1st jump freefall training near Cleveland 15 years ago?

[sundevil777 93]

I met a guy that says about 15 years ago he did a first jump near Cleveland that had him doing real freefall on his first jump, with instructors following, but not holding on like normal AFF. I think he was lying, but wanted to see if there was anyone that knew of a bandit DZ that might have been doing this.

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[JohnRich 4]

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I met a guy that says about 15 years ago he did a first jump near Cleveland that had him doing real freefall on his first jump, with instructors following, but not holding on like normal AFF. I think he was lying, but wanted to see if there was anyone that knew of a bandit DZ that might have been doing this.

I don't know about Ohio, but Indiantown, Florida used to put 1st jump students out in freefall, by themselves. That was some 25 years ago. They had KAP-3 AAD's on the main, and SSE AAD's on the reserves. And it wasn't a bandit operation either, they had a waiver from USPA to do that. So, such things did happen, and it doesn't necessarily mean they were rogues.

[lekstrom10k 0]

That would have been Poppenhagers place . If it was good for Paul its good for me

[skypuppy 1]

I've heard of such methods in the 60's and even the early 70's, but 25 years ago would be 1987 -- you sure it wasn't earlier than that?

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[JohnRich 4]

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I've heard of such methods in the 60's and even the early 70's, but 25 years ago would be 1987 -- you sure it wasn't earlier than that?

They were probably doing it earlier too. But I didn't start jumping at Indiantown until 1980, and it was still a practice at that time, and up until they closed down in the mid/late-1980's.

[davelepka 4]

I'd call bullshit. I was jumping around Cleveland 15 years ago, and this wasn't going on. Static line, AFF, tandem, all happening, solo freefalls for a first jump, not so much.

[grimmie 173]

My first jump was a static line, 1980' Cleveland SPC. No freefall there. But I'm not too sure, since my eyes were closed.