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Compare genetic work done in the Ötzi case with what has been done in the Cooper case ! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ötzi So far as I know, the FBI has still not shared anything it has with the public. That includes evidence it may have and testing results it has. We are left to read posts about dinosaur dna contamination debates ? The Ötzi case is far more interesting, while the Cooper case hasn't offered up anything to have a debate much less a discussion about! The Cooper case is still wandering in the wilderness 50 years after the fact. There is literally nothing to even start a discussion about !!

Eric is involved, but not just Eric. Tom will give the sample to whomever can get a lab willing to do the testing he wants. I think his hope however, is that Eric could bring some publicity to the lab and therefore the lab may be willing to eat the cost of the testing, which isn't cheap. Tom's post on the FB group: THE DNA SAMPLE EXPLAINED So there is a lot of confusion and speculation about what is going on with the DNA. First off, I am not doing this exclusively with Eric, I also offered the same deal to Pat if they could come up with a lab that would provide at least 5 DNA sequences. I have MULTIPLE samples that could include Cooper's DNA. I have all the stubs that you already know about, I have 11 sterile filter canisters that were used with the vacuum. One of these was used in the Peterson documentary that ended up with my DNA. There is also the paper bag from the vac when we forgot to initially put the filter in a canister. I also have some scotch tape that lifted stuff off the tie. All the "forensics labs" you are aware of are in my opinion a huge waste of time. By their own admission they can only reliably get one MAYBE two sequences off a sample. This is useless in our situation. What you are not aware of is that forensics labs are not state-of-the-art in DNA analysis. That status belongs to Ancient DNA Labs where the only DNA they have has been deteriorating for thousands of years and is completely contaminated with every other living thing in the area. Ancient DNA Labs use a process called Metagenomics. --Metagenomics is the study of the structure and function of entire nucleotide sequences isolated and analyzed from all the organisms (typically microbes) in a bulk sample-- Now let's think about that for a second... this means that you can throw dirt in this machine, it will replicate ALL the DNA in the dirt and then reconstruct ALL the different organisms DNA from that sample. How does it achieve this miracle when forensic labs can't? Think of a book full of words and sentences. Except instead of pages, all the sentences in this "book" are in a single long paper tape one sentence tall. Now imagine you have hundreds of these tapes of the same book and you chew them up into chunks of tape maybe 5-20 words long. If you have the TIME AND MONEY you could have someone sit down and sort through all the chunks and find ones that match like this: brown fox jumped over (DNA frag 1) The quick brown fox (DNA frag 2) jumped over the lazy dogs (DNA frag 3) dogs back. (DNA frag 4) The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dogs back. (fully reconstructed DNA) So you can see how this is possible but it is VERY hard and VERY COSTLY. Every mastodon bone ever recovered is a poster child for contamination and completely degraded DNA. Yet these labs have been able to sequence DNA to the level they can tell different mastodon species apart. I have asked one of the best labs in the USA about doing Cooper's DNA and they said they only do human stuff if law enforcement asks for it AND it costs about 50k per run. What is new as of this week is that there are dozens of DNA labs around the world that would also probably be able to do this. They might not have the same stigma about not doing humans (hopefully). Then there is the problem of the cost. Que Eric Ulis, if he can generate enough publicity and make Cooper's DNA sizzle in the eyes of the public, then one of these labs may just do it for the public accolades!! So you see there is method in the madness. Finally how do I know so much about this? Because I was involved in a huge controversy over preservation of proteins (not DNA but similar) in dinosaur bones. This was the type of finding that would set science on its ear since those types of molecules were not supposed to last 65 million years. My team was on the side of modern contamination, the other side claimed that the dino bone locked out any contamination so the proteins had to be original dinosaur. Long story short, a student biologist on THEIR team contacted me not understanding the politics and was ousted unceremoniously when his findings hinted my team was correct. That student came into my team and suggested we take a chunk of dino bone (from the middle away from any surface) from the same geographic area and do a Metagenomics run on it. The resulting DNA pie chart showed that the middle of the dino bone was contaminated with DNA from every animal that lived on the surface of the ground in that area! This was supposed to put the protein thing to bed but politics has made it linger on. That “student” remains my good friend and is now the lead scientist for a group bringing back the passenger pigeon as well as other animals. He has been advising me on this for years. So if we want to get real Cooper DNA with the samples we have, Metagenomics is the only hope as far as I am concerned. If we get 100 profiles it will be easier to find him than if we get 10. Think about it, Cooper’s tie will have his DNA, his wife’s, his kids etc. I can do a family tree like I did with the particles (the software I used was actually for DNA family trees) and if a cluster shows up all closely related, we have our man! Your friendly neighborhood scientist, Tom Kaye

DNA AND LOSER UNCLE CHARLIE I imagine the scene! All the Cooper sleuths eagerly awaiting the latest set of DNA results with bated breath. It will be an average enough day in our mundane world. Quiet, civilised, with certain sections sniggering at the fact so many are awaiting the identity of the elusive hijacker of Northwest Orient Flight 305 that 99.999999% of the populace, including passengers and crew forgot about by November 24, 1972. To me, Cooper was “loser Uncle Charlie” who had nobody who loved him, no family, no prospects. This guy didn’t/doesn’t have a Jo, Marla, Greg, Ron, or posthumous advocate. Just that weird and borderline creepy Uncle your Mom felt obliged to invite to family occasions and people argued not to be sat next to him at the dinner table. I mean, most loving family men spend thanksgiving with their families - not ditch them for a score. If he was a family man, why not Nov 25, 1971 after a “last meal” with his nearest? Here’s why - he didn’t have anybody who gave the first, fifth, or final f**k about him. When Cooper threw open the tiny canopy with a 25lb weight under him, he saw a black flickering mass below - Lake Merwin or the Columbia. The rig didn’t have Capewells on it so when he plunged into the drink, he’s in a nylon jail cell that ge can’t get out of with a 21lb Looney Tunes Money Bag weighing him down. Cooper became fish food. Then loser Uncle Charlie is lost to history. He had nobody to report him gone, nothing was found because it all sank with him including the bomb/“bomb”, then somehow cash washes up on Richard Fazio’s beach. Loser Uncle Charlie was a vagabond who may have worked in different places, plants, airports, dropzones, wherever. Even if one of his WW2 buddies reported him missing - what foul play was there for the Feds/Cops to look into it? Im very much in the Dead Camp when it comes to Cooper. Hes strangely evaded the “missing presumed dead” title. For me - anyone alive after Nov 24, 1971 is a non-starter. Maybe a new perspective - but if he had a family who loved/cared for him at that time - also a red stroke out. Here’s a list of people the new DNA Analysis could match from the tie and the parachutes. 1) EJ Cossey 2) The Reno National Guard Captain who examined the rigs/packing cards 3) Any agent from the Vegas FBI field office 4) The lab people in Quantico 5) The innumerable postal workers/FBI agents who handed the tie etc when it was sent in the regular mail and passed around like a cheap whore for 20/30+ years 6) Larry Carr 7) Anyone in the Seattle/Portland field offices 8) Tom Kaye 9) Museum staff when the tie was displayed in an FBI exhibit 10) Loser Uncle Charlie who nobody knew, didn’t have a death certificate, was a “pack of smokes Daddy”, and wasn’t a Braden badass or a Trans Icon like Barb. Just a loser glorified aerial kidnapper who drowned with a bag of cash and in inescapable rig on a cold November night. I bet the Reca and McCoy people will still think it was Reca and McCoy though…