Darius11

I understand what you mean, greater good and all that. Sometimes you can't question, and a lot of times people do not have the time to paint the whole picture to everyone. Sometimes they don't want share all the info to assure a better chance at success. I get it I get what every one is saying also, but I do feel it's a bit in the gray area. I probably like him because he helped expose murder. I like it any time peoples perfect white and black perception of the world turns a bit grayer (more real). So I have my bias on him. Pretty sure I would feel very angry if I believed all the bull shit "we stand for freedom, were the good guys, we only kill bad guys" and then saw a video of our guys murdering children and enjoying it. So I understand his action better then the legality of it. Personally I usually don't care much for the law I know right from wrong and that's all that matters to me. I know that is not how the courts work, and unfortunately many minds work like the courts. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Is this not the oath you guys bring up. If it is I see it is very smartly written with loyalty to the constitution as the highest priority. I see it as this; if you officer gives you an order that you know to be unconstitutional you should not follow the order. That takes more integrity and balls then blindly following what ever your told, and I think that's why it is written the way it is. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

So showing our solders murdering civilians things that would have otherwise not been shown, exposing war crimes is not whistle blowing? I think people are pretending to know what his options were when they don't, and people also are under the impression that if these actions were broth to a supervisors something would have been done. I don't agree with either of those assumptions. I know the military will hide most actions that will show us in a bad light so will the politicians. IF you look at other documentaries "this is what wining looks like" comes to mind just because I recently watched it you will see how a blind eye is turned to many things. To me he exposed war crimes the only way he could, to a source he trusted would go public with it. I also do not believe for one second that the government would have come forward with any of the things he exposed willingly. To me he is a hero and he has spent over a 1000 days in solitary confinement. The other important issue is this. If the judge decides that yes leaking information that can be seen by enemies of the state is considered treason then bye bye freedom of the press, what's left of it any way. I do not think that's good for any freedom loving person. If things are made public that means the public including enemies will have access to it. You should not go to jail forthat IMO That's the bigger picture. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

http://www.smh.com.au/world/is-he-a-whistle-blower-or-traitor-20130601-2nigm.html I hope people realize how important this case is for the freedoms we hold dear. There is a huge picture here which everyone should see. He will be a hero in 20 years and the people who prosecuted him the villains. It would be nice if we would learn so we do not have to wait decades to realize this. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Yes it is, and we should and yes some will suck and be a waist. I think that's what people do not get. It's not a 100% solution where there is never an abuse or never mismanagement. However when you judge you should look at the whole picture that the idea effects. I think that is what made America strong. Invest in new ideas many will fail but the one revolutionary idea will have drastic effects. Think of the Television how many other business and avenues of revenue have become possible because if it? I can't even count way too many. Many people have ideas, but having the ability to attempted to actually do them is the game changer. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Killing will continue as long as people have to fight for resources that they want. This can be motivated by survival, need, or simply wants. As for less people killed? How many died on 09/11? how many innocent people have we killed in Iraq alone? Numbers seem to suggest the greatest killer is the extremist religion of capitalism, and the vast majority of the people doing the killing are Christians. Numbers do not lie. Now in reality everything is much more complicated, but if you want to super simplify the view your logic still fails. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

The worst thing I heard was the guy who said If they don't fuck the !@# of these boys what are they supposed to do fuck their grandmothers pussy? Like that's the only two options? That to me is just insane, it has nothing to do with Islam it has nothing to do with anything other than culture and I guess desperation. That was so fucked that I felt horrible for thinking it but I thought the only solution for someone who lives in that reality is death. I don't know it just sucked. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKHPTHx0ScQ I have to be honest (that is the one rule I will never break, even if others will and have taken advantage of it), this made me think Glass Parking lot. It really did. I know I am wrong but damn I cannot see how I would teach or if it’s even possible to teach some people who are so far goon a new way to live. Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S77dCAZzcLM Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8rRqRoCUsg This is by VICE if any one cares. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Really stupid stuff and full of hate. Not really even cleaver. However I don’t believe I have the right to tell someone else not to write them or say it. If I see any man ever raise their hands on a woman then I will gladly step in; however words are words, and this is America. You really should turn off your internet if you have that much of a thin skin by the way. There is shit out there much much worst and people do it to get you to react you cant be that easy. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

