rehmwa 2
Butters 0
QuoteQuote]For example it is probably easy to fix something if you have tools. Try doing the same thing without any.
Can I have (at least) a roll of duct tape and heavy stick?
Only if your obese self promises not to eat the roll of duct tape and heavy stick this time ...
"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch
steve1 5
QuoteQuote]For example it is probably easy to fix something if you have tools. Try doing the same thing without any.
Can I have (at least) a roll of duct tape and heavy stick?
Give me your address and I'll mail them to you....I like to help...
rehmwa 2
QuoteQuoteQuote]For example it is probably easy to fix something if you have tools. Try doing the same thing without any.
Can I have (at least) a roll of duct tape and heavy stick?
Give me your address and I'll mail them to you....I like to help...
send to the DZ
1 (one) roll of duct tape
1 (one) heavy stick of Butter
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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants
steve1 5
Can I have (at least) a roll of duct tape and heavy stick?
Give me your address and I'll mail them to you....I like to help...
send to the DZ
1 (one) roll of duct tape
1 (one) heavy stick of Butter
This is starting to scare me a little, but I'm trying to look beyond that? Could you give any hints on what you need these tools for? Remember now, I'm an old fart, whose brain might not be firing on all cylinders....
rehmwa 2
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Can I have (at least) a roll of duct tape and heavy stick?
Give me your address and I'll mail them to you....I like to help...
send to the DZ
1 (one) roll of duct tape
1 (one) heavy stick of Butter
This is starting to scare me a little, but I'm trying to look beyond that? Could you give any hints on what you need these tools for? Remember now, I'm an old fart, whose brain might not be firing on all cylinders....
to fix anything, really - needs duct tape and a hammer, but you can't have tools, so hammer changed to stick
but then Butters called me obese, so I thought a stick of fat would be good so I moved to the next step
now I see that 'butter', looks a lot like Butters, so I should change that to a stick of cookie dough to keep the oddballs from playing gotcha and going down the mean humor path they like to do
pretty much we've backed the whole thing into a corner now and there's no more ways to elevate any humor out of it
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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants
Butters 0
Quotepretty much we've backed the whole thing into a corner now and there's no more ways to elevate any humor out of it
I'm sure your obese self can eat your way out of any corner ...
"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch
rehmwa 2
QuoteQuotepretty much we've backed the whole thing into a corner now and there's no more ways to elevate any humor out of it
I'm sure your obese self can eat your way out of any corner ...
as long as I don't have to climb up out of the corner
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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants
Butters 0
QuoteQuoteQuotepretty much we've backed the whole thing into a corner now and there's no more ways to elevate any humor out of it
I'm sure your obese self can eat your way out of any corner ...
as long as I don't have to climb up out of the corner
You'll do fine climbing up out of the corner until the last move ...
"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch
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I don't know of a single dude who would prefer the former to the latter. Seriously, not one.
I don't know any married dude who would prefer the former to the latter as well :D
* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *
rehmwa 2
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotepretty much we've backed the whole thing into a corner now and there's no more ways to elevate any humor out of it
I'm sure your obese self can eat your way out of any corner ...
as long as I don't have to climb up out of the corner
You'll do fine climbing up out of the corner until the last move ...
now that is mean - 4 tries and I'm quitting
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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants
Butters 0
QuoteYou'll do fine climbing up out of the corner until the last move ...
now that is mean - 4 tries and I'm quitting
I would poke you with a heavy stick to get you past the last moves but your obese self would probably think I'm feeding you ... just admit you're a victim and give up.
"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch
rehmwa 2
QuoteQuoteYou'll do fine climbing up out of the corner until the last move ...
now that is mean - 4 tries and I'm quitting
I would poke you with a heavy stick to get you past the last moves but your obese self would probably think I'm feeding you ... just admit you're a victim and give up.
"just admit you're a victim and give up."
Please reference the above in RED
I'm a proactive victim/quitter
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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants
Considering your usage of alcohol, it would seem you and the obese have something in common.
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So you dig up some posts of mine from over 3 years ago and feel you've completely trumped my argument?? Is that the best you people can do? I've never claimed to be anywhere near perfect, and up until a few years ago I drank fairly regularly. After my second trip to Iraq my drinking got to the point where it almost ended my career, I had some PTSD issues and took the easy way out instead of working through it. I worked past what was going trough m head when I went back to Iraq for a third time and got to face the issues head on. Two years ago I started cutting back on my drinking and nowadays you'll rarely if ever find me being anything other than the DD. Alcohol was the final piece of the puzzle for me in cleaning up my lifestyle. Weight lifting came first, I started when I was 14, then cardio, then diet, and most recently alcohol. I drink on rare special occasions now and keep it in moderation.
