pirana 0 #26 December 17, 2010 Quote Most people seem to think anyone making noticably more than them is rich. I would probably rate it as a factor times the average income for your city. Agreed. It is highly subjective, very dependent on the local cost of living, and largely relative to what a person feels (so mostly a measure of emotion). If a person wants to slot people, then do it on data such as income or assets. Slotting people based on emotional labels such as rich, poor, comfortable, well off, happy, etc is silly. All you're really doing is tallying how they feel about themselves. As an aside, best advice I ever got on displaying your assets is to not drive a car more expensive than can be afforded by the average highway patrol officer." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,635 #27 December 19, 2010 2 standard deviations above the mean would be a reasonable definition.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobMoore 0 #28 December 19, 2010 Quote2 standard deviations above the mean would be a reasonable definition. That would be a reasonable definition for a mathematical question. The original posters' question falls more into the emotional opinion of what is rich."For you see, an airplane is an airplane. A landing area is a landing area. But a dropzone... a dropzone is the people." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #29 December 19, 2010 Quantitative Vs Qualitative, I like it! However, I think a mixed method approach might best address the question.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,635 #30 December 20, 2010 QuoteQuote2 standard deviations above the mean would be a reasonable definition. That would be a reasonable definition for a mathematical question. The original posters' question falls more into the emotional opinion of what is rich. Mathematics works for everyone. We all have different emotions. There is no answer if you rely on emotion.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobMoore 0 #31 December 20, 2010 QuoteMathematics works for everyone. We all have different emotions. There is no answer if you rely on emotion. We all have different emotions. We all have different opinions, and that's what the original poster asked for. Of course there is an answer, but you won't find it in a university classroom."For you see, an airplane is an airplane. A landing area is a landing area. But a dropzone... a dropzone is the people." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,635 #32 December 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteMathematics works for everyone. We all have different emotions. There is no answer if you rely on emotion. We all have different emotions. We all have different opinions, and that's what the original poster asked for. Of course there is an answer, but you won't find it in a university classroom. You are more likely to find it there than in an emotional response.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #33 December 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteMathematics works for everyone. We all have different emotions. There is no answer if you rely on emotion. We all have different emotions. We all have different opinions, and that's what the original poster asked for. Of course there is an answer, but you won't find it in a university classroom. the prof has a good answer. best one so far. distributions are used to clearly define what is defined as "out of the ordinary" in a measurable repeatable way anything else is just moronic feelings on a subject that should be direct - as soon as 'feelings' start to play, that's when the government starts abusing the money they take or we can digress on fluffy and pointless discussion that should be in bonfire on how "wealth" is defined by how many rigs you own and the quality of the artistic fluffiness of the clouds you'd fall by on warm late spring day with your best girl and a cold beer and a warm feeling toward your fellow man when trumpets blare and you surf on a wet landing area to the smiles of spectators on the way to a family reunion with your blah, blah, blah I'm mostly responding to a post that disregards one man's answer and then goes on to say - "hey, we need to respect everyone's viewpoint here" the disconnect is really cute. so I mock and tease The "original poster originally asked" for a quantified set of dollars in the form of a table to vote on.....the prof has that nailed as he can look up the 2 sigma line, and then check off the box. His "opinion" is just as good as any other and has an extra benefit of adding structure to the debate rather than the flush of subjective self congratulation with no option for a common ground. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #34 December 20, 2010 Quote the prof has a good answer. best one so far. distributions are used to clearly define what is defined as "out of the ordinary" in a but two standard deviations above the mean is going to translate to basic middle class, not rich. Use of deciles or quintiles is likely to be more usable in this context. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #35 December 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteMathematics works for everyone. We all have different emotions. There is no answer if you rely on emotion. We all have different emotions. We all have different opinions, and that's what the original poster asked for. Of course there is an answer, but you won't find it in a university classroom. You are more likely to find it there than in an emotional response. not in most of them - try that approach in a political theory class and see how much of that is actually fact.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
