SKYWHUFFO

"Curiously, the website for retired United pilots has been down for the past few weeks" Remember, United and Continetal just announce their "merger" So their records, are probably going to be screwed.

uuhhh, he had an antique store, you never know what walks in those stores for sale. Ever see PawnStars on TV? Jo i'll ask again, Fourth Plain Road that name ring any bells?

Jo what do you know about Fourth Plain Road?

Here is a dumb question that probably is not known. How long was Cooper standing around between the time he boarded the plane, and when he bought the ticket"? I am still hung up on why he would have ever stood out to the ticket counter person who sees hundereds of business people in suits probably flying everyday. Is the ticket agent who states remembering Cooper boarding the plane still alive? Sluggo, somthing to think about, adding a connection on your site, a list of the prominant players and if they are alive or dead. Somthing like: Ralph H- Agent, Alive Duane Weber- Suspect, Deceased Kenneth Christianson- Suspect, Deceased Rat- Pilot, Alive Tina- Stewardess, alive ?????, brought money and canopies to plane, ???? I am a black and white person( it's the engineer in me.) if i see it i understand it better. I know the list would be long, but it could be a work in progress. Whats ya think?

When i was 21 and thought i knew all there was about beer, I had an old guy ask me an interesting question at the bar one night. He looked at me as i went thru trying to order a list of beers they didn't have, and he said, "Son, do you know how many types of beers there are in the world"? I confidently looked at him and replied in my then know it all attitude " I would say thousands". He replies "not even close there young one. there are only 3 types of beer as he raised his glass". I called BS on this, and he said, "it's true, three types, WARM, COLD, and FREE! For that education you can buy me two of the three, Hey bartender a cold free one on my new young friend here!" Always remember that and you will be happy when the beer light goes on!

unless you have $1200 of the Cooper bills lying around your house only $5800 was found by Brian Ingram. So you better come clean Gerald and tell us about the other $1200! HA! HA!

been there done that Georger, CNN, Usatoday, ESPN etc etc. I think i have read every story on the oil rig, the economy, hell i i even read the story where they found Noah's Ark on Mt Arat last week, and wondered who was going to be the first to ask if there was iny 20's in a bucket buried with it was going to be! HA! sleep deprivation is taking it's toll, must have Cooper NEWS! JO- I'll even take a Jo story or theory right now!

377, we named her Kinley Grace. Sluggo, I promise when my Golden Retreiver has puppies I will name one Sluggo! That's the best i could do. Now, for a little newborn present to the old man,sombody thow out some juicey news related to the case would ya! if i have to stay up all night i want somthing good to read or think about. It's quiet in here and i need somthing to read other than TMZ.com! HA!

forget the CAVA, what happened to Sluggo??? I had an excuse to be missing, my wife gave birth our little girl 2 days ago! She wouldn't name her Cooper, She wouldn't consider D.B. and i was afraid i would get hit if i suggested Sluggo, or GeorgeR!

Does anyone remember the DC-3 that sat at Richmond for years the i was told it was sold to a museum several years ago? Anyone know any info on it, what plane it was or where it went?

2 tunnels within 3-4 hours of each other. Not too smart. You have to remember Pigeon Forge is just south of Cincy. I would say(of course i am bias because of my location) Indy. Central to everything everyone has mentioned already.

I agree with Georger. Keeping you guys on subject is like hearding Ducks! I believe we were discussing the riggers card thing and Cooper putting on the rig.

If i was looking to build a tunnel (HIN HINT) The first thing i would do is contqact John Suiter go to Bodyflight.net He consults on portables and permnanant tunnels. IT costs you about what i spend on Beer to consult with him. And to top it of he is still probably one of the top three if not the best tunnel flyer in the US. He is the real deal and probably has worked over the numbers location etc in his head. Also you have a tunnel 3-4 hours south of CINCY at pigeon Forge take a trip there.

look her square in the eye without even blinking and say " I'm a skydiver, if there is no video it didn't happen!"

Thanks Jerry!

as far as the rigger card, i am once again calling folklore. As 377 said why would Tina know what it was to report it. If he did look at it i think it was by mistake. Like any Whuffo would do if he opened the rig and saw the card he would pull it out to see what it was. Here is a question related to putting on the rig i have. In what order did it take place, he tied the bag to his body or did he put on the rig then tie it on? I have seen the info, but not any order. I am curious if he attached it to the webbing or his body. Anyone seen this?

377, Like i said earlier, WE are IGNORING the parnoria posts! Jerry you hear this you like to respond to them too! Stick to the CAVA discussion and life will be happier and make quade's job a lot easier!

I agree now.

We strayed again, I want to make a motion that we return to the CAVA process and discuss this paragraph Bruce just put up, and stay on point by IGNORING the Paranoria ramblings. Jo you are welcome to participte but no more babbling about the FBI, and discuss the topic NOT WEBER! The subject of this forum is DB cooper not Duane Weber. I feel i can ask for this for a couple of reasons, I am one of the few jumpers (on a jumpers forum) in this discussion, I have been on this forum since 2003, and one of only two people in this forum (377 being the other) who can say they have experienced what Cooper felt by jumping out of a Jet. My patience are wearing thin just like others here with the diversions caused by rants, the attacks, then whining, it's the same everytime and i am about to unleash and type what i really want to say, and quade will probably give me a TO. So can we get back to the discussion and not rants? So do I have a second to my motion?

Well said Sluggo!!!!! Jo do not ignore this and keep rambling on. Address it here and not in a pm or anything. You cry about wanting help the offer is on the table to give you everything you want. So it is put up or shut up time as Sluggo states so well. Either accept the invite or quit the babbling about the FBI. If you don't address it we will remind you everytime you post of this offer.

An interesting piece of what i could read in the second article, He stated he was not satisfied with the drawing the FBI provided, the chin too narrow. Thinking about the whole picture, this guys sees thousands of people a day in his job. Why would ONE person stand out cause he is quiet and how would he know that person was the guy sitting in row 18 that started this whole thing? When i travel for business I am alone and usually act in these manners because i don't know anyone. I still stand by the thought that Cooper did nothing to note being noticed i think.

I am leaning towards acceptance of the bag. I try to look at things as whole picture. In the whole picture there are SO MANY, myths born to this story because of mis reporting or exageration thru the years. This happened from day one, from DAN to DB. Call it the engineer in me, we have a word we use everyday with data, it's validate. By seeing the agreement from several different angles, Georger, Sluggo, and Jo, it helps to validate the existance. Cooper stated in the transcripts to stay at 10K, he had an altimeter. This is why i asked 377 about the pillow mounted altimeters of this time period. Sluggo, what's the next question? I like this alot better than watching the bickering.

377, help me out on this one cause i never used one it was before my time. How big would a pillow altimeter be. Would it match Georger idea of the package size, or what would the military equal to that be? Georger that may answer your size and it being soft, quiet.

Georger, Who exactly told Law Enforcement(LE) about the bag. I have never seen it stated, and why would anyone have reason to remember him carrying it on the plane before the incident? this just strikes me as odd. Help me work thru this so i can understand it. Remember i am just a simple guy with a degree from a mid major conference( that was a shot at the basketball announcers this weekend I hate that term). HA! You gonna cheer Butler on now that UNI has bowed out?

The worst 2 words for a Nascar Fanatic RAIN DELAY! Sluggo, you better change over to basketball cause Martinsville is all wet! HA! I think the Pittsburg article is artistic license of the writer. The only thing we know is the brief case from the bomb report. I still stand by, why would a ticket counter person or stewardesses have a reason to remember Cooper before he handed that note off. Has anyone besides the men in black ever talked to the ticket counter person? Any of us ever tried? Is that person still living? Bruce I smell an interview if so? Everyone here conceides Tina is off limits, what about this guy or Flo? I think this shold be the next question group. Just some questions to discuss whille mother nature leads a couple laps at Martinsville! HA!