Jessica 0 #1 December 7, 2001 Anybody have any thoughts or information on these? It's a big chunk o' change...but an hour of coached wind tunnel time, is, to my mind...worth about 60 jumps of training? Is this faulty logic? Pet me! I'm harmless and cute! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stacy 0 #2 December 7, 2001 60 minutes of tunnel time may seem like it is equivalent to 60 skydives.. it is actually more that that. usually you are in teh tunnel for 2-3 minute increments, divided up between other camp participants. between flights, you debreif, go over video, etc et. tunnel is invaluable and is an incredible learning tool. If you are looking for a camp, try an airspeed one or one organized by deland majik.Stacyhttp://users.snip.net/~stacy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #3 December 7, 2001 I haven't been in a tunnel yet. Hoping to get down there with Pat McGowan in the spring if he puts the camp he was talking about together. My boss was just down there and raved about it - she was working on the mantis position and made major improvements in her body position while there (she has over 6k jumps btw...). And Eliana Rodriguez (sp??) has loads of tunnel time, which probably helped alot in securing her the first ever female slot on Airspeed at less than 1000 jumps... If I could afford it I'd already have been there! I don't think it would be a waste of money for any level RW jumper to attend an Airspeed tunnel camp. pull and flare,lisa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jessica 0 #4 December 7, 2001 QuoteI don't think it would be a waste of money for any level RW jumper to attend an Airspeed tunnel camp.Y'know what? I'm gonna do it. Just bought plane tix on Southwest for $118. YEEEHAW.Pet me! I'm harmless and cute! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skip 0 #5 December 8, 2001 Where could I find some information on a camp? Prices, location etc. I was going to fly down to Vegas for a few turns at Fly Away, however an hour or so in a tunnel sounds much more beneficial. Thanks. .:skip Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #6 December 8, 2001 skip, there's a link to the Airspeed tunnel camp info on the SkyVenture website - http://www.skyventure.com/Let us know how it was when you get back, Jessica! I'm jealous pull and flare,lisa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #7 December 8, 2001 There are huge differences in tunnels too. Flyaway in vegas and Tennessee are pushers. A huge engine in the floor spins a prop (A DC-3 Disclaimer, I've never been in the tunnel flying, just went and watched the one in Vegas and Tennessee.I want to touch the sky, I want to fly so high ~ Sonique Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #8 December 8, 2001 ive been to skyventure(when my collarbone was broken) i needed to play , it wasnt for a camp. but i'm loking forward to going to vegas. ill live right there. once i get set up any time ANY of you need a place, you got it.i cant wait to be there. i found some info on stuuf there it should be a very UNboring time.Have fun, LIVE FREE, SkydiveJT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirils 1 #9 December 8, 2001 My partner and I went to SkyVenture. It was the best money I think I've spent for training! We both had 40 min over 8 sessions. What am incredible tool to fine tune RW. It brought to my attention problems I never realized were there. (my flying was really sloppy). Down side: I don't think it's a great tool for freefly training. Head down was impossible and it was tough getting into a sit. Skydiving is not a static excercise with discrete predictability... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jessica 0 #10 December 8, 2001 QuoteLet us know how it was when you get back, Jessica! I'm jealous.Ah, the camp's not until March.On the downside, I won't be able to buy a new main for a looooong time now....But I'm so excited!For info: http://www.tunnelcamp.comPet me! I'm harmless and cute! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ojf1982 0 #11 December 8, 2001 If you see in the november issue of Parashutist, in their article of the Skyventure tunnel, there is a picture of 2 headdowners in the tunnel. It might be hard but not impossibleSkydiving is not a sport, it is a way of life!Omar B-24801 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #12 December 8, 2001 you could (and should) consider other coaching options in the tunnel. Doug Park, Joey Jones, Shannon Pilcher et al, have an incredible amount of tunnel time and were using it as a teaching tool right after it opened. compare what you get with them vs. airspeed. you may be pleasantly surprised. I'm lucky enough to have 20+ hours in there (it's a guess, but fairly accurate) -- it is an EXCELLENT learning tool. Coaches get in there and can change body position (yours) and demonstate correct mechanics, and you get tons of repetition building muscle memory. caution -- you will get sore in the ol' pectorals if you're in there a lot, you may want to do push ups and the like to get ready for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #13 December 8, 2001 depending on the speed of the air (if it's cooler out it's faster), you can do all sorts of stuff, sit, tee's, back fly, etc. I have seen someone get their head stuck in teh netting though (it was funny) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stacy 0 #14 December 8, 2001 was jetstream abandoning training again to freefly? =c)Stacyhttp://users.snip.net/~stacy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickMcMahon 0 #15 December 8, 2001 I went to SkyVenture in Orlando last June for the "Touch of Magic" tunnel skills camp. Prior to that I was having major problems with instability in freefall. In the tunnel you don't have to worry about altitude ... you can concentrate fully on what various body movements do against the wind.The only problem I had was in losing one of my earplugs ... the noise is incredible!My coaches were great and the tunnel personnel are veryfriendly. It ain't cheap ... but it's worth it! Go for it!http://www.dickmcmahon.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skip 0 #16 December 8, 2001 I'm sold, good thread! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #17 December 8, 2001 only knee flying and back flying.... it looks easier than it is Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jessica 0 #18 December 8, 2001 Hooray! Come to the March 7-9 camp. Pet me! I'm harmless and cute! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cheeseburger 0 #19 December 23, 2001 I fortunately was able to attend Airspeeds 6 day "mega camp" this past Nov 1-6. IT WAS AWESOME!!! It in all reality is just 2 3day camps put together, no more and no less. But trust me, thats a good thing, I'll explain why later. First of all I'd reccommend the airspeed camp to anyone for 3 reasons1) Its like having Michael Jordan teaching you how to play basketball2) The instructors not only are world champions they are the friendliest most down to earth group of people you could ever care to meet. And thier teaching abilities were awesome!3) The confidence that you have when you jump back into real skydiving is phenomenal.In the camp, you work on a lot of different aspects of the skydive, from body position to actual mechanics of movement, super positioning, fall rate adjustments, etc. This course is perfect for anyone interested in RW or AFF instructor. Since you're asking Airspeed to teach you, several of the lessons are dedicated to RW, but even if that's not your thing, the skills easily translate to other disciplines in skydiving.I mentioned the 6 day vs. the 3 day camp. Its all about learning curves baby. I'm naturally thick headed. So I found myself making major and I do mean MAJOR breakthroughs in the 5th day. Not to say that I wasnt better by magnitudes on the 3rd day, but still, I'm very glad that I went to the second camp. I guess I should shut up. If I took the time to tell you all the good points and what I learned, it'd be too much, but I'll happily answer any questions ya'll might have. The syllabus is posted on www.tunnelcamp.com 3 quick examples and I'll shut up1) A 14 year old kid who never jumped learened all the skills necessary to pass the flying portions of the AFF course in 2 days and polished it on the 3rd (he's from Germany, not sure if he can jump when he gets back home)2) Me... went in with 120ish jumps. I've done numerous RW jumps since coming home and everyone is amazed at the improvement3) The 14 year old kids dad. Had 2200 jumps coming in. He looked great to begin with and 3 days later, he looked like he should be competingNuff saidpeace and cheesiness Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Jessica 0 #18 December 8, 2001 Hooray! Come to the March 7-9 camp. Pet me! I'm harmless and cute! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cheeseburger 0 #19 December 23, 2001 I fortunately was able to attend Airspeeds 6 day "mega camp" this past Nov 1-6. IT WAS AWESOME!!! It in all reality is just 2 3day camps put together, no more and no less. But trust me, thats a good thing, I'll explain why later. First of all I'd reccommend the airspeed camp to anyone for 3 reasons1) Its like having Michael Jordan teaching you how to play basketball2) The instructors not only are world champions they are the friendliest most down to earth group of people you could ever care to meet. And thier teaching abilities were awesome!3) The confidence that you have when you jump back into real skydiving is phenomenal.In the camp, you work on a lot of different aspects of the skydive, from body position to actual mechanics of movement, super positioning, fall rate adjustments, etc. This course is perfect for anyone interested in RW or AFF instructor. Since you're asking Airspeed to teach you, several of the lessons are dedicated to RW, but even if that's not your thing, the skills easily translate to other disciplines in skydiving.I mentioned the 6 day vs. the 3 day camp. Its all about learning curves baby. I'm naturally thick headed. So I found myself making major and I do mean MAJOR breakthroughs in the 5th day. Not to say that I wasnt better by magnitudes on the 3rd day, but still, I'm very glad that I went to the second camp. I guess I should shut up. If I took the time to tell you all the good points and what I learned, it'd be too much, but I'll happily answer any questions ya'll might have. The syllabus is posted on www.tunnelcamp.com 3 quick examples and I'll shut up1) A 14 year old kid who never jumped learened all the skills necessary to pass the flying portions of the AFF course in 2 days and polished it on the 3rd (he's from Germany, not sure if he can jump when he gets back home)2) Me... went in with 120ish jumps. I've done numerous RW jumps since coming home and everyone is amazed at the improvement3) The 14 year old kids dad. Had 2200 jumps coming in. He looked great to begin with and 3 days later, he looked like he should be competingNuff saidpeace and cheesiness Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
