prboldin 0 #1 January 13, 2005 How much does tunnel time cost? Coach instruction? Video? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paige 0 #2 January 13, 2005 www.skyventureorlando.com or www.skyventure.com There are coaching packages from the tunnel employees which is usually cheaper than hiring a skydiver as a coach. The tunnel employees are great in Orlando and I know I'm thankful for the time and tips they give me when I fly with them. Employees or skydiver, youi can't go wrong but expect to pay a bit.Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Avion 0 #3 January 13, 2005 In Orlando tunnel time will run you about $10-$15 a minute depending on how you book it. Basic coaching from the instructors is included. I had offers from freelance coaches starting at $50 and up per session. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #4 January 13, 2005 QuoteI had offers from freelance coaches starting at $50 I've seen what some of the freelance coaches teach in there, and I won't pay them for what they were teaching, and how they were teaching. It's too bad that any one can call themselves a tunnel coach and charge people. Some people get taken. They pay to learn and the coach doesn't teach them a thing or teaches them the wrong body position.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Avion 0 #5 January 13, 2005 I've learned alot just by watching the Airspeed camps etc and the few really good freelance coaches. It all comes down to a little information and alot of practice, however you learn it. I am so glad I live by a tunnel and have the opportunity to spend hours and hours watching. And to think, I was ready to leave Orlando before I got involved with this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NeedToJump 0 #6 January 14, 2005 QuoteI've seen what some of the freelance coaches teach in there, and I won't pay them for what they were teaching, and how they were teaching. Yes, but there are also some incredibly good freelance coaches. prboldin - your best bet is to contact either the tunnel that you want to go to or a local dropzone and ask about coaching. Talk to other people who have gotten coaching and ask who they would recommend. I personally know at SkyVenture Orlando that most of the instructors who work for the tunnel are very good coaches, obviously some are better than others. The benefit to using an instructor who works there is that there is no additional charge (unless you call ahead and pre-arrange the coaching in which case ignore the following downsides.) The downside is you will probably get less of an initial briefing, you don't know which instructor you will get and you will probably get less of a debrief after flying. If you hire a good freelance coach then that coach will go over everything you are going to work on before getting into the tunnel and debrief the video after. It will also cost you more money. Find a coach that other people have used and recommend if you decide to hire a freelance coach. SkyVenture Orlando have all the block time prices listed here. Getting a video of your session is free if you have your own tape - it cost $5 to buy a video tape there. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions. Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #7 January 14, 2005 Please note what I said: QuoteI've seen what some of the freelance coaches teach in there, and I won't pay them for what they were teaching, and how they were teaching. I suggest asking what training the freelance coach has had in the tunnel, and what qualifications they have to be a coach. Yes, there are some great coaches out there that teach very well in the tunnel. Just ask Mailin, I've attached a picture of her first AFF jump after about 1 1/2 hours of training with Olaf.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NeedToJump 0 #8 January 14, 2005 QuotePlease note what I said Yup, and I agree completely with you. There are some people out there calling themselves tunnel coaches that charge money and actually make the people they are coaching worse flyers! I just wanted to make sure to say that there are good coaches out there as well, I don't want anyone getting scared away from hiring a freelance coach. QuoteI suggest asking what training the freelance coach has had in the tunnel, and what qualifications they have to be a coach Excellent suggestion, I completely agree. Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #9 January 14, 2005 You are so right, I should have also hit on the good coaches. Sorry, I tend to get going too fast when I'm posting at work, and just want to hurry up and get my reply up before I get pulled back into the work world.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NeedToJump 0 #10 January 14, 2005 I'm with you on that one. I hate being in the work world when I *should* be in the tunnel or the air Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites prboldin 0 #11 January 14, 2005 Thank you for all your comments; they have been most helpful. Skydivers are good peeps. I won't be in Orlando anytime soon, but there is a windtunnel on the base where I work (used for HALO school and the Golden Knights). I don't know the likelihood, but I've heard that if you make the right friends, you can squeeze in there. If any of you know any such friends let me know. Thanks again. -P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Bodyflight.Net 0 #12 January 14, 2005 Flyaway Indoor Skydiving in Pigeon Forge, TN - $125 for a book of 5 flights, includes coaching, 15 minutes of air time, all gear, and video is about $15 more bucks. Non skydiver coaches but all tunnel rats. Appalachian Amusement Center in Waynesville, NC - $600 per hour, includes coaching, flight time, gear & videos are free if you provide your own tape. Skydiver coach & tunnel rat. Also see the tunnel coaching links on the DZ.com Tunnel page: http://www.dropzone.com/links/Training_and_Coaching/Wind_Tunnels/index.html These are the two tunnels closest to you.. AAC about 6 hours, and Flyaway about 7.5 hours by car. Flyaway is more for fun than intense skydiving training and AAC is good for realistic freefall practice. and of course everyone else already mentioned SkyVenture Orlando. There are other tunnels here in the States, but these 3 are all within close proximity to Ft. Bragg. Good luck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Stacy 0 #13 January 14, 2005 I've had some excellent freelance coaches in the tunnel. Yep, some were pricey, but the $$ was well worth it. It's ALWAYS cheaper to go with a group of people though and split the fees. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 7 #14 January 14, 2005 QuoteHow much does tunnel time cost? Depends on the tunnel and how much time you get. Skyventure Orlando it's 630/hr. QuoteCoach instruction? 100/hr is what I charge...Some charge more. Quote Video? Bring a tape and it's free. A good thing to do is a camp. Airspeed has camps, my team holds camps. We charge 630/hr and 100/day coaching. A very fair rate. More info: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1314150#1314150"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Paige 0 #15 January 14, 2005 QuoteI'm with you on that one. I hate being in the work world when I *should* be in the tunnel or the air U work at home that doesn't count Makes for great lunch breaks thoughTunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Paige 0 #16 January 14, 2005 QuoteYes, there are some great coaches out there that teach very well in the tunnel. Just ask Mailin, I've attached a picture of her first AFF jump after about 1 1/2 hours of training with Olaf. Olaf also helped me a ton. I like his style of coaching, he'll push you but give you the right tools to succeed. Most of the tunnel coaches are hot too! I never mind too much being manhandled when I screw up . Esp. some of those freelancers, man they are smokinTunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #17 January 14, 2005 Quote[We charge 630/hr and 100/day coaching. A very fair rate. Ron - You might want to edit that bit. You guys are worth more than that. General comment - Organizing a camp of several jumpers works nicely as the tunnel offers discounts for large hour blocks (12 hours for the price of 10, e.g.). That savings can be used to offset coaching costs. Everyone wins. Best to find a good coach who can also organize a large camp - that's what we do. This time around we are hoping for a block of 24 hours. We're close, and looking forward to a huge learning experience with top notch coaches. And those guys work hard in that tunnel, imagine 4 to 6 hours a day in the tunnel with more than half of that flying hard - do that 2 or 3 days in a row...... ... 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NeedToJump 0 #6 January 14, 2005 QuoteI've seen what some of the freelance coaches teach in there, and I won't pay them for what they were teaching, and how they were teaching. Yes, but there are also some incredibly good freelance coaches. prboldin - your best bet is to contact either the tunnel that you want to go to or a local dropzone and ask about coaching. Talk to other people who have gotten coaching and ask who they would recommend. I personally know at SkyVenture Orlando that most of the instructors who work for the tunnel are very good coaches, obviously some are better than others. The benefit to using an instructor who works there is that there is no additional charge (unless you call ahead and pre-arrange the coaching in which case ignore the following downsides.) The downside is you will probably get less of an initial briefing, you don't know which instructor you will get and you will probably get less of a debrief after flying. If you hire a good freelance coach then that coach will go over everything you are going to work on before getting into the tunnel and debrief the video after. It will also cost you more money. Find a coach that other people have used and recommend if you decide to hire a freelance coach. SkyVenture Orlando have all the block time prices listed here. Getting a video of your session is free if you have your own tape - it cost $5 to buy a video tape there. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions. Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #7 January 14, 2005 Please note what I said: QuoteI've seen what some of the freelance coaches teach in there, and I won't pay them for what they were teaching, and how they were teaching. I suggest asking what training the freelance coach has had in the tunnel, and what qualifications they have to be a coach. Yes, there are some great coaches out there that teach very well in the tunnel. Just ask Mailin, I've attached a picture of her first AFF jump after about 1 1/2 hours of training with Olaf.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeedToJump 0 #8 January 14, 2005 QuotePlease note what I said Yup, and I agree completely with you. There are some people out there calling themselves tunnel coaches that charge money and actually make the people they are coaching worse flyers! I just wanted to make sure to say that there are good coaches out there as well, I don't want anyone getting scared away from hiring a freelance coach. QuoteI suggest asking what training the freelance coach has had in the tunnel, and what qualifications they have to be a coach Excellent suggestion, I completely agree. Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #9 January 14, 2005 You are so right, I should have also hit on the good coaches. Sorry, I tend to get going too fast when I'm posting at work, and just want to hurry up and get my reply up before I get pulled back into the work world.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeedToJump 0 #10 January 14, 2005 I'm with you on that one. I hate being in the work world when I *should* be in the tunnel or the air Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prboldin 0 #11 January 14, 2005 Thank you for all your comments; they have been most helpful. Skydivers are good peeps. I won't be in Orlando anytime soon, but there is a windtunnel on the base where I work (used for HALO school and the Golden Knights). I don't know the likelihood, but I've heard that if you make the right friends, you can squeeze in there. If any of you know any such friends let me know. Thanks again. -P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bodyflight.Net 0 #12 January 14, 2005 Flyaway Indoor Skydiving in Pigeon Forge, TN - $125 for a book of 5 flights, includes coaching, 15 minutes of air time, all gear, and video is about $15 more bucks. Non skydiver coaches but all tunnel rats. Appalachian Amusement Center in Waynesville, NC - $600 per hour, includes coaching, flight time, gear & videos are free if you provide your own tape. Skydiver coach & tunnel rat. Also see the tunnel coaching links on the DZ.com Tunnel page: http://www.dropzone.com/links/Training_and_Coaching/Wind_Tunnels/index.html These are the two tunnels closest to you.. AAC about 6 hours, and Flyaway about 7.5 hours by car. Flyaway is more for fun than intense skydiving training and AAC is good for realistic freefall practice. and of course everyone else already mentioned SkyVenture Orlando. There are other tunnels here in the States, but these 3 are all within close proximity to Ft. Bragg. Good luck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stacy 0 #13 January 14, 2005 I've had some excellent freelance coaches in the tunnel. Yep, some were pricey, but the $$ was well worth it. It's ALWAYS cheaper to go with a group of people though and split the fees. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 7 #14 January 14, 2005 QuoteHow much does tunnel time cost? Depends on the tunnel and how much time you get. Skyventure Orlando it's 630/hr. QuoteCoach instruction? 100/hr is what I charge...Some charge more. Quote Video? Bring a tape and it's free. A good thing to do is a camp. Airspeed has camps, my team holds camps. We charge 630/hr and 100/day coaching. A very fair rate. More info: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1314150#1314150"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Paige 0 #15 January 14, 2005 QuoteI'm with you on that one. I hate being in the work world when I *should* be in the tunnel or the air U work at home that doesn't count Makes for great lunch breaks thoughTunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Paige 0 #16 January 14, 2005 QuoteYes, there are some great coaches out there that teach very well in the tunnel. Just ask Mailin, I've attached a picture of her first AFF jump after about 1 1/2 hours of training with Olaf. Olaf also helped me a ton. I like his style of coaching, he'll push you but give you the right tools to succeed. Most of the tunnel coaches are hot too! I never mind too much being manhandled when I screw up . Esp. some of those freelancers, man they are smokinTunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #17 January 14, 2005 Quote[We charge 630/hr and 100/day coaching. A very fair rate. Ron - You might want to edit that bit. You guys are worth more than that. General comment - Organizing a camp of several jumpers works nicely as the tunnel offers discounts for large hour blocks (12 hours for the price of 10, e.g.). That savings can be used to offset coaching costs. Everyone wins. Best to find a good coach who can also organize a large camp - that's what we do. This time around we are hoping for a block of 24 hours. We're close, and looking forward to a huge learning experience with top notch coaches. And those guys work hard in that tunnel, imagine 4 to 6 hours a day in the tunnel with more than half of that flying hard - do that 2 or 3 days in a row...... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Ron 7 #14 January 14, 2005 QuoteHow much does tunnel time cost? Depends on the tunnel and how much time you get. Skyventure Orlando it's 630/hr. QuoteCoach instruction? 100/hr is what I charge...Some charge more. Quote Video? Bring a tape and it's free. A good thing to do is a camp. Airspeed has camps, my team holds camps. We charge 630/hr and 100/day coaching. A very fair rate. More info: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1314150#1314150"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paige 0 #15 January 14, 2005 QuoteI'm with you on that one. I hate being in the work world when I *should* be in the tunnel or the air U work at home that doesn't count Makes for great lunch breaks thoughTunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paige 0 #16 January 14, 2005 QuoteYes, there are some great coaches out there that teach very well in the tunnel. Just ask Mailin, I've attached a picture of her first AFF jump after about 1 1/2 hours of training with Olaf. Olaf also helped me a ton. I like his style of coaching, he'll push you but give you the right tools to succeed. Most of the tunnel coaches are hot too! I never mind too much being manhandled when I screw up . Esp. some of those freelancers, man they are smokinTunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #17 January 14, 2005 Quote[We charge 630/hr and 100/day coaching. A very fair rate. Ron - You might want to edit that bit. You guys are worth more than that. General comment - Organizing a camp of several jumpers works nicely as the tunnel offers discounts for large hour blocks (12 hours for the price of 10, e.g.). That savings can be used to offset coaching costs. Everyone wins. Best to find a good coach who can also organize a large camp - that's what we do. This time around we are hoping for a block of 24 hours. We're close, and looking forward to a huge learning experience with top notch coaches. And those guys work hard in that tunnel, imagine 4 to 6 hours a day in the tunnel with more than half of that flying hard - do that 2 or 3 days in a row...... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
