Deyan

rehmwa

I know I can send my expired Cypres in for trade in. or someone will buy it.

But is the cutter still good? Should I sell it separately? What's it worth?

I have questions,,,,lots of questions

The Cypres cutter has a life time of 15 years. It must receive a check every 4 years in order to stay airworthy.

The 15 years life time info comes from a factory tour I did in 2011. I can't find any written info about that, so you can consider that as a"rumor"!

The answer on your other question you can check here:
http://www.cypres.cc/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=153&Itemid=104&lang=en

Based on that, I'd say it's worth 30 $

Alexg3265

I've been wondering... Why not a row of grommets instead of tape edged holes.

Maybe because rubber bands don't really like grommets when the temperature goes up ( like the rig left in the trunk scenario )

Southern_Man

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Probably no Collins Lanyard either on Mirage TRAP.

I am going by memory but I believe the Collins Lanyard is not available to license separatelt from the Skyhook.

Yes, trap is a terrible name for anything involving a canopy.

Nobody will pack it until some instructions are available.


I don't think it will take long before that patent expire. I could be wrong of course.
What I don't get is why the other manufacturers are not building their rigs with spit housings?! After that it's easy to "retrofit" even on the field

hookitt

***Just ignore the flap when you pack FF handle. They don't work together .

That is almost correct but not really.

It is false!

The flap fits between the handle and canopy material. The handle is attached on each of the handle ends. There is a flap size slot for the flap to pass through.

I have one at home but I'm a day away from being able to take a picture. If none are posted before then, I'll take one and post it.

If my info comes from the manufacturer, could it really be "false" ? And is it possible that they have changed the design at some point?! So we both could be "wrong" or "right" at the same time!
Think about it

riggerrob

Over the years we have heard 3 different opinions about bridle length on free-bags.

Circa 2000, Bill Booth told us that you only need a 13 foot bridle to correctly sequence a Skyhook MARD.

Just a little correction Rob. It's 12 ft total. 5 ft between the RPC and the Skyhook and 7 ft between the Skyhook and the free bag.

Hi Jerry,

I think you forgot to multiple the listed weight X 1.2

Hi Jerry,

From the manual:

Smart 99, 110, 120, 135 are listed as 220lbs max. exit weight
Smart 150, 160, 175, 190, 220 are listed as 265 max exit weight
Smart 250 is listed as 300 lbs max. exit weight.

Based on those numbers, the dummy weigh should've been no less than 264 lbs. on the small sizes and 318 lbs on the sizes till 220 sq ft.

Am I correct, or did I miss something?

JerryBaumchen

Hi Deyan,

Nice work.

Here is the Techno values in lbs:

Techno 115 - 2100 daN = 4721 lbs
Techno 128 - 1520 daN = 3417 lbs
Techno 140 - 2100 daN = 4721 lbs
Techno 155 - 2160 daN = 4856 lbs
Techno 190 - 1260 daN = 2832 lbs
Techno 240C- 1120daN = 2518 lbs

The converter is here:

http://www.convertunits.com/from/daN/to/pound-force

OK, more info to keep track of.

Jerry Baumchen

Hi Jerry,

I posted the numbers the way they were written on the data label, so people can see that even something so simple like writing data can be left for interpretation from the manufactures. Pounds, Decanewtons, G's....you name it

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To get the Smart values in lbs you will need to know some more info on the weight of the drop test dummy.

I would guess that would be the max weight on the label X 1.2

Cheers

Just ignore the flap when you pack FF handle. They don't work together .

Here is what's written on the Techno reserves. The only missing size is 98, but I have never seen that size reserve in my life. Maybe they have made only 2 canopies from it :)

Techno 115 - 2100 daN
Techno 128 - 1520 daN
Techno 140 - 2100 daN
Techno 155 - 2160 daN
Techno 190 - 1260 daN
Techno 240C- 1120daN

Some other reserves

PDR 113 - 3639 lbs
Optimum 106 - 3951
Optimum 126- 3951
Optimum 218 - 2123
Smart 120 - 5.36 G
Smart 190 - 5.59 G

Few years back I did collect all that info because I thought that it's interesting to know. Then I find out that it's actually pretty useless since stuff don't fail on their "average" force. Then my computer crashed and I didn't care to recover that info.

Some other things to think about. Decelerator reserve from 2003 ( I think) it's TSO C23d tested , but doesn't have any average force written on the label.
Maybe there are more TSO C23d items without that info printed.

I hope any of that helps

It's called a "Daisy chain"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhzdCzFp9aY

Cheers

skydiverek

***I recently thought the openings couldn't get softer and slower but have put about 100 jumps on a chilli 130 and that bad boy opens WAY slower/softer than the pilot

What canopy is that?

