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Utter nonsense.
You're trying to say that God makes people suffer for natural selection, you then relate the natural selection process to religion. Not even close.
--You clearly don't know what Africa is like then and are basing your theories on your own uneducated views of Africa. South Africa has one of the largest HIV positive demographics and yet South Africa is an extremely Christian country with about 80% of the population being Christian.
??? If you say so .
--You clearly don't know what Africa is like then and are basing your theories on your own uneducated views of Africa. South Africa has one of the largest HIV positive demographics and yet South Africa is an extremely Christian country with about 80% of the population being Christian.
??? If you say so .
--Seeking God doesn't change the process of natural selection. Nor is there any evidence to support such a theory.
So your simplistic view is: "God does not exist because there is suffering in the world" Reality is what it is, As a species it is our privilege to make sense out of the chaos physically and spiritually. All one can do is explore where their heart leads. If you are angry and consumed with hate I don't think you will like where you end up.
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QuoteAll one can do is explore where their heart leads.
I prefer to use my mind and the evidence that, so far, has been presented.
To date, we know that the bible is wrong as to the age of the planet. We know that humankind is far older than what the bible claims. We know that dinosaurs out date humans (no mention of them in the bible.) We know that the planet has never flooded over. We know that there is no heaven above us, but a vast, seemingly endless, universe surrounding our planet. We know that the planet earth and all on it was not created in six days.
To date, all evidence is against the existence of any deity.
"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
But there IS a God. The Bible says so. And, since the Bible is the word of God, it has to be true.
How could you possibly argue with that? 
HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.
QuoteBut there IS a God. The Bible says so. And, since the Bible is the word of God, it has to be true.
How could you possibly argue with that?
The fact that you and I agree, on anything, is proof alone that there is no god. What god would allow that!!!!!!
"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
QuoteQuoteBut there IS a God. The Bible says so. And, since the Bible is the word of God, it has to be true.
How could you possibly argue with that?
The fact that you and I agree, on anything, is proof alone that there is no god. What god would allow that!!!!!!
That makes two things.
Hell, if we ever met we'd probably have more in common than either of us think.
HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.
winsor 192
QuoteBut there IS a God. The Bible says so. And, since the Bible is the word of God, it has to be true.
How could you possibly argue with that?
The fact that you and I agree, on anything, is proof alone that there is no god. What god would allow that!!!!!!
That makes two things.
Hell, if we ever met we'd probably have more in common than either of us think.
God said it, I believe it, that settles it.
At least that is what the bumper sticker said.
QuoteQuoteQuoteBut there IS a God. The Bible says so. And, since the Bible is the word of God, it has to be true.
How could you possibly argue with that?
The fact that you and I agree, on anything, is proof alone that there is no god. What god would allow that!!!!!!
That makes two things.
Hell, if we ever met we'd probably have more in common than either of us think.
Most of my friends have completely different views. The majority believe in God.
If we all believed the same, debate would be boring.
"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
maadmax 0
All one can do is explore where their heart leads.
I prefer to use my mind and the evidence that, so far, has been presented.
To date, we know that the bible is wrong as to the age of the planet. We know that humankind is far older than what the bible claims. We know that dinosaurs out date humans (no mention of them in the bible.) We know that the planet has never flooded over. We know that there is no heaven above us, but a vast, seemingly endless, universe surrounding our planet. We know that the planet earth and all on it was not created in six days.
To date, all evidence is against the existence of any deity.
I prefer to use my mind and the evidence that, so far, has been presented.
To date, we know that the bible is wrong as to the age of the planet. We know that humankind is far older than what the bible claims. We know that dinosaurs out date humans (no mention of them in the bible.) We know that the planet has never flooded over. We know that there is no heaven above us, but a vast, seemingly endless, universe surrounding our planet. We know that the planet earth and all on it was not created in six days.
To date, all evidence is against the existence of any deity.