The difference is I was man enough to admit I was doing stupid shit, how many people in here are making choices that have negative effects on their health and won't admit it or say its ok because they're happy? How's this for everyone who thinks it doesn't matter, what's going to happen to your family when you eat your way to an early grave? And what kind of example does that gluttonous lifestyle set for the next generation? Everyone trying to BS themselves into thinking they aren't affecting anyone else are full of it.
I think everyone needs to put there hurt little feelings aside and go back and read my original post. There wasn't a single malicious word in there, and I never said an unkind thing about the obese, I also made it very clear that I am well aware of the fact that not all people have control over their situation, yet apparently people didn't read my post and tried to use examples of their friends with injuries or illnesses to turn it around on me.I just showed a little tough love. But since I didn't sugar coat what I said to protect people's feelings everyone took it as an attack. Sorry if I don't believe in beating around the bush when I'm trying to make a point, but if you're guilty of something you should be a big enough person that you can step up and admit it. And if your feelings are just too sensitive to deal with the truth than tough shit, this oversensitive PC crap is dragging everyone down and I'm sick of it.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.
--Dwight D. Eisenhower
Muenkel 0
I admire and thank you for your service to our country. I also admire you facing your weaknesses head on and overcoming them. I sincerely applaud you.
I am a member of Weight Watchers. I gained 80lbs after suffering a massive head injury. I also am dealing with PTSD. I finally got the courage up to face head on the weight issue. As I posted earlier, I have now lost the 80lbs and am a perfect weight for my body.
I attended WW meetings for over a year. I witnessed personally obese people trying their damdest to lose the weight. It's easier for some folks. I've seen some in tears fighting like hell to overcome the discouragement. I've heard testimony from many who have to put up with cruel insults about their weight. Losing weight is not an easy thing for some people. Maybe it's in their genetics, I don't know. They deserve our respect and applause, not more negativity. They know better than you and I how unhealthy obesity is. They do not need us telling them.
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Chris
I am a member of Weight Watchers. I gained 80lbs after suffering a massive head injury. I also am dealing with PTSD. I finally got the courage up to face head on the weight issue. As I posted earlier, I have now lost the 80lbs and am a perfect weight for my body.
I attended WW meetings for over a year. I witnessed personally obese people trying their damdest to lose the weight. It's easier for some folks. I've seen some in tears fighting like hell to overcome the discouragement. I've heard testimony from many who have to put up with cruel insults about their weight. Losing weight is not an easy thing for some people. Maybe it's in their genetics, I don't know. They deserve our respect and applause, not more negativity. They know better than you and I how unhealthy obesity is. They do not need us telling them.
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Chris
Royd 0
Since you asked, if I saw you on the street, with that paunch, I'd say you would qualify as overweight.QuoteAccording to my BMI I'm obese. I'm 6'1" and weigh 265lbs. Am I over weight? Yup, actually I'm kind of fat. Am I obese? I don't think so. I also bench 50lbs over my weight for reps. Do I care that since I'm "obese" that you think personally have a problem with me? Nope.
I am greatly bothered by EMS workers or firefighters who look like they are five minutes worth of strenuous work, away from a major heart attack.
Royd 0
Yeah, and if you were actually doing a day's work;i.e. work; you wouldn't be fat.Quote(and for those who think I may be harsh on those who grew up and are still living on welfare, God himself said, through his apostle, "that if any would not work, neither should he eat.")
Royd 0
Sounds like he'll be losing lots of weight, shortly.Quotehave a friend who is morbidly obese and he is trying, but with the COPD, Emphysema, Chronic Heart Failure, and Stroke he is not able to do much about it except mild exercise/eat less.
Royd 0
I'm 56, and when is was growing up, the only children who were even chubby, were the only child of a family, and were usually pampered, with whatever they wanted. The majority of this problem is due to a society that wants everything done, here and now....If you say you're on a diet, and you are still eating stuff out of a box or can, with words on the side of it, that only a food scientist can pronounce, there's your biggest problem.QuoteIt's also interesting the predjudice that many people have toward fat people. Many people think fat people must certainly be lazy and no good.....right? After all they aren't skinny like me, so I must be better than they are.....I think some of this thinking can be seen in many of these posts....