This
http://www.flyfirebird.com/fb/downloads/manuals/chilli.pdf

Status- discontinued. That's all you need to know

billvon

Well, IIRC TS-104 was just a study, not a "standard" or anything - and was intended primarily to measure canopy pack volume, not area.

That's correct Bill!

But as far as I know, all of the canopies listed in that document were measured the same way in order to get the most accurate info on how big/small certain canopies are in regard to packing volume and surface area.

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All it says about area is "measure chord and span" which of course is only really accurate for rectangular parachutes

Since we are talking about reserve canopies here, I'd say the chart is quite accurate.

My point was, everybody is saying that certain canopy is smaller than what's written on the label because is measured differently than the PD canopies! Well, PD it's not a standard
The canopy is as big as the company that made it say it is! The only way to find out if you like it is.....jump it!

Cheers

gunneroy

***What are your thoughts on the Icarus Nano or PD Optimum reserves?

I know of some Icarus sponsored athletes that were told to get PDR/OP's over nano's by the company.(by NZ)
Make of that what you will.

Icarus Canopies sponsored or NZ Aerosports sponsored? There's a big difference!

lyosha

***Speed 2000. It is TSO'ed, and you can put size 190 into freebag for size 143.

http://www.paratec.de/en/products-parachutes/57-2/

Speed 2000 square footage is measured differently from PD/Icarus and is misleading. That 190 is substantially smaller than a 190 Opt or Nano. Anecdotal evidence suggests it may be smaller than 176 as well. Similar to how a Pilot 190 is larger than a Safire/Sabre2 190 because the square footage is measured differently.


Can we reverse that and say that the canopy size info from PD and Icarus is misleading, giving the customers the wrong idea about their canopy size?! Because the PDR 176 is actually 189 sq.ft!

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You may think you're buying a 190, but really you're getting a 176 or maybe even 160.

What you are getting is actually a 190 canopy measured according to the PIA TS-104.

mcordell

From what I have read, that can be stronger than a bartack

A bartack doesn't add anything to the strength. It just keeps the line fingertraped when there's no load.

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and would be less labor intensive

I don't know anyone who can do 30+ stitchless fingertraps faster than a person hitting the pedal on a bartacker......

I've done this fingertap magic once on a field repair... on my canopy... on a lower st. line. Worked out fine. I don't have experience with this on the cascades.

likestojump

Anyone else care to provide facts as opposed to pulling statements out of their ass ? :)

Like this one?

Some time ago I saw a reserve approved for 10 repacks or 6 jumps.

Cheers

mark

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Hoping that I'm not helping a terrorist... (fill out your profile, give your real name to be polite)

Is that really needed? Just because this person is not from America does not mean they are a terrorist.]

Maybe the "terrorist" part is unfair, but it did seem strange to me that the applicant was willing to travel anywhere in the world except the US.


Mark

Troubles getting the visa?!

1. Have somebody measure you according to the Sun Path guidelines.

http://sunpath.com/support/measuring-guide.html

2. Send your measurements together with the serial # of the rig you are interested in buying to Sun Path and see what they have to say.

3. Hope that the harness in question wasn't resized meanwhile.

4. Typing with the caps lock on is considered to be offensive .

irishrigger

the most important question is why would you want a combo like that?

I can't answer for the OP, but if I start jumping accuracy, that's exactly the combo I'm gonna get. 100-ish reserve and 250-260 main. Packing volume and comfort. That's it

It's possible. Call Nancy from Jump Shack. They can make you almost any combination you can think of

councilman24

It's also from a shop in the Netherlands but couldn't quite figure out whether it's Jo's shop or another.

The Parachute Case

mark

******Refresh my memory: which manufacturers were these?

Mark

Altico and Mirage. From my memory! I'm lazy to search the SB's so I could be wrong !


I don't recall Altico/Dolphin or Sunrise/Wings ever "approving" an AAD in the way that, say, UPT or RI has. They just said they weren't in the AAD approval business. That's Basik's and Mirage's current position also (and maybe VSE/Infinity as well?). And that's different than saying those manufacturers had no issues or concerns.

Mark

Hi Mark,

Look at the following SB.

This is from the PSB03-11 from Mirage

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SUBJECT: Suspension of approval for the installation and use of an Aviacom SA/NV ARGUS®
AAD in Mirage Systems, Inc. harness and container assemblies.

So apparently at some point Argus was approved in Mirage H&C
Thanks Jerry for fixing my laziness

Cheers

mark

Refresh my memory: which manufacturers were these?

Mark

Altico and Mirage. From my memory! I'm lazy to search the SB's so I could be wrong !

Cheers

theQ

so why is not entirely banned is if is that bad! I just read some posts from 2011 about Argus equipped rigs being grounded.

It is! In many countries and some US DZs!