rushmc 18 #1 July 25, 2014 QuoteThe highest human rights court in Europe has told European LGBTs that they have no human right to same-sex marriage, in a case that also shows how complicated sexual and marital norms have become in this new transsexual world. The case arose after a man in Finland, who was married with a child, decided he wanted to live as a woman. After a sex-change operation, he attempted to change his governmental "male identity number" to a female one. He was turned down because, according to law, he needed his wife's consent to change their man-woman marriage to a "registered partnership", which she had withheld. http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/07/25/European-Human-Rights-Court-Says-No-Right-to-Same-Sex-Marriage"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #2 July 25, 2014 In what way?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #3 July 26, 2014 jakee In what way? Well, I haven't been to Europe in a while, but from some of those posting on this site, supposedly you people got your shit together...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamUK 3 #4 July 26, 2014 This was established in the UK some years ago I believe when a married man had a sex change and the circumstances were similar. As far as I am aware, more generally such EU agreements leave member states to make their own laws as long as they sit within the framework agreed. Thus it allows countries such as the UK, Sweden, the Netherlands etc. to have same-sex marriage laws whereas other member states have not but all countries still operate within the European Convention on Human Rights. The thing that does irk me a little is that these cases make the ECJ when they should be decided by the national courts. The ECJ should decided upon the more broader issues as to whether the member states laws comply with, in this case, the ECHR. The backlog at the ECJ is huge in part due to it hearing cases that should be decided by member states' judicial systems. Mild rand over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
