nothing to do with each other.
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BASE does have it's share of pranksters doing daft things off objects for the glory or for the notoriety but again, I've seen the pogo sticks, skateboards and stilts pranks off el cap in the day. They weren't done in the name of scientific discovery or progress were they.
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I seem to recall they had ropes attached so the objects didn't plunge down the side of the cliff and knock climbers off the wall. After they went they just pulled them back up.
If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead.
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way to go Corliss... get the ball rolling for us all.



Way to go for an old fart that doesn't like base to make it illegal. In a democratic country this shouldn't be happening! Where's the American freedom here, when an individual can be prosecuted for doing something another individual doesn't agree with?
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In a democratic country this shouldn't be happening!



The US has never been a democracy. It's a representative republic. We elect which set of dictators we want every couple of years, and if they piss us off too badly, we vote someone else in next time, or in the case of abraham lincoln and JFK, somebody shoots their ass and expedites the process.

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We must come together and fight this. This man must be stopped. We must send as many letters from as many people as possible. I am so sorry everyone, this is not how any of this was suppose to go down. This is is a fight for freedom in a country that's motto is land of the free...

Jeb Corliss



http://www.senatorgolden.com/contact_info.asp

golden@senate.state.ny.us



So you go and day blaze the Empire State Building (only the biggest icon building in NYC) at rush hour traffic in our post 9/11 environment that we now live in, and and you think we should now come together to stop what was inevitable by your selfish actions? We didn't seem to matter to you when you executed your plan.

How did you think it was going to go down? Do you think if you had made the jump that the NY authorities would have thought, "neato"? Do you think that they would have looked the other way? Do you think the media would have revered you as a hero?

Think back to how the NY city mayor responded to Thor Alex and a russian jumper when they jumped some high profile buildings in NY in 1999. He ordered the police to crack down on BASE jumpers. Even if you had gotten away, at the very least you would have made New York City HOT (as in burnage).

But you ended up getting busted and you got yourself a high priced attorney to fight a misdemeanor charge. What did you think was going to happen if you beat the charges? Remember back when Hank Caylor had a building strike in Denver and was also charged with reckless endangerment. He also beat the charges BUT as a result Denver passed a law that specifically made BASE illegal in Denver. Someone also got busted in Atlantic City and it resulted in a law being passed that made BASE jumping illegal there with a very stiff fine. With this history, how could you not know that they might pass a new law?

So I ask again, how did you think it was going to go down? What did you think would happen if you beat the charges like you did? After you were acquitted, even your own lawyer said this in the paper
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“I mean, it’s shocking,” Mr. Heller said. “I would assume that somebody is now going to go to the Legislature and say, ‘Hey, we have a little hole in our book here; we’ve got to plug it up.’ ”


article link: http://www.talknyc.net/jumping-off-the-empire-state-building-now-allowed/

There are more BASE jumpers in this country that do not post online then those that do. The silent majority is very unhappy about your actions. You don't have a good track record either as you have day blazed other objects to get your picture in the paper so you can be famous. But at least you got to promote your 3triple7 shirts.

You are a glory seeker who has disregard the welfare of local BASE communities just like John Vincent and Felix have. John Vincent was tared and feathered for it. But now since you have set into motion concerns with the New York authorities that will most likely result in a new law (like your own attorney predicted), you actually want us to back you.

I sure hope they don't pass this law for our sakes, not yours. Even if a new law does not come about you have still irreversibly hurt the American BASE scene. I will keep making some jumps in a stealthy way, but the bust factor will be more risky. And the next time a glory seeker day blazes a high profile object, the authorities will consider your fiasco in dealing with it then too. If it ends up being a felony like it's proposed to be and a BASE jumper is out doing a low profile stealthy jump (like how Bs should be done) and ends up getting busted, instead of just getting charged with a misdemeanor, he will have a life changing felony on his record. It will mean he can't even vote.

I agree with Mr. Heller that they will probably plug the legal loophole in NY. If jumpers want to help fight this then they should push for it to be no more than a misdemeanor. The idea that they will just drop it because BASE jumpers say BASE is safe or that there are laws already on the books that will cover these acts is delusional. Mr. Heller himself has shown them that the current laws are not sufficient for the law enforcers to stop what they perceive to be illegal.

