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Bio-Weapons Scare at Military Academy West Point (NY) -- Army football practice was delayed nearly two hours yesterday after a player reported finding an unknown white powdery substance on the practice field. New head coach, John Mumford, immediately suspended practice while police and federal investigators were called to investigate. After a complete analysis by both the FBI and Army Intelligence, forensic experts determined the white substance unknown to players was the goal line. Practice was resumed after special agents decided the team was unlikely to encounter the substance again.

A) Not sure I'm on board with your rationalizing some murders as better than others, but: B) I'm pretty certain that muslim extremists are targeting people who are guilty in their minds as well. I was pointing out absurdity.

"The UN set the bases for peace after the six day war, put ozone layer depletion on the international agenda, eliminated smallpox, and helped god knows how many countries gain independence and hold independent election. Two Nobel Peace prizes don't lie, the UN has done a very good job of its original mandate, encourage world peace." Peace after the six days war? Dont you read the papers? Nobel peace prize winner: Yassar Arafat. Yeah, that's credibilty. No lies there. Encourage world peace? Again, turn on your TV.

Ding! Ding! We have a winner!! Yep. Cop murdering bastard. We should have fried him long ago. He laughs at us from his cell. Of course, the left wants him free. The french really want him free. Pick your friends carefully.

He killed the cop. He desrves what he gets. He's another Willie Horton.

Then why has the US been asking for the UN's help in Iraq? But outside of current events, do you think the world would be no better or worse if the UN hadn't been established? Not a fair question. I pick C: Way better off without. We asked because of protocol even though the UN is a toothless irrelevant org. NATO, on the other hand, is a relevant org. It can back up itself with might. If you want, I will flood this thread with proof of the lack of credibility of the UN. Its at best socialist. At worst, Marxist. FUN. Here's a start: "Stanley A. Weiss Articles International Herald Tribune Friday, May 17, 2002 A Charade of Bullies Feigning Decency Human Rights Commision WASHINGTON--While the international community was distracted by accusations of human rights violations in the West Bank, an outrage with global repercussions recently unfolded at the annual session of the United Nations Commission on Human Rights. Some of the world's most brutal dictatorships are making a mockery of the world's highest human rights body. How tainted is today's commission? Just compare its membership against the ranking of democracies published annually by independent, nonprofit Freedom House, based in New York. Of the commission's 53 member nations, 29, or 55 percent, are rated only partly free or not free by Freedom House, meaning that they have little or no respect for basic civil liberties or political rights. The commission, which is intended to "examine, monitor and publicly report" human rights abuses, includes such not-free regimes as Communist China, with its criminal record on human rights and violent repression of religious minorities. There are Congo and Algeria, whose security forces regularly torture and murder civilians with impunity. And Communist Vietnam, which continues to stamp out any hint of dissent. And there is partly-free Russia, whose forces in Chechnya have killed thousands of civilians, left hundreds of thousands homeless and been accused of widespread rape and torture. Of the 10 regimes ranked worst by Freedom House, half - Fidel Castro's Cuba, Moammar Gadhafi's Libya, female-oppressing Saudi Arabia, slave-trading Sudan and terrorist-supporting Syria - have seats on the commission. How did these habitual abusers come to dominate the body designed to police them? Blame the complex dynamics of the United Nations, which too often put politics above principle. As in all UN bodies, membership on the commission is based on regional quotas - 15 seats for Africa, 12 for Asia, and so on. A nation's human rights record is not a criterion. In most cases, regions decide who will represent them during three-year terms. Only when a region offers more candidates that it has seats does something like a real election occur, by secret ballot of the 54-member UN Social and Economic Council, which oversees the commission. It was this secret vote that booted the United States out last year for the first time since the commission's founding in 1947. The 21 nations of the so-called Western European and Other Group had offered four candidates for three seats. (The United States recently regained its seat for the 2003-2005 period.) Meanwhile, the African bloc selected Libya and Algeria, and the Asian bloc selected Saudi Arabia and Syria. The commission's recent session in Geneva in some cases followed the old practice of shaming by naming - for example, highlighting abuses by Iraq and Cuba. But the real shame was vote after vote in which an alliance of abusers united to defeat condemnations of their own miserable behavior. For the first time in two decades, the commission voted not to criticize Iran for its record of religious and political persecution. Among the 20 commission members providing cover for the Islamic Republic were fellow oppressors Saudi Arabia, Libya and Pakistan, joined by China and Cuba. An Iranian diplomat called the vote a "great victory." Russia was spared criticism of its brutal Chechnya campaign, thanks to the support of China, Syria and Cuba - dictatorships which then joined in repeatedly condemning the West Bank incursions by Israel. Instead of watching for abuse, members once again watched one another's backs. Nigeria, which stands accused of massacring thousands of its citizens in recent years, voted to prevent debate on Chinese abuses. China, in turn, backed a Nigerian motion to prevent condemnation of Robert Mugabe, the Zimbabwe strongman who rigged his March re-election after violently repressing political opponents. President Jiang Zemin then traveled to Nigeria to express China's gratitude for the African regime's help in protecting "the legitimate rights and interests of the developing world." Nigeria took the lead in persuading the commission to end the regular human rights monitoring of its neighbor Equatorial Guinea, known for torturing and imprisoning opponents of the ruling regime. That was just weeks after the two nations resolved a long dispute over their maritime border and access to the oil-rich Gulf of Guinea. Acknowledging allegations of the commission's "increased politicization," the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, Mary Robinson, called on members to engage in "deep reflection." African members reflected, then granted a seat to Zimbabwe. Robinson warned delegates as they left Geneva that "if the commission is not able to act for the protection of those whose rights are being violated on a massive scale," it would "lose its essence." If the United Nations is to realize the lofty goals of its founders, prying this important human rights body out of the bloody hands of the world's worst abusers would be a good place to start. " If you support the UN....bring it on!

