BIGUN 1,053 #1 July 24, 2008 In a Barber Shop; Barber has this and a couple more like it posted on his wall... We talk... He lets me have the picture and asks for its return. Name one of the guys who concocted this idea (his name was on the picture, but I PS'd it out... The year it happened... Where Hint 1... The airplane ad is NOT a clue of where Hint 2... The airplane is sitting right now where it happened You can prolly guess what kind of plane... so I left that off the test question Man, talk about a historical find...Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,048 #2 July 24, 2008 Hi BIGUN, Fresno in 1964. That's Lyle Cameron on the top of the fuselage. The aircraft was used for US Team tryouts & training prior to the '64 World Meet. RE: Hint 2... The airplane is sitting right now where it happened That aircraft is now owned by Jack Ady ( 1964 US Nat'l Champ ) and is sitting in Snohomish, WA. Right/wrong????? I talked with Jack last summer and it needs a full fuselage covering and he does not want to spend the money to do it. I doubt that she will ever fly again; unless some lottery winner buys it from Jack and restores her. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #3 July 24, 2008 For a short time, I used to volunteer at the San Diego Air and Space museum in the rehab shop downstairs. If an airplane has some historical significance, they would consider taking it on as a project. It's a huge longshot, but maybe they might be interested.50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,053 #4 July 24, 2008 8 minutes?!?!? You are right on all counts, except... I was "told" Jack Ady was on the jump, the year was 1963, the jump was done in Snohomish. Damn.. You're good. I thought I'd found a stumper. Dammit. For the others... It's a Fairchild 71. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #5 July 25, 2008 Quote You are right on all counts, except... I was told Jack Ady was on the jump, the year was 1963, the jump was done in Snohomish. Damn.. You're good. I thought I'd found a stumper. Dammit. For the others... It's a Fairchild 71. Okay I gotta question...What the Hell were YOU doin' in a BARBER SHOP?! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,053 #6 July 25, 2008 They only charge me 50% Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #7 July 25, 2008 Quote Okay I gotta question...What the Hell were YOU doin' in a BARBER SHOP?! Same as me, getting my back shaved.50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 5 #8 July 25, 2008 Well, it's obviously a very easy one, as lots of other people have already correctly IDed it. It was a Sky Diver cover (don't have the date at hand), and I have a slightly better scan of it. In fact I'd already posted a black and white version of it here, and there were responses. The scans I posted earlier were in Howard Gregory's book, "Parachuting's Unforgettable Jumps III."(1987). The photo was taken by Luis Melendez Jr. using a 4x5 Speed Graphic (for those not familiar with it, that's the classic old news photographer's camera often seen in old movies.) The jumpers are Lyle Cameron, Susie Bateman, Rick Remler, Billy Lockward, Ed Melendez, Chip Maury, Hector Nunez, Rick Montez, Andy Skrodinsky, and Jim Hyland. Gregory's book has almost two full pages of Melendez's description of how the picture was taken; in short, he worked for about eight months and a lot of jumps before he got this one. Chip Maury was himself a well-known and prolific skydiving photographer; he retired a few years ago from teaching and now lives in New York state; I exchange email with him from time to time and would love to get a look at the huge volume of neat pictures he's made. I've also posted elsewhere another famous picture of Chip, Cameron and others on the outside of another plane in flight. Attached is the exit shot associated with the original pic. HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,053 #9 July 25, 2008 Well, I thought I had come across this little piece of unknown history when the guy told me Jack was on the jump, in Snohomish in 1963. I'm gonna see if I can trip over another treasure that may be more challenging for you gentlemen. My apologies to Jerry - I was working off third-party information.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,048 #10 July 25, 2008 Hi BIGUN, No apologies ever needed for me; well unless . . . Nope, Jack bought her in about '65 or so. And I know the photo was taken in '64; or else I gotta go see some type of head-doctor 'cause I'm doomed. I first met Jack at a competition here in the Portland-area in '65. He had just come down to watch and I was talking to him and Cameron ( who was judging the meet ). The PCA ( name before USPA ) did not have any money to send a US Team overseas that year. So Cameron asked Jack if he would be willing to go on a US Team if he had to pay his own way & Jack said 'Hell, yes.' But the Army boys represented the USA in international competition that year. Jack never was on a US Team. Jack Ady never entered another competition after winning the US Championship in '64. But he is still a hell of a good guy; and I would not want to tangle with him. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,053 #11 July 25, 2008 Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poppenhager 1 #12 July 26, 2008 It was used at the 1964 nationals in Alta,Ut.It was hot and the DZ was 5000'above SL(I was busting my ass landing with my 28'7/TU LoPo) but fell in love with that GIANT CUB.It was a super jump ship for the day.Jack beat me out for 1st in style and is a super sportsman and competitor. POP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skr 1 #13 July 28, 2008 I remember that as Oceanside in the early mid 60s. That's Lyle up on top, Suzie Bateman in the door, Jim Hyland (blue jumpsuit) and Bill Spargur (big guy) hanging underneath, Hector Nunez with the blue piggyback, Chip Maury sitting on the wheel, and the rest were Oceanside regulars plus a couple people (Billy Lockward?) and a couple others who came down just for this picture. We did it several times, with Jack Zahnizer, the pilot, going up to 6 or 7,000 ft, then everybody climbing out, and Jack coasting slowly over the country side, gradually losing altitude, until people got tired and fell off, or he made a pass over the dropzone and people got off. I'm pretty sure it was Luis Melendez filming. That Fairchild was a great airplane. My logbooks are still packed from this move, but I'll look one of these days and get dates and more names. Skr Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,048 #14 July 28, 2008 Hi pop, One other little bit of trivia: The DZO's of Alta, UT at the time were Bill Dause and Dick Simon. Dick Simon got out of jumping and became a race car driver; he drove probably 10 times in the Indy 500. Bill Dause, well he . . . . JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patmoore 14 #15 July 31, 2008 QuoteIt was used at the 1964 nationals in Alta,Ut.It was hot and the DZ was 5000'above SL(I was busting my ass landing with my 28'7/TU LoPo) but fell in love with that GIANT CUB.It was a super jump ship for the day.Jack beat me out for 1st in style and is a super sportsman and competitor. POP Pop! Just stumbled on this site a few days ago. I don't know if you remember me but I made the annual trek to your Christmas/New Year's meet in Indiantown every year from 67 until I moved to DC. Even met my first wife there. I was so dirt poor that you let me stay in the cab of Lou Bell's tractor trailer. I watched your 5000th jump and I thought you'd never pull. Someone who followed you way down (500 feet?) confided in me that he had never been so scared in his life. I think it might have been Frank Rodriguez. It's great to run into you again after more than 30 years! Pat MooreDZGone.com B-4600, C-3615, D-1814, Gold Wings #326, Diamond Wings #152. If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
