dbcoopercatcher 0 #926 January 8, 2008 Excellent question. Also, cooper may not have left any of his prints, but Ted's are on file. Have all the prints from the plane been run through AFIS? It wasn't around back then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dbcoopercatcher 0 #927 January 8, 2008 Tina wouldn't talk to us. Can't blame her, She did evidently become uncooperative on the case fairly quickly - even to the FBI. I wonder why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ckret 0 #928 January 8, 2008 Yes Mayfield called the FBI less than two hours after the jump. To add to the mix, whoever Cooper was, when he jumped he did not know where he was. He jumped totally blind, in that he did not give direction to the crew nor did he ever ask for and update as to where the aircraft was at any point prior to the jump. If Cooper somehow knew the flight path and was counting on a dropzone along the flight path, he still would have had to ask for an update from the crew. And even then with the winds he would have been blown so far off the flight path there would have been little hope of hitting anything close to planned DZ. With this I don't see how it is possible for Mayfield to have made the call. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
low_pull1 2 #929 January 8, 2008 Speaking of Jo, to give her credit. ............... she tends to be pretty good at responding. ................... She has asked me questions, intending to follow every bit of info....research every lead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ckret 0 #930 January 8, 2008 There is nothing that points to Tina being unreliable nor has she been uncooperative with the FBI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
low_pull1 2 #931 January 8, 2008 only noticed if they had crotchless panties .......................... did you take notice of everyone that got on the plane ............ smile....make this fun, even if it is serious! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
low_pull1 2 #932 January 8, 2008 QuoteEvery hotel and motel was checked, every suspicious incident that occurred in the area of the probable DZ was looked into and no viable leads were developed. any leads at all? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
low_pull1 2 #933 January 8, 2008 ................. Anybody ask Ralph what he thinks? ........................................ how did Ralph obtain so many parachutes in a "not so lucrative" business..... was he ever a suspect? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
low_pull1 2 #934 January 8, 2008 a pair of shoes would not made a difference in this case (i lovely pair of toasty warm slippers could have been made from a parachute and lines) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ckret 0 #935 January 8, 2008 none that led anywhere Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
low_pull1 2 #936 January 8, 2008 is there any possibility that the rest of the crew might have been involved? or a possibility that the jump never happened ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
low_pull1 2 #937 January 8, 2008 any old timers think that Cooper was someone they know? who? a guess is better than nothing! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #938 January 8, 2008 What is the scoop on the DNA? How is this new evidence? Is there a kazillion different samples? On the neck area, is there one preponderant sample? What information can be ascertained? Eye color? (Hair color can be dyed temporarily.) It was OJ, wasn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJack 1 #939 January 8, 2008 Hey Ckret, I have a question about the money Cooper received. I understand that every serial number of every $20 bill had been recorded prior to the money being handed over. And I understand that not one single bill of this money has ever surfaced in general circulation. 1. What was the procedure for looking for these bills? 2. Are they still being looked for? If not, when did the checking stop? Edited to remove typo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dbcoopercatcher 0 #940 January 8, 2008 QuoteYes Mayfield called the FBI less than two hours after the jump. To add to the mix, whoever Cooper was, when he jumped he did not know where he was. He jumped totally blind, in that he did not give direction to the crew nor did he ever ask for and update as to where the aircraft was at any point prior to the jump. If Cooper somehow knew the flight path and was counting on a dropzone along the flight path, he still would have had to ask for an update from the crew. And even then with the winds he would have been blown so far off the flight path there would have been little hope of hitting anything close to planned DZ. With this I don't see how it is possible for Mayfield to have made the call. And maybe the FBI is still making mistakes. You state assumptions, however probable, as facts and then stack them together to support a conclusion. There is no way to know that he had no idea where he was. Totally blind? Guess that explains the dark glasses. What time exactly did he call? The FBI does tests to come up with emperical evidence and timelines sometimes. Here? I'm only interested in empirical evidence. Speaking of opinions of I don't see how, So Cooper was badly injured enough that he hiked miles away from I-5 way up and over into a different (Washougal) drainage and then died. Money into a creek or several, bounced down into the Washougal and then Columbia and lands with rubber bands unbroken to be found burried, but never a body a buckle or a canopy. Likely? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dbcoopercatcher 0 #941 January 8, 2008 The person that Dan talked to from treasury said that they only destroy old, worn bills and did not check numbers. Likely if Cooper suvived and spent, the odds are they would have passed unnoticed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 177 #942 January 8, 2008 Were any Canadian DZ's looked into? Canadian military, or jumpers? Just a late night off the wall thought... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dbcoopercatcher 0 #943 January 8, 2008 In reply to Tina never being uncooperative, Ralph must have been mistaken. Have you talked to her? I can give you her number. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dbcoopercatcher 0 #944 January 8, 2008 Good thinkin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #945 January 8, 2008 I can understand the money being buried by a stream as it moves sand around. The rubber bands being intact is amazing. Cash could be washed a long way down a hillside into a stream and travel in a bag, then buried by sand. (I've seen it happen to small boats in just days.) The rubber bands are a problem though. He told the crew to travel at 10,000 ft. At our dz, a group of ex-airborne guys regularly jumps rounds. A small wind carries them a horizontal distance that is multiples of their vertical opening altitude. If he opened at 9,000 ft with a strong wind, he might could drift quite a ways in a storm. In that storm and temperature, without protection, a lot of time aloft might have been fatal though. However, that might account for the position of the cash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #946 January 8, 2008 Quote btw if she was threatened, wouldn't the normal thing to do be to go to the cops? or get a protection order from the courts? or something? I did tell the FBI more than once - the FBI just told me to call the local sheriffs Dept. I had not gone public at that time. JUST WHAT THE XXXX do YOU THING the Locals Could have done. THe individual threatening me did not live in this area! Only my friends, a private detective and relatives knew anything about what was going on. THis is the kind of thing Catcher put me thru before and I see that there are over 41 posts to go thru . FOR THE INFORMATION OF ANYONE INTERESTED THEY CAN GO READ THE FORUM THAT DBCOOPERCATCHER IS TALKING ABOUT - THEY WERE THE ONES ATTACKING ME. The proof is in the reading of that whole thread. I told you guys before that Catcher and his friend were in this thread - one of them got a 30 day lockout for his behavior. He was disruptive and remember his posts!Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 21 #947 January 8, 2008 What EXACTLY did Cooper say when he requested 4 chutes? Did he say I want 4 parachutes? Did he use the words reserve or main or chest mount? I have always doubted that he was a skydiver, but there may be a clue in how he ordered his chutes. If he was a skydiver and died in the jump I think his absence would have been noticed and people would have started speculating, especially if he resembled the sketches. If he survived the landing, walked out and told no one, it would be damned tough to figure out who he was without a DNA match. He likely lost most or all of the money during the jump so he would not have been a conspicuous spender after the caper.2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #948 January 8, 2008 Quote In my butt-in opinion, the DNA on the tie is not a rock solid lock, but is much more than 'much less of a sure thing.' It would be enough to shut me up about this, permanently. No conspiracy theory talk.. ---------------------------------------------------------- Well, my dear - it does not SHUT me up and it never will until the FBI talks to me. Just what do you think they got Duane's DNA from? - the FBI never told me what items they used to extract DNA - a few guys tried on those gloves at a garage sale, the tools were used by many, the metal of an old bridge had been washed and rinsed by me and put with our old gold and silver, the shaver had been cleaned by me and used by me and a friend of mine, the pipe had been in my mouth and the mouth of that same friend and a couple of people who viewed his collection besides Duane - there should have been 5 sets of DNA on that pipe (those pipes might be the only things that may have held his DNA as I was reluctant to let them go...but a few people did look at them and hold them in their mouth.) This is only a short rundown - and until the FBI informs me as to what items they extracted the same DNA from to decide what Duane's DNA was - I don't know that they have isolated his DNA. Remember I didn't understand what he had told me until 14 months later and I had cleaned and given things away. I sold things. I had a life and that included a couple of gentlemen friends. Yet, the FBI never asked me any questions about who else may have used the items. I would have been nice if the FBI had informed me more than 24 before going public with their claim about the DNA. The old envelopes - we did not know if Duane sealed them or if someone from the prison did so. If DNA from one of those envelopes matched the DNA on the other items that could be conclusive. NOW I HAVE HAD TO DIVULGE MY PRIVATE LIFE TO DEFEND MYSELF, BUT AT THIS STAGE OF THE GAME WHO GIVES A HOOT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #949 January 8, 2008 Quote Ckret, It would have been somthing the crew would have paid no attention to Cooper stowing a bag or retriving a bag cause it's somthing they see a thousand times a month. __________________________________________________the FBI to check into the work background of Duane and one of this lady friends - both or one worked as PART of a cleaning crew at an airport. This is something he told me yrs ago. It was a brief employement. Ckret are you listening? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #950 January 8, 2008 Quote Jo None of the statements from any of the witnesses describe anything sticking out of the bottom of Cooper's pants. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
