Texas_Diver 0 #1 August 20, 2005 What is that little chute called that the jumpmaster opened immediately after we exited the plane on my two tandem jumps? (It was opened approx 45 secs prior to the main chute being opened.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EvilLurker 2 #2 August 20, 2005 A drogue. It's to slow a tandem pair down to normal freefall speeds, since you have 2 people's weight and the drag of a single person. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texas_Diver 0 #3 August 20, 2005 Thanks! Is it used in solo jumps? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katzurki 0 #4 August 20, 2005 Almost never. I guess the only instance of practical use would be a person working on their tandem rating which requires them to jump the tandem rig solo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EvilLurker 2 #5 August 20, 2005 Solo rigs don't have them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texas_Diver 0 #6 August 20, 2005 Ok...thanks for the info, everyone! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggerrob 562 #7 August 21, 2005 A few military solo rigs have drogues, but they also have 500 bundles on front. Hee! Hee! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Texas_Diver 0 #8 August 21, 2005 QuoteA few military solo rigs have drogues, but they also have 500 bundles on front. Hee! Hee! I don't know what that means but I get the impression that your post wasn't to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 14 #9 August 21, 2005 QuoteA few military solo rigs have drogues, but they also have 500 bundles on front. Hee! Hee! That's a lot of bundles. How much does each one weigh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DanglesOZQld 0 #10 August 21, 2005 In Australia we don't need to do a solo tandem or have at least one cutaway prior to TM rating........ BSBD! -Mark. "A Scar is just a Tattoo with a story!!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BIGUN 1,106 #11 August 21, 2005 Roughly a # Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites scrublink 0 #12 August 21, 2005 Up until about 2000 I knew of at least one DZ that did student training under drogue equipped rigs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 14 #13 August 21, 2005 QuoteUp until about 2000 I knew of at least one DZ that did student training under drogue equipped rigs. No kidding! That could have some real advantages and disadvantages. Some smoke jumpers use a drogue and square parachute system, too, instead of SL rounds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites scrublink 0 #14 August 21, 2005 Yeah. We used to have big debates about the obvious pros and cons. One of the typical problems students had with this system way a tendency to spin. You really had to arch hard, as the droque tried to de-arch you. The student program went something like this: 5 tandems, 3 drogue solos, and then non-drogue solos. The dropzone was very conservative, cessna type. Mom and Pop style if you will. Everybody knew each other and looked out for each other. Good safety record with both students and experienced jumpers. Most people have never heard of drogue solos, but I was told they were common training aids in Russia. I can't confirm this, but the guy who told me could probably find better things to bullshit me on than this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites katzurki 0 #15 August 21, 2005 QuoteMost people have never heard of drogue solos, but I was told they were common training aids in Russia. Oh, yes indeed, they are -- if you go the old-fashioned learning way, you get a "drogue" on D-series round canopy rigs when the student makes his 3-second, 5-second, 10-second and 20-second delays, to then move on to a drogueless Paracommander-like round rig for their 30-second delay. Okay, we do AFF too, I swear Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites scrublink 0 #16 August 23, 2005 At least this dz was using squares. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
riggerrob 562 #7 August 21, 2005 A few military solo rigs have drogues, but they also have 500 bundles on front. Hee! Hee! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texas_Diver 0 #8 August 21, 2005 QuoteA few military solo rigs have drogues, but they also have 500 bundles on front. Hee! Hee! I don't know what that means but I get the impression that your post wasn't to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 14 #9 August 21, 2005 QuoteA few military solo rigs have drogues, but they also have 500 bundles on front. Hee! Hee! That's a lot of bundles. How much does each one weigh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DanglesOZQld 0 #10 August 21, 2005 In Australia we don't need to do a solo tandem or have at least one cutaway prior to TM rating........ BSBD! -Mark. "A Scar is just a Tattoo with a story!!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BIGUN 1,106 #11 August 21, 2005 Roughly a # Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites scrublink 0 #12 August 21, 2005 Up until about 2000 I knew of at least one DZ that did student training under drogue equipped rigs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 14 #13 August 21, 2005 QuoteUp until about 2000 I knew of at least one DZ that did student training under drogue equipped rigs. No kidding! That could have some real advantages and disadvantages. Some smoke jumpers use a drogue and square parachute system, too, instead of SL rounds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites scrublink 0 #14 August 21, 2005 Yeah. We used to have big debates about the obvious pros and cons. One of the typical problems students had with this system way a tendency to spin. You really had to arch hard, as the droque tried to de-arch you. The student program went something like this: 5 tandems, 3 drogue solos, and then non-drogue solos. The dropzone was very conservative, cessna type. Mom and Pop style if you will. Everybody knew each other and looked out for each other. Good safety record with both students and experienced jumpers. Most people have never heard of drogue solos, but I was told they were common training aids in Russia. I can't confirm this, but the guy who told me could probably find better things to bullshit me on than this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites katzurki 0 #15 August 21, 2005 QuoteMost people have never heard of drogue solos, but I was told they were common training aids in Russia. Oh, yes indeed, they are -- if you go the old-fashioned learning way, you get a "drogue" on D-series round canopy rigs when the student makes his 3-second, 5-second, 10-second and 20-second delays, to then move on to a drogueless Paracommander-like round rig for their 30-second delay. Okay, we do AFF too, I swear Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites scrublink 0 #16 August 23, 2005 At least this dz was using squares. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
JohnMitchell 14 #9 August 21, 2005 QuoteA few military solo rigs have drogues, but they also have 500 bundles on front. Hee! Hee! That's a lot of bundles. How much does each one weigh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanglesOZQld 0 #10 August 21, 2005 In Australia we don't need to do a solo tandem or have at least one cutaway prior to TM rating........ BSBD! -Mark. "A Scar is just a Tattoo with a story!!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,106 #11 August 21, 2005 Roughly a # Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scrublink 0 #12 August 21, 2005 Up until about 2000 I knew of at least one DZ that did student training under drogue equipped rigs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #13 August 21, 2005 QuoteUp until about 2000 I knew of at least one DZ that did student training under drogue equipped rigs. No kidding! That could have some real advantages and disadvantages. Some smoke jumpers use a drogue and square parachute system, too, instead of SL rounds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scrublink 0 #14 August 21, 2005 Yeah. We used to have big debates about the obvious pros and cons. One of the typical problems students had with this system way a tendency to spin. You really had to arch hard, as the droque tried to de-arch you. The student program went something like this: 5 tandems, 3 drogue solos, and then non-drogue solos. The dropzone was very conservative, cessna type. Mom and Pop style if you will. Everybody knew each other and looked out for each other. Good safety record with both students and experienced jumpers. Most people have never heard of drogue solos, but I was told they were common training aids in Russia. I can't confirm this, but the guy who told me could probably find better things to bullshit me on than this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katzurki 0 #15 August 21, 2005 QuoteMost people have never heard of drogue solos, but I was told they were common training aids in Russia. Oh, yes indeed, they are -- if you go the old-fashioned learning way, you get a "drogue" on D-series round canopy rigs when the student makes his 3-second, 5-second, 10-second and 20-second delays, to then move on to a drogueless Paracommander-like round rig for their 30-second delay. Okay, we do AFF too, I swear Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites scrublink 0 #16 August 23, 2005 At least this dz was using squares. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
scrublink 0 #16 August 23, 2005 At least this dz was using squares. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
