countzero 7 #1 April 10, 2008 i know germain, miller, ect. type courses cost a certain amount. but i'm interested in the cost of basic canopy coaching on a more individual/ local level. like if i want to learn more RW, FF, or CRW skills it cost the coaches jumps plus pack jobs. is canopy coaching charged the same way?diamonds are a dawgs best friend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #2 April 10, 2008 I think one of the issues of local canopy coaching is that we lack a specific curriculum when it comes to coaching for potential canopy piloting coaches. I would love to see the Germains and the Millers provided more coaching to the canopy pilots so they can become local canopy control coaches instead of teaching the people directly. This way we can get more help out to more people. I know people have talked in the past about bringing in a canopy coaching rating to the USPA (and hopefully other governing organizations), but unless I am mistaken we are not there yet. I have no problem talking to people locally about what I have learned in regards to canopy piloting, but I don't think I should be charging people a fee since I have never been formally trained (at least not yet) as a canopy control coach. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parachutist 1 #3 April 11, 2008 Quotei know germain, miller, ect. type courses cost a certain amount. but i'm interested in the cost of basic canopy coaching on a more individual/ local level. like if i want to learn more RW, FF, or CRW skills it cost the coaches jumps plus pack jobs. is canopy coaching charged the same way? Canopy coaching is generally done more from the ground, so there are usually no jumps involved for the coach. ie: classroom discussion, then set up some target jumps, then student does the jumps and instructor observes and videos, then debrief the videos back in the classroom. I usually just change $5 per jump to cover cost of camera wear & tear + time. I've done basic training such as how to improve accuracy, improving flare technique, or learning basic swooping techniques. For more specific training such as advanced swooping, you'd need to seek more specialized coaching and the price would typically go up as a result. What are you wanting to work on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damion75 0 #4 April 11, 2008 QuoteII know people have talked in the past about bringing in a canopy coaching rating to the USPA (and hopefully other governing organizations), but unless I am mistaken we are not there yet. The USPA might not be there but in the UK we have now had the Canopy Handling (CH) Coach and Canopy Piloting (CP) coach qualifications for a while now (at least 2-3 years). Can't tell you what the criteria are since I am not either and am too lazy to find the ops manual online right now, but to get your AFFI rating, you have to be a CH coach.*************** Not one shred of evidence supports the theory that life is serious - look at the platypus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #5 April 11, 2008 QuoteI think one of the issues of local canopy coaching is that we lack a specific curriculum when it comes to coaching for potential canopy piloting coaches. There's a complete basic canopy control course outline in the SIM. There's nothing there that would stop anybody who thinks they have the knowledge and skill to pass the information on from taking that outline and putting on a course locally. It's been there for a couple years now... With all the hot, broke canopy pilots out there you'd think basic canopy control courses would be available everywhere... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
countzero 7 #6 April 11, 2008 Quote What are you wanting to work on? the basics, accuracy and the stuff on the down sizing skills check list.diamonds are a dawgs best friend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 0 #7 April 11, 2008 We had a 'teach the teacher' course by a well-known canopy coach, for people from various Dutch dropzones who are or want to be canopy coaches. Seemed like a hit ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #8 April 13, 2008 I would love to see the Germains and the Millers provided more coaching to the canopy pilots so they can become local canopy control coaches instead of teaching the people directly. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Actually i know of a couple canopy coaches that have sat in on both of there course for that purpose. All they did was let Germain and Miller know that that was there intent, to learn to teach better.Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
