F104 Starfighter 5 #1 Posted May 15 (edited) Youtube Video here: Edited May 15 by F104 Starfighter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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kleggo 138 #9 May 15 more flights planned 6 & 7 July 2024 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F104 Starfighter 5 #10 May 15 22 minutes ago, kleggo said: more flights planned 6 & 7 July 2024 Is there a short term and long term plan for this Jet flying Skydivers at Perris? Is it stored indoors or outdoors? How many Jumpers does it haul? What is its time to load, unload, reload? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigbearfng 16 #11 May 16 I don't know the long term plan, that's up to the Conasters. It sits outside, next to the hanger. They take their time to brief everyone, so it is shut down between loads. As for "unload" as you can see in the videos everyone runs out, they were putting 80 out on one pass! It was $150.00 the first week, but it looks like they had to recalc costs as now it will be $200.00 a jump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bokdrol 41 #12 May 16 Looks like fun. Do the toilets work? At my age I need to pee at about 10grand....last time I jumped out of anything that had seats that comfy looking it was an old Antonov Bi-Plane that took about 30 mins to get to 4 grand for h&p only. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F104 Starfighter 5 #13 May 16 16 hours ago, bigbearfng said: I don't know the long term plan, that's up to the Conasters. It sits outside, next to the hanger. They take their time to brief everyone, so it is shut down between loads. As for "unload" as you can see in the videos everyone runs out, they were putting 80 out on one pass! It was $150.00 the first week, but it looks like they had to recalc costs as now it will be $200.00 a jump. 80 Jumpers at $150 = $12,000. 80 Jumpers at $200 = $16,000. Does shutting down the Engines for reloads add a significant amount to the operating costs? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigbearfng 16 #14 May 17 I would think if it's sitting idling waiting for 80 people to load that would cost more than shut down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,365 #15 May 17 (edited) 16 hours ago, F104 Starfighter said: 80 Jumpers at $150 = $12,000. 80 Jumpers at $200 = $16,000. Does shutting down the Engines for reloads add a significant amount to the operating costs? It can. Turbines operate with two 'counting limits'. One is hours of operation. The other is 'cycles' (startups). Turbines love to run. Keep it running, no major power changes, no major temp changes and it will run for a very long time. Starting up puts a lot of wear and tear on them. That's one reason DZOs try very hard to keep a turbine powered plane turning. And why they 'hot fuel'. Edit to add: One other issue is allowing the engine to cool off before a restart. Hot starts are brutal on the engines. Edited May 17 by wolfriverjoe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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