Emma

Dude...for some reason, I would love to see that. Call me sick but...oh, you do... ps 'Septics' = Septic tank = yank

OK, so what's the pay like? Could it pay for a skydiving addiction AND high heels?

Er...yes...I know...it's a *quaint* old English expression of general dissatisfaction...Ya damn crazy Septics...pfft

Bugger. I expected as much.

So...if we have 'special' brains, maybe that explains why we are all alcoholic, single freaks who find every job in the coroprate world as dull as ditchwater? I feel better already! :)

Ring Skyventure, I'm sure they'll give you a quote :) http://www.skyventure.com

WITH SKREAMER'S BUTT-BOIL GEL ON IT! U sick puppy.

Does anyone have one? If so wtf is it, because I am going out of my tiny, office-based mind! Fanks now.

I only have them of Skreamer's butt, would anyone care to see? Only because he asked me to lance a boil on there a while ago. Of course I had to wear a full bodyglove made of industrial strength, Nasa tested PVC. Even so I nearly drowned. It was more than the call of duty, I can tell you.

BORING TROLL YAWN!

Bugger! That is quite funny though, if it's true...Nice one Ivan, not bad for a cameraman... Obviously a wise move to bin that other bloke on tail...

Thread seems to be a little off course? Congrats to the Seth Effrikkan freak, I only hope he doesn't find too many mountain goats in pursuit of his new cliff-dropping passion, no doubt it will distract him from his goal somewhat. But at least he can now combine the two passions in one I spose....mmeeeaaahhhhhh

ANDI!!!! Bugger, that really SUCKS! Hope it was a clean break and that it heals at record speed. I am really gutted for you, was hoping to catch up with you at Nationals. Damn damn damn! There are some supplments and stuff you can take to help the healing, Vitamin c is a good one, glucosamine sulphate, horsetail (ick) and aloe vera juice (get the best you can find, try to get it from Forever Living Products if you can). My ex smashed his ankle really badly but amazed the doctors at how fast he healed, we think the supplements helped. Emma

The world has gone crazy. It's similar to that story a couple of weeks ago about women being able to change their minds halfway through sex and then say it was rape...I think abuse by women of sexual harrassment laws is as bad as the sexual harrassment of women in the first place. No wonder men are confused. Mind you, we don't really get it so much over here. I used to work in the city (London financial sector) and my boss used to slap his thighs and say (to me) 'Come over 'ere you saucy little minx'. Hmmm. Whilst not a classy approach, I don't think he meant any harm; it's just that the office 'banter' sometimes got a bit extreme. It didn't bother me because I knew he was just taking the piss, and he wouldn't have done it to someone with..er...heightened sensitivity. Any icy look always stopped him in his tracks anyway. Then again, the same company did actually sack a guy for sexual harrassment after he bad-mouthed a less senior woman who refused to sleep with him. I think perhaps more so in the UK we have open office flirtation and it's part of how people communicate with one another. Sometimes I think people are too used to whinging about everyday facets of life, and exploit rules that are designed to protect. This invalidates and trivialises real sexual harrassment issues.

This is also totally messed up because it trivialises REAL rape and abuse cases. If this is supposed to be a step forward for feminism then I can no longer say I'm a feminist. It used to be about equality - now it's about power OVER men. Political correctness is an evil all of its own. I can't believe this will actually go through. It's scary for everyone.

This is awful. I can't even begin to imagine the abuses that will be made of this new legislation. A tough time to be a man.

I used to share your views, but I have come to the conclusion that although I feel that I have the ability to take control, and that I can achieve anything I want in my life (I really do believe that), I don't know what it's like to be someone else, so I can't apply my beliefs to their life. Never judge an Indian until you've walked a mile in their shoes, as they say. I am not attacking you, Luna, I enjoy your debate. Maybe later in life I'll change my views again, who knows where experience may take me?

I am no big fan of the victim ('poor-me')/ blame ('and it's all YOUR FAULT') culture either. However I think your view is simplistic. Yes, the mind is a powerful tool - infinitely powerful. However, Luna, I think your point demonstrates that not everyone is able to cope with the same circumstances equally well. Some members of society are not as strong, or as resilient, as others. Who is to say that those who coped well as POWs had not had marvellous, supportive childhoods, and those who did not cope as well, had not been abused as children (to use an extreme example) or at the very least, suffered from lower self-esteem for whatever reason. We are products of our experiences and our genes, and while we do have a certain amount of control over how we react to our experiences, not everyone has the same amount of control. We are not all the same, we are not all dealt the same hand. Your stance implies that choice over how we react to the events which unfold in our lives is infinite. I do not believe that it is. This is the core of our disagreement, and there is no way of proving it one way or another. There is no such thing as 'Absolute Truth' - no black and white but shades of grey. I think the damaging implications of some posts on here are that depressed people are in some way to blame for their condition and that they should really 'take control' and 'get a grip'. Unfortunately this seems insulting, insensitve and naive, regardless of your good intentions; compassion requires us to be a little less judgemental and a little more flexible in our approach to others.

My (now dead) cat used to squat over the (human) toilet if she was caught short and couldn't get out. Weird. My (still alive - amazingly) new cat is retarded and eats spinach and lettuce as a preference over raw meat. He brings in 'sacrificial' plants, leaves and twigs rather than mice. Sometimes he jumps at the wall after a shadow and almost knocks himself out. It's the cats that are mad...not us.

Don't thank me honey, by all accounts you aren't depressed either so my 'concern' doesn't apply to you. Lucky old you.

Er..yeh..except I'm not worried about myself, I'm concerned that your ignorant 'get off your meds' statement might be taken seriously by potentially suicidal people who feel fine on their meds and think 'Hey, if I try this, who needs meds?' I smile a lot and I am not suicidal, or depressed, thanks for your concern though.

Rhino, you entitled your thread 'Would you like to end your depression? Get off medication?' This is an entirely rhetorical question, for depressed people. Truly depressed people don't enjoy it. You are confusing clinical depression with 'being a bit down'. You can't go around telling people to get off their meds. It's something many depressed people do because they 'feel better' (due to the meds working) and then discover they can't cope. This can often end in tragedy, so I suggest you think a little more carefully before handing out your ill-considered advice. My father 'got off his meds' because he felt better and gassed himself in a car. I don't think any amount of smiling into the rear view mirror would have made a difference.

ROFLMAO.....

Advising depressed people to 'get off their meds' is highly irresponsible, regardless of the 'alternative' therapy you suggest.

Hmmm...smiling does make me feel better. But then again I'm not clinically depressed.