What in the hell would you do then? His county is one of the major corridors of illegal alien traffic. He's doing what he can to stem that behavior however he can within the law he works with. Once we lose the ability to follow the laws that we set and we go against our own principles we lose period. We go from a country that is just to a country that is not. I find that thought horrifying. No matter what the excuse giving is. Attack on Pearl Harbor or illegal aliens we should learn from our mistakes not constantly repeat them. My .02 I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Hold on can i please give you all of my money? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Not jumping because of economy had to sell everything I loved, rig, car, even a few of my guitars, but I am making a comeback so goal is to be back jumping again in 2-3 months. The reason I jump is Adrenalin and nothing else matters….. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Based on user name Feed you kabobs and tea until you exploded. and i would kill 11 people. then take a break and have some kabobs.....and tea I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

if that's the case then you are right. The article made it seem like he was going around just pulling over tan people. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

If he is just pulling over people who look Spanish then he is breaking the law, and should be canned. Is this not what was happening? If he was just asking as stated by the law. To ask for papers and proof of residency from people who are already being investigated, pulled over for another reason then he would be doing his job. This was my understanding of the law, Did i not understand this correctly? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-05-24/news/sns-rt-us-usa-arizona-sheriffbre94n0y3-20130524_1_toughest-sheriff-cecillia-wang-saturation-patrols How does this ass hat keep his job? And people wonder why there is hate for the police. Thanks for proving all the people who criticized the AZ law right. For the record I was in favor of the law as it was presented, which after you have stopped someone or needed the cops to talk to them for another crime you could ask for papers. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Most are. I'm sure you've never met any though. And they haven't missed anything either. So what, Do you think all troops are heroes? None of them are ever rapists, or murders? None of them are just psychos who wan to kill someone? None of them are ever become traitors? Do you need it to be in black and white to be comfortable or is it you truly are unaware that even in the troops there are good guys and scum bags just like anywhere else? I find that whenever people have a hard reaction to a question it’s because they can’t stand the truths that might put a crack in there beliefs. I don't get that or know how people become that way I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Where have we seen this before? I think they have the wrong idea because of the wrong idea most people have in the west about Islam. So they join up and just get pulled the violent side of religion because that what they really our inside. Anyone know what happened before the murder? Did these two ass holes just walk up and start killing this guy? There was no altercation? No history? Nothing? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I don’t know about most people but for me never have cared what a man does with his dick and other adults. The only time it’s an issue for me is when they preach about being pure. I don’t like hypocrites. Dude cheats on his wife, wife cheats on husband, likes to play dress up, get pissed on, shit on, dildo up there ass I do not care. All that gets filed under none of my business. All I care is if I like what the guy/girl does. Same reason I didn’t give a fuck about Clinton. Dude lied about a blow job the question should have not been asked period. However not sure i would vote for a dude named Weiner I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

It’s a lot of shit, and yelling. There are a few people who are good at debating and actually have something to contribute. I pay attention to them more. Personally I frequent another form and the discussion there are much more level headed and open minded then many of the views you get here. If you spend enough time here you notice you are arguing way to the left or right of your own view point simply because of how far left or right the people you are debating have taken it. I am guilty of that myself. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

When was the last time one of those three made a video and involved their religion as a reason or excuse to do murder people in cold blood? I recall quite a lot of video of US warplanes bombing Baghdad. Does the US attempt to minimize collateral damage? Is their intent to kill civilians? The difference here is intent. There will always be “collateral damage” collateral damage = killing innocent people, civilians. So when we decide to start a war we know we will kill innocent people. So it’s not as if we are surprised that people die we know it will happen. Now compound that with the whole FACT that the war was started for no actual reason then you tell me how that’s different. Please keep in mind. Not everyone who takes up arms against our invading army is an insurgent or a terrorist. Some as you or I would don’t want some fucker from another land to come to their home and kick the door in. Also let’s not forget there are plenty of videos showing our solders intent, and the ones who expose these war crimes well some are still in solitary confinement after 3 years. As for religion: I am not sure if you are aware or not but Christianity plays a huge role in our military. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

how is that different from Christian or Jewish or atheist murder? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I have no idea why people love Prince & ^ what ever he calls him self now..... and almost every pop song I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Holy shit is that ZZ Top

These solders are not Muslim, and the superior officers are not Muslim, nor did this occur in a Muslim country. So I don’t think any of those laws would apply nor had anything to do with the crime. To find out what caused these people to be such savages we would have to look at them and examine them in the most scientific manner. Off course by that I mean the stereotypical view of their country of origin and their religion. That’s the only sure fire way that we can find why some people act like ass holes. I blame The Bible, and Cheese. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain