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In 1997, Jo told the the FBI that Duane used the alias "John Collins".. don't know if that was ever confirmed by the FBI. Which came first, the clerks claim or Jo's claim..

"canvassing hotel-motels, vicinity of airport" Investigation in Portland territory negative.

The Bing sketch hadn't been made yet,, there was that very first sketch that may have been made by then. IMO, it is entirely BS or extremely embellished.. The FBI was canvassing hotels.. maybe that part is legit and in the late 90's the clerk saw the Duane narrative contacted Jo and greatly embellished the incident. This was the first sketch..

I found some info related to that doc.. Apparently, in the late 90's Jo was getting publicity for her Duane narrative and was contacted by somebody claiming to be the clerk who worked at the Rodeway Inn.. The guy even claimed he was shown a pic of Duane and identified him as the guy he saw.. Jo even credited that incident with the FBI DNA testing Duane. If the doc was produced close to the hijacking that lends some cred but if it was created in the late 90's then is either a hoax or embellished.. but it looks like Jo didn't create it..

Since the FBI may read this forum.. Can you put hotel/motel info in the next Cooper vault doc.. and info for the slide with the hair and any details on the chute packing cards Thanks

I disagree with the context.. it could be referring to the previous night before the hijacking.. It doesn't make sense for it to be the 24th,, Cooper was busy in the early evening and would have received the late wake up call the same day as the FBI was there. The FBI wouldn't have any interest. The point is that Cooper stayed close to the airport before he hijacked the plane, not that he landed at the motel and decided to stay next to the airport, that is crazy. but if Jo Weber was part of it,, it is probably BS.. I'd still like to confirm the source.

I don't read it that way.. Thanksgiving day was when the FBI arrived.. He could have checked in the day before the hijacking and if he asked for a late wakeup call that may have been the 24th.. It could be unrelated and the wording is vague but why would the FBI take the registration card.. if it was Wednesday early evening, it wasn't Cooper..

Reynolds was in Troutdale Or,, The Alcoa plant was near Lake Vancouver on the Washington side of the Columbia.. maybe 16 miles apart..

I saw this letter in the HBO doc,, does anybody remember it or have a source, is it legit, date? I did a word search in the FBI docs but no hit,, it may be an image somewhere.. I was able to read some of the blacked out text.. The hotel is the Rodeway Inn.. and the name was John Collins… Jo Weber claimed Duane used John C Collins,, but I couldn’t confirm that he actually did. Duane was not Cooper but Jo had access to documents and may have made up the John Collins name for Duane to fit this doc,, that was her MO.. Anyway, this may be the only "potential" reference to anybody being Cooper prior to the hijacking. The FBI took the registration card he touched but nothing was ever noted in the FBI files. It might not be Cooper but it is interesting. Rodeway Inn is still there.

Yup, Tina did corroborate Cooper's statement in the HBO doc,, he said he won't be taken alive.. Dynamite does come in red,, but imagine the psychology of pulling off a hijacking with a fake bomb, if people don't believe it, he is done.. a sky marshal or a couple passengers may jump him. A real bomb would give him the confidence, a fake bomb wouldn't unless he had another concealed weapon. We won't know for sure, but I lean toward real.

Anybody corroborate this statement.. it is from Gray's book,, "They're not going to take me alive," If he did say it.. It supports the bomb being real.

Teletype was edited to exclude non NORJAK comms..

Soderlind's notes with times.. FBI asked him for his notes..

They could see the glow of Portland,,, the clouds were broken. So, Cooper would know if he was over a city even if he couldn't see the ground, Vancouver and Portland would emit a glow.. There is no way Cooper intentionally jumps over a city at night in an unsteerable chute....

It is based on flawed logic,, that the TBAR money could only arrive there from Cooper landing outside the FBI LZ.. and the FBI made an error searching the wrong area. Why, because the FBI didn't find anything in their search area. That includes moving the flight path West or East or moving the jump zone South. They beleive that reverse engineering TBAR will produce a place to search the FBI missed and potentially find evidence. To do this one must ignore or distort the actual evidence.. It is a hail mary pass.. There are many ways the money could have arrived at TBAR while maintaining the FBI LZ and flight path. Cooper evidence may have been found in the FBI LZ but never turned in or recognized. It is extremely unlikely TBAR will be solved beyond some good theories. BTW,, If I was going to do a new search my #1 spot would be along the South Fork Lewis River from the Heisson bridge Eastward.. it is right in the LZ sweet-spot and there was a parachute found there that was rejected based on Cossey's flawed description.

This is what Edwards misunderstands,, The context here is the phone call to Soderlind shortly after Cooper jumped.. and the oscillation (Cooper's jump) could have been between 8:05 and the call to Soderlind. Rataczak is giving a range indicating the time would be recorded.. the end point of that range is the call to Soderlind in the suburbs of Portland. He is not saying Cooper jumped or the oscillations or the bump was in the suburbs of Portland. Soderlind was listening in and took notes and times.. Soderlind's LZ (map) went South to about Battleground, about when he got the call from Rataczak.

Frankly, it is a mess. Basically he is claiming the report of oscillations and the bump were two events not separated by seconds but by 7-10 minutes,, The crew reported the oscillations about 8:13, but felt the bump after the Columbia.. he claims He misreads several things and ignores others to get there. He insists the plane was auto, on auto the pilot wouldn't feel the hijacker on the stairs. It is mentioned in the files but is wrong, Rataczak said he was hand flying the entire time, Scott took over just before Reno and landed. Rataczak also stated he felt Cooper on the stairs.. He reported the mark your shrimpboat comment right away and called Soderlind minutes later. The other big thing he gets wrong is the reference to "suburbs of Portland" that was the call to Soderlind minutes after the "bump/oscillation".. Edwards has the evidence wrong and missed some important points.. He has repeated these errors for some time and for some reason he is fixated on moving the jump zone further south, confirmation bias maybe.

Edward's still gets the facts wrong and the wrong conclusion,, https://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_posts/23193030-d-b-cooper-and-flight-305-the-oscillations-and-the-pressure-bump-rev Rataczak said he was hand flying the plane. IT WAS NOT ON AUTOPILOT.. Then Edwards gets the "suburbs of Portland" out of context.. That was when they called Soderlind,, minutes after Cooper jumped.. Cooper did not jump over the Columbia or beyond the Columbia.. As for the oscillations, there were minor ones for some time, normal, then they increased rapidly on the gauge culminating in a physical bump.. this is within seconds not minutes.. An extreme oscillation seen on the gauge was felt as a bump.. Edwards is claiming there is a 7-10 minute separation between the crew reporting oscillations and the bump, this is false and a misread of the evidence. The bump was an extreme oscillation.

Grabbed it from here.. https://archive.org/details/kcrasp035dbcooper

The cause of death in the Gunther book, "natural causes", but it is here in an article,, "heart attack"

You both used the same flawed logic that the TISB particles could only have come from an alloy patent and people associated with it. Everything relies on that flaw.. both of you guys have essentially found a random guy who resembles the sketch and tried to make him fit the evidence.. is it possible to find Cooper that way, sure, but the odds are astronomical. You really think an older guy (58) with over 80 patents, a PHD, worked on the Manhattan Project, no military parachute experience, no aviation experience fits Cooper's profile? Remove the (flawed) tie particle premise then what do you have,,, Now, I will say that I would probably have pursued the same line of inquiry but I would not have brought them forward as a suspect without some major evidence.. I have pursued many things based on a hypothesis that never panned out.

BOOM, this is gold...

What about particle contamination on an airplane flying with the bulkhead door open to an engine or via the air bleed system... how do we control for those. The problem is we don't have context.. many of those particles are common. The rare ones are found in electronics, pyrotechnics, medical, dentistry, pigments/paints, automotive and more.. It is a rats nest trying to sort it out... There are two issues,, First, the tie knot had an amount of dust, that suggests it was sitting for some time before Norjak. and if you look at the UV image, the particle distribution is not evenly random,, there are horizontal patterns as if the tie was wiping something or lying in particle dust.. the UV particles are also on the rear tie piece. Tom's Boeing control tie UV image is evenly random. This indicates that many of the particles were likley deposited on the tie when not worn.

The FBI kept the evidence in a box including the tie.. particle contamination would be inevitable in handling or storage.. fbibox.mov

Here, Emrick recalled.. he was asked for "four chutes" but learned that the two backs were secured so he only sent the two fronts... Cossey wasn't aware of this and assumed his back chutes from Issaquah were used.. he was asked to ID the chute Cooper used before he learned of it.. thereby giving the wrong description.