Mr Corliss, I read your comments in reply to this article
http://www.brooklyngraphic.com/site/tab6.cfm?newsid=17829722&brd=2384&pag=461&dept_id=552852

One more thing Jeb, can you please not make it any worse by making arrogant statements like this
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Lets try to help people who really need it. But if you think you can use fear to control me, well you need to think about the person you are dealing with. I jump off buildings and dive with man eating sharks. How scared of you do you really think I am...





I remember a time when BASE jumpers maintained a harmony with the police. We stay stealthy and most of them didn't care that we jumped.

Your right Nick, those days are over.
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Golden’s law would create a class D felony for reckless endangerment for any individual jumping off a typical BASE structure five floors or higher.




no rocket man either. :|


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Glad to see a base jumper post what I have been wanting to say for a longtime, when I saw the news story about this, I couldn't believe someone could be so fucking stupid to try that B in a post 9-11 world, and in the daytime at that. When news reported there was a tipoff I didn't think much of it, now I'm thinking Jeb was telling someone, and they thought "what a fuckhead, he's going bring the heat on all of us seeking glory" and they dropped a dime on him. But look at the bright he got all the free publicity for the his show and base jumping at the same time, maybe base can be mainstreamed next...:S
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Is a night jump possible for that particular object? I doubt it. Maybe it was supposed to be a stunt junkies episode, that was based on the fact that if it didn't work out they had to fire him and deny everything. Do you think he put up all the money for everything? Fat suit, camera's, man hours. Maybe?
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Is a night jump possible for that particular object?



No, unless you could find a hideout till after close.

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Maybe it was supposed to be a stunt junkies episode,



With all the money they spend to do some of the lame things they do, why not just spend enough to do the E legit as a show then? For the right price everything is for sale in NYC. (or anywhere for that matter) But all this time I wondered what most basers thought of this, seems there are some who think cool and some that think what a fucknut. I'm in the second camp.
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>>Is a night jump possible for that particular object?<<

I made reference to this in a thread sometime back, and nobody seemed to pick up on it . . .

ESB Observation Deck Hours:
Open daily 365 days a year.
Sunday - Wednesday 8:00 am to Midnight. Last elevators go up at 11:15 pm.
Thursday - Saturday 8:00 am to 2:00 am. Last elevators go up at 1:15 am.

There is also a clue buried (sort of) in the BASE Fatality List if you read closely enough . . .

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Obviously his plan wasn't that great since security was able to handcuff him to the rail, but I figure if his plan was good enough to get on and off without much notice, and daytime was the only time possible, then it would have been cool as hell.

As far as stunt junkies, maybe the stunt was to show how a base jumper would approach an object, anylize acesss and the jump and then perform that. Buying the access doesn't really work for most of us.

From what Nick says it sounds like there are definitely better times to do it. My choice would be a Thursday night.
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if his plan was good enough to get on and off without much notice, and daytime was the only time possible, then it would have been cool as hell.



Jumping off the empire state building in downtown new york during rush hour... with security already chasing his ass.. yea... sounds like nobody wouldve been the wiser..... :S

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As far as stunt junkies, maybe the stunt was to show how a base jumper would approach an object, anylize acesss and the jump and then perform that. Buying the access doesn't really work for most of us.



and why would you possibly care if people understand how we analyze and access objects? so you can feel like a fucking james bond ninja? congratulations, now they'll know how we do it...


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I don't care if people know how Jeb planned on accessing the ESB, because it shouldn't take a fucking james bond ninja. For all I know he could have gone right to the top with his rig in a bag and hopped off only having to worry about potentially landing in traffic and then hooking up with his ground crew.
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I don't care if people know how Jeb planned on accessing the ESB, because it shouldn't take a fucking james bond ninja. For all I know he could have gone right to the top with his rig in a bag and hopped off only having to worry about potentially landing in traffic and then hooking up with his ground crew.



You are utterly clueless about the topic on which you have chosen to expound.
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and u have how many base jumps gold smith my be off his rocker but at least he base jumps



I groundcrewed Thor Alex's jump.

Oh wait. That wasn't your question. I have five jumps from NRGB. No big deal.

But I still know more about the ESB than Mr. Goldsmith.

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