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Numatik 0
RiggerRob,
Cool thanks! I am going to look up online all the different ways to physically do them for those muscles.
Skybytch,
Sounds good! I am a little less then a month out, I am doing the PT, wind tunnel etc first so I am in better shape on jump day
Cool thanks! I am going to look up online all the different ways to physically do them for those muscles.
Skybytch,
Sounds good! I am a little less then a month out, I am doing the PT, wind tunnel etc first so I am in better shape on jump day
dthames 0
I have posted this before but I will repeat it for you.
When I did my second release AFF jump, wobbled around, flipped over, and was held by the instructor the rest of the jump, I considered how well I had done. I concluded this, “I could do that 4 more times and still not get it, or pass the level”. That was after 7, 2 minute turns in the wind tunnel with an AFF instructor, that is also a wind tunnel coach. So, I was not learning what I needed.
I paid $180 to have some go beside me and hold me while I tried to learn to be stable. You can’t learn very well if someone is hanging on you. How many $180 jumps could I afford? I quit AFF.
When I learned to ride a bicycle, I pushed off, went on a slight downhill grade, trying to balance and peddle. I would fall, try again, get a bit further, try again, and after a while, I could go a little way before I fell. Then a bit more and finally some success.
Static line or IAD training is much like that. Start with 5 seconds. Once you master 5, go for 10.
I did,
3x5
2x10
1x15
1x20
Then cleared for solo practice to the top. Those were $75 each, not $180.
The first 4 or 5 of those jumps were, exit stable, count, don’t fight it and make yourself flip….pull. I was turning slowly and rocking around, but I didn’t flip. On my second 10 second jump, I felt like I had a little control. The next jump I was told 10 seconds. But if you are stable and on heading (original aircraft heading) then take it to 15 seconds. I exited and started a slow turn to the left that I was afraid to try to reverse. I let it go a full 360 and was back on aircraft heading and stable at 10 seconds. I then went 5 more and pulled.
My arch was not much better than it was when I quit AFF. But, I could FLY….well, sort of. The following jumps were Turns, recovery from being unstable (flips), and from that point my only real problem is that I fall a bit slow.
If you have problems with AFF, ask about IAD or Static Line options. It is cheaper and puts more of the learning in your hands.
Dan
When I did my second release AFF jump, wobbled around, flipped over, and was held by the instructor the rest of the jump, I considered how well I had done. I concluded this, “I could do that 4 more times and still not get it, or pass the level”. That was after 7, 2 minute turns in the wind tunnel with an AFF instructor, that is also a wind tunnel coach. So, I was not learning what I needed.
I paid $180 to have some go beside me and hold me while I tried to learn to be stable. You can’t learn very well if someone is hanging on you. How many $180 jumps could I afford? I quit AFF.
When I learned to ride a bicycle, I pushed off, went on a slight downhill grade, trying to balance and peddle. I would fall, try again, get a bit further, try again, and after a while, I could go a little way before I fell. Then a bit more and finally some success.
Static line or IAD training is much like that. Start with 5 seconds. Once you master 5, go for 10.
I did,
3x5
2x10
1x15
1x20
Then cleared for solo practice to the top. Those were $75 each, not $180.
The first 4 or 5 of those jumps were, exit stable, count, don’t fight it and make yourself flip….pull. I was turning slowly and rocking around, but I didn’t flip. On my second 10 second jump, I felt like I had a little control. The next jump I was told 10 seconds. But if you are stable and on heading (original aircraft heading) then take it to 15 seconds. I exited and started a slow turn to the left that I was afraid to try to reverse. I let it go a full 360 and was back on aircraft heading and stable at 10 seconds. I then went 5 more and pulled.
My arch was not much better than it was when I quit AFF. But, I could FLY….well, sort of. The following jumps were Turns, recovery from being unstable (flips), and from that point my only real problem is that I fall a bit slow.
If you have problems with AFF, ask about IAD or Static Line options. It is cheaper and puts more of the learning in your hands.
Dan
Instructor quote, “What's weird is that you're older than my dad!”
Numatik 0
Thanks for adding more details, I appreciate it. I looked into S/L online and checking out videos, and considered it, but I wanted more time in free fall to get my form. I always do the 13k so its 60 seconds of straight freefall before pulling. The prices are SUPER expensive, I HATE it, but it will all be worth it at the end of the road. Skydance has 22$ jumps and at the price I will be doing several each visit!
I fear getting unstable and flipping. My coach said anytime you lose control just arch hard and aerodynamics will take its course and put you back in the neutral position. But I can’t arch well (yet?)!! During free fall all the force helps me arch little bit. I totally understood the bike thing, and your right. But just like before you get on the bike you want to ask questions first. I am going to try my best and I am not going to give up. I just fear certain things that I would think everyone else feared there beginning in the sport. My back is gonna be hard to work with but I hope PT and all these exercises help. I figure if even in PT all I can work is my upper back I would be able to make it work. The lower back can’t move. At all, but I am learning to use my hips as well
I fear getting unstable and flipping. My coach said anytime you lose control just arch hard and aerodynamics will take its course and put you back in the neutral position. But I can’t arch well (yet?)!! During free fall all the force helps me arch little bit. I totally understood the bike thing, and your right. But just like before you get on the bike you want to ask questions first. I am going to try my best and I am not going to give up. I just fear certain things that I would think everyone else feared there beginning in the sport. My back is gonna be hard to work with but I hope PT and all these exercises help. I figure if even in PT all I can work is my upper back I would be able to make it work. The lower back can’t move. At all, but I am learning to use my hips as well
hillson 0
Had a guy in my AFF progression that was a walking metal skeleton from an old industrial accident 20 years ago. Couldn't and still cant really arch. Talked with the instructors etc and they found a way to make it work for him...so the help is there. He will probably pick up his C license in under a year. Don't give up. Anyone can fall but there are many ways to fly (safely).
And the unstable AFF jumps are the best part at the end. :)
And the unstable AFF jumps are the best part at the end. :)
Numatik 0
more music to my hears!! Well between all you guys, the main instructors, and Skybytch when I see her, I have some really solid support and help!!!
Skybytch, what is your real name, I feel weird calling you that lol
Let me know when you'll be out at the dz again. I'll make a point of being there.
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