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And as long as they are registered and show up to the polls, they are will be still for Bush or Kerry, not matter how moronic they may sound! "Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all." -- Helen Keller

To further your point on this line of thought.. How many of these conscientious objectors fail to show up to the polls and try to vote and change things? We all love to gripe about the government and how it should be changed and what a lousy job this one or that one does... I've heard so many people complain that their vote doesn't really count.. As far as the troops in the field, it's very true.. Look at history, the men and women from Vietnam are prime examples... We may not agree with what's going on but support the men and women doing their jobs.. Not running away from them... "Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all." -- Helen Keller

From the moment we stepped onto the DZ Steve Boyd and his staff made us feel welcome. We were immediately embraced by the jumpers and asked to join jumps despite the lack of experience some in our group had. The groups we've jumped with have made the low timers feel welcome and provided a learning atmosphere for the inexperienced as well as the experienced. It's an awesome DZ with a lot of terrific people.

One of my points exactly. Or even better yet, how about all the people who joined the military because they could get a "free" education through GI Bills and other govermental aid? So many began protesting having to do the jobs they were trained and being paid for. But I am getting way off subject. I don't like the idea of a draft, I have a 14 year old son, but should he ever be called up I'm pretty sure he'd serve his country. Not a President, or specific Congress and sure as heck hopefully not the UN.. (another story) "Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all." -- Helen Keller

Jim, I knew I liked you for more than skydiving skills! I totally agree "One final point. Many members of the military unfortnately have to serve in third world countries where the respect for life is nil, filth, disease and corruption abound. After living under these conditions, it makes you angry when you return to the states and find that most Americans don't appreciate what they have and the sacrifices it takes to maintain their way of life." One of my biggest pet peeves is that because the military has to be so politically correct all the time to satisfy the bureaucrats and the general public, our women and men are over in other countries getting killed right and left. Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with things like Abu Graib (sp) and killing of innocent bystanders... No civilized person does... Yet we are in a war! (Despite the fact it supposedly ended over a year ago) Another soapbox is, okay so if these countries hate us "Americans" so darned much, why do they come here to seek out all the privileges and "excesses" they say they despise?? That's a whole new can of worms! "Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all." -- Helen Keller

True, but there are places for everyone from the cooks, to the chaplains to the infantry men to the tank drivers. They are all a very integral part of the team. Having the inside track on the military tends to open your eyes. Toby Keith's song "American Soldier" speaks of the sacrifice these men and women pay every day of the year. "Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all." -- Helen Keller

Being associated with the military, being married to a former military officer who has served in Bosnia and Iraq, and Iraq as a civilian with the Army, this is a subject that always gets my blood boiling. People in this nation need to look at all the liberties/freedoms they have and look who has stood by to protect those freedoms. These soldiers all are fighting for us to keep our freedoms. Until 9-11 this country didn't have a clue what it was to live in fear every time they got on an airplane, got on a bus, or walked down the street. That's why our men and women are in Iraq fighting, even if they don't agree with everything they have to do. It's to keep the fight over there instead of the streets here. My grandfather served in WWII and never was the same person after returning, but he was proud to serve his country and was buried in his dress uniform. Sorry to rant and rave, as I said strong passions and opinions about draft dodgers. "Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all." -- Helen Keller

Thanks! I figured out once I read Omniskore and am still ticked about it.. Ridiculous when the judges steal a competition away from true competitors and champions. "Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all." -- Helen Keller

Hey Jim, I've been watching all the scoring. The final scoring shows the wrong scores? I added up USA#1 and I got the total of 56.3 putting them in 2nd? P.S. We will be back to Spaceland next weekend! Laura (Went checked Omniskore... What a crock... And they wonder why we don't trust judging?) "Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all." -- Helen Keller