It is. So is murdering doctors, but that doesn't mean all christians belong to the army of god and kill doctors - just as not all (or even most) arabs are terrorists. It seems to me there is a never ending supply of muslims to perform suicide bombings but the number of Christians that murder abortion doctors I can count on my hands. At least the christian murderers try to target the guilty(in their minds). The muslims target women and children in markets, restaurants, busses and nightclubs. Give me a break. Name five abortion doctor killers. I can name 19 homicide bombers.

" No, that is simply an indication of freedom, and a government which trusts its citizenry to be responsible. I wouldn't have it any other way! Since something like 38 states now have concealed handgun carry laws, the question that the citizens of the remaining 12 states should be asking their legislators is; "How come you think we are less worthy and responsible then the citizens of those other 38 states? Do you think we're morons compared to the rest of the country?" " You know whats funny? Where I come from I am NOT trusted to carry a weapon. Here in Fl I AM trusted to carry one. Guess what? I didnt turn into a homicidal maniac! Imagine that! I carry a gun all the time and have never felt like I was in the old west ready to "call someone out" at any time. I treat the responsibilty of carrying a weapon with great respect. "An armed society is a polite society."

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Yes Maam, I do apologize. You may use your weapon. 'scuse me.

Just what you see on the wall Mac. 5.56, 7.62N,7.62x39. 45ACP, 9mm.

5.56 FMJ ammo DOES fragment in tissue at velocities above 2700fps. Check this link: http://www.ammo-oracle.com/ The steel penetrator of M855/SS109 is great for piercing light armor but it makes the bullets less likely to fragment. I said "5.56 FMJ" fragments. You are being supplied with ammo the weapon was not designed for. The AR15/M16 rifle was designed by Stoner for a specific powder and bullet type. You are shooting light AP rounds designed to penetrate vehicles and body armor at guys wearing towels and sheets thus you get hole like ice pics make. You guys need good old M193. JMHO OK that really means nothing to me. Simply put you can read all the reports you want on studies about M855 rounds that we are using today. Also refer to the "Army Times" whick reported that the biggest complaint from troops in the field is they have to shoot a target up to 3 times to stop it at close range. The rounds are so powerfull they are doing nothing but punching holes in them.