Keep exploring and stay away from places that teach what you just said. That is some pretty scary stuff. God is a lot more than a collection of petty misinterpreted doctrines. Start at the begining, "God is Love"
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QuoteAll one can do is explore where their heart leads.
I prefer to use my mind and the evidence that, so far, has been presented.
To date, we know that the bible is wrong as to the age of the planet. We know that humankind is far older than what the bible claims. We know that dinosaurs out date humans (no mention of them in the bible.) We know that the planet has never flooded over. We know that there is no heaven above us, but a vast, seemingly endless, universe surrounding our planet. We know that the planet earth and all on it was not created in six days.
To date, all evidence is against the existence of any deity.
Keep exploring and stay away from places that teach what you just said. That is some pretty scary stuff. God is a lot more than a collection of petty misinterpreted doctrines. Start at the begining, "God is Love"
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I love reading books on physics and I am a big fan of Brian Greene. One of my favorite books is "The Elegant Universe." Timothy Ferris's "The Whole Bang" and Trinh Xuan Thuan's "Chaos and Harmony" are two other books that lay out our universe in understandable terms. You should read them. They may change your view, or at least give you food for thought.
"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
maadmax 0
I love reading books on physics and I am a big fan of Brian Greene. One of my favorite books is "The Elegant Universe." Timothy Ferris's "The Whole Bang" and Trinh Xuan Thuan's "Chaos and Harmony" are two other books that lay out our universe in understandable terms. You should read them. They may change your view, or at least give you food for thought.
Brain Green +1, I am sure I would enjoy your other suggestion if I can ever find the time.
Honestly, I have read the bible (KJV) from cover to cover, in 1995. I did so after being diagnosed with HIV when I returned from nearly a year in Mexico (messed around with a number of red-light ladies. Clearly, my own fault.)
I do accept that the over-all message in the NT of love, acceptance, and respect for each other is what each human should extend to each and every other. However, the message in the OT is not the same. If anything, the church would do well to omit it from their lessons. I find the story of creation to be implausible, if not completely unbelievable. I tend to lean towards the latter. As I also do concerning the the story of Jesus. That is not to say that Jesus did not exist, only that I do not believe that he was the son of a god. Yet, that should not detract from the message. Although, the same message can be found in older writings and from other/older civilizations.
As for how and when the universe came into existence, the theories put forth in the astronomical community are far more plausible.
I do accept that the over-all message in the NT of love, acceptance, and respect for each other is what each human should extend to each and every other. However, the message in the OT is not the same. If anything, the church would do well to omit it from their lessons. I find the story of creation to be implausible, if not completely unbelievable. I tend to lean towards the latter. As I also do concerning the the story of Jesus. That is not to say that Jesus did not exist, only that I do not believe that he was the son of a god. Yet, that should not detract from the message. Although, the same message can be found in older writings and from other/older civilizations.
As for how and when the universe came into existence, the theories put forth in the astronomical community are far more plausible.
"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
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Well, your god doesn't even seem to have the power to get the message through the net: "Dieses Video ist in deinem Land nicht verfügbar." (This video is not available in your country.) Conclusion: He's neither awesome nor does he reign (at least not the net)
Sorry, bored a little, don't take it too seriously.
The sky is not the limit. The ground is.
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God explains why:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAFEvyH2nS0
Huhuhuhu... almost spilled my keyboard with coffee when I LMAO
Sorry, will logout now and be watching Mr Deity instead
The sky is not the limit. The ground is.
The Society of Skydiving Ducks
The Society of Skydiving Ducks
Utter nonsense.
You're trying to say that God makes people suffer for natural selection, you then relate the natural selection process to religion.
You clearly don't know what Africa is like then and are basing your theories on your own uneducated views of Africa. South Africa has one of the largest HIV positive demographics and yet South Africa is an extremely Christian country with about 80% of the population being Christian.
Seeking God doesn't change the process of natural selection. Nor is there any evidence to support such a theory.
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