likearock 1 #26 July 5, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote > Elena Kagan Demanded Sec Change Operation Benefit for Harvard Students Good. She talked Blue Cross into covering a procedure covered that benefited her students. Kudos to her. would you also agree had she advocated breast augmentation? nose jobs? Considering the salutary benefit of those procedures to both the female and male populations? You betcha! I decree that from this day forth, all SC denizens shall add a "" whenever they type "You betcha!". Please don't. To me "You betcha" will always remain the sole property of Frances McDormand in Fargo and not of that other personality so fond of the wink. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #27 July 5, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote > Elena Kagan Demanded Sec Change Operation Benefit for Harvard Students Good. She talked Blue Cross into covering a procedure covered that benefited her students. Kudos to her. would you also agree had she advocated breast augmentation? nose jobs? Considering the salutary benefit of those procedures to both the female and male populations? You betcha! I decree that from this day forth, all SC denizens shall add a "" whenever they type "You betcha!". Please don't. To me "You betcha" will always remain the sole property of Frances McDormand in Fargo and not of that other personality so fond of the wink. Ya....Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #28 July 5, 2010 Quote >how does cutting off a guy's pecker benefit him? It's not "cutting off a guy's pecker." Men and women have all the same parts; they're just different sizes. Sexual reassignment surgery moves the various parts around to reconstruct the genitalia. To answer the second part of the question, it helps them the same way that plastic surgery to correct ambiguous genitalia resulting from congenital adrenal hyperplasia helps. >and why should everyone have to pay for this? They don't. You can choose any insurance company you like, including ones that do not cover such procedures. >This should be considered elective surgery. Uh, OK. And many plans cover elective surgery (like cataract surgery or angioplasty.) Again, if you don't like that, get a plan that doesn't cover any of that. Kagan wasn;t say "Insurnce" should pay for it, she was saying "Tax payers" should pay for it! How do you get to talking about Insurance from there?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,426 #29 July 5, 2010 >Kagan wasn;t say "Insurnce" should pay for it, she was saying >"Tax payers" should pay for it! Nope. While at Harvard, she lobbied Blue Cross/Blue Shield, a group of private insurers, to cover SRS. She did not "force tax payers to pay for it." Where did you get that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #30 July 6, 2010 Quote >Kagan wasn;t say "Insurnce" should pay for it, she was saying >"Tax payers" should pay for it! Nope. While at Harvard, she lobbied Blue Cross/Blue Shield, a group of private insurers, to cover SRS. She did not "force tax payers to pay for it." Where did you get that? Same place he gets ... sigh.... all the rest of it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #31 July 7, 2010 Having watched someone go through the agony that is being transgender, I don't have a problem with this. It's an approved medical treatment for a well documented disorder and what's probably best called a birth defect (the gender of the brain does not match the gender of the body). There are numerous studies that back up the finding that the brains of transgendered individuals more closely resemble the brains of those who are the opposite physical sex (and yes, there are differences between male and female brains). I did a huge report on this in law school and learned a ton. To probably oversimplify, it's not a "guy wanting to be a woman" or vice versa, and there's nothing sexual about it (transgender is NOT transsexual. Transsexuals dress in the clothing of the opposite sex, but do not want to BE the opposite sex). It's where people from a very young age realize that something went wrong in the womb and the body didn't develop the same physical gender as the brain. There are things that make us male or female, and those things are in the brain as well as in the rest of the body. We cannot change the brain, but we can alter the body to match the brain. Most of us are very comfortable in our bodies and have a hard time understanding how someone could not be, which is why there is a lot of misunderstanding and prejudice out there. People don't get that it's a gender identity issue, not a "sex" issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #32 July 7, 2010 (Insert lesbian trapped in a man's body joke here)Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