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http://michnews.com/artman/publish/article_1874.shtml " Tom DeWeese -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The UN Wants to Control the Internet By Tom DeWeese Dec 5, 2003, 00:05 Throughout the history of mankind, any time the spark of liberty has been ignited, one force or another has rushed to extinguish it. Today, in a world already suffocating under the weight of rules and regulations designed to control, tax and consume every outlet of human expression, the Internet stands as the only unregulated source of liberty in the world. True to form, the United Nations is holding yet another international gathering to plot the takeover of the Internet. Meeting in Geneva, Switzerland, government diplomats and non-governmental organizations (NGO’s) have gathered at the World Information Summit to discuss the “role of the media,” in order to set “acceptable boundaries to freedom of expression.” Acceptable to whom? Nations like Brazil, India, China, and Saudi Arabia are among those pushing to have the UN take over control of the Internet. They argue that the Internet is a public resource that should be managed by national governments and, at an international level, by an intergovernmental body such as the International Telecommunications Union (ITU), the UN agency responsible for organizing the information summit." "You can take my keyboard from my cold dead hands..."

"The BFG 9000: This gun has everything you need to solve any problem. The only hi-tech gadget that truly lives up to it's name, the BFG discharges energy to indiscriminately kill anything stupid enough to try and mess with you. For most enemies, nothing is left but a fine, red mist and stain on the floor. In addition, you can fire this baby anytime anywhere and you won't take any bullcrap damage from being too close like you will using a rocket launcher. The BFG 9000 is the first, best, and original Ass Kicking Weapon. Everything else is a cheap imitation. Oh, and there's no flashy bullcrap either. Look at this thing - it's just a bulky piece of metal that shoots things. It's not sleek or sexy or futuristic looking - it's ugly, unweildy, and 100% effective, just like weapons are supposed to be." Just what you see on the wall Mac.

5.56 FMJ ammo DOES fragment in tissue at velocities above 2700fps. Check this link: http://www.ammo-oracle.com/

And I wouldn't need to be quite so accurate. You really have to be certain you get a good head shot. I mean, after all, we're talking zombies. With the optics I'll be using I can guarantee a head shot at 50 yds. Plenty good for zombies and target aquisition is fast and easy with both eyes open as well. That way I can keep situational awareness. No Zulus sneaking up on my flanks. If your using slugs you'll be good to fifty yds but not near as accurate as me. If you're using 00buck you wont get reliable patterns for head shots past 15 yds. Plus, I can shoot 5.56 Alllllllll day long. Try 100 rounds od 12 guage slug. Owch!

Call the DZ and they will try and fix you up.

Good luck and speedy recovery from Florida!

Ban cars. For the children.

I can carry far more ammo than you and reload much faster. I'd like to see you carry 600 rounds of 12 guage slugs. Thats only 20 mags for me.

Not true. Some military 5.56 ammunition fired from the M4's 14.5 inch barrel will not have enough velocity to reliably fragment at distances over 100yds but at CQB distances with a head shot (required with zombies) I should have no problem. Check this link. http://www.armedforcesjournal.com/bullets/

Not blown off, just a headshot is required. Sorry I left out shotgun, lets see if I can mod the poll.

I just watched 28 days later and found it disappointing having been set in the UK where they have been disarmed. I was expecting a good zombie shootem'up. Anyway post your best zombie fighting weapon and caliber. I prefer 5.56 NATO with an M4 carbine and Aimpoint or ACOG. Light rifle, light ammo so you carry plenty and the optics are great for CQB and fast target aquisition. A lot of people dont like the mouse gun/ammo but for headshots on zombies at close range it would be fine.

I have to call bullshit. 45 minute canopy ride? 2 1/2 miles away? In 45 minutes you should have found the DZ and flew it home. I cant believe it was 45 minutes. Two people went to get you. What do you expect? The whole DZ to drop everything to go find you when you had a premature deployment that should have been prevented before exit? If your container opened at 13 grand it wasnt inspected before you exited or you struck something on the way out the door. Containers dont just "open". Besides, the system worked. You were found. Get over it.