Royd 0
What if they packed you in a box, and shipped you Fedex?QuoteNot everyone who is too big for the coach seats is morbidly obese or even overweight. There are people who weigh 200 pounds who are not overweight. It doesn't seem fair to me that they should pay almost twice as much as me to fly just because they were born a different size.
I struggle to see the problem here. If you're a fat cunt just eat less and exercise more.
Where's the problem?
'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'
Where's the problem?
'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'
There are a lot of people bashing GQ_jumper for his stance on obesity but I wholeheartedly agree with him that it should be a concern for EVERYone. If you read his words more carefully there is no HATRED of obese people - but rather an expression of concern and a call for the rest of society to be more concerned, whether it be just for their own wallets (paying for the obesity problem) or for the true health&wellness of the obese people.
I DO NOT hate obese people but I share the same concern as GQ_jumper does of trying to be more aware of where our society as a whole is going dealing with obesity. I've been a personal trainer for years and have visited all parts of the globe and I definitely see a warped social attitude in America towards the obesity epidemic. There is an odd combo of denial and entitlement when it comes to overeating and consuming calorically-dense but nutritionally-deficient food (which is the MAIN cause of the obesity epidemic along with the lack of exercise of course). And no, you can't deny the small percentage of folks that are obese due to physical disabilities or the RARE genetic conditions that lead to being overweight. If it was all about genetics I'd have to ask then did these freak genetics develop just these last 2 decades? America's obesity problem was exploded since the 80's. I've dealt with clients that are everywhere from 5 lbs to 150 lbs overweight and yes, dealing with people that are morbidly or clinically obese takes a much different approach to helping people develop a more normal BMI and healthier lifestyle but as a whole our society DOES end up paying for their weight problem. These are stats from National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Disease:
***On average, obese workers tend to lose a week of work a year due to ailments related to their weight. A firm of 1,000 employees loses $285,000 a year due to obese—not overweight—employees, about 30 percent of which is attributable to increased absenteeism.![[:/]](/uploads/emoticons/dry.png "[:/]"){kind=small}
***Overweight males incur medical costs that are $170 more annually than their leaner co-workers, while overweight females incur costs $495 higher than their counterparts. Hospitals have to pay more to treat the obese—oversized wheelchairs can cost about $2,500, eight times the cost of an ordinary wheelchair, and operating tables that are strong enough to support the severely obese can top $30,000.
Personally I really do believe that people that are morbidly obese need to seek a therapist's help ALONG with seeing a nutritionist and lifestyle coach/personal trainer. The usual culprit of obesity is a combo of food addiction that is tied to something deeper, but again, this is just an indicator of America's problem in particular with obesity compared to other nations. I think obesity is a manifestation of a cultural deprivation here in our country and it's a slow form of suicide as a lifestyle.
And instead of just telling them to get help, I think allllll of us need to help create supportive environments through public policy and media that promote healthier lifestyles. Don't be an enabler and telling those that are obese that it's okay. It's not -- not for their health and not for our society. We need to encourage EVERYONE around us to get off their asses and slow their roll on overeating sugary, fatty foods. And people should probably start looking at people who let their kids get obese as a form of abuse because it's not the KID that's going grocery shopping and making dinner - it's the friggin parents. According to one Harvard study – published by the Annals of Internal Medicine:
***Doctors evaluated the health habits and medical records of more than 100,000 women who had provided data through the Nurses’ Health Study (an ongoing federally financed study on women’s health issues) since 1989. Researchers found that those women who were overweight or obese at age 18, had a far greater risk of dying from cancer or heart disease before reaching middle age.
If Americans could stop being in denial and start practicing moderation and portion control it would help tremendously. Hopefully the medical community will get off their asses too and stop promoting meds and surgery and start being more frank with their patients and telling them to get psychotherapy.
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***On average, obese workers tend to lose a week of work a year due to ailments related to their weight. A firm of 1,000 employees loses $285,000 a year due to obese—not overweight—employees, about 30 percent of which is attributable to increased absenteeism.
simple math. $285/employee/year. Measured against the 6 figure cost of those employees, it's hardly a shocking value. Esp if they're working them 2000hrs/year.
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***Overweight males incur medical costs that are $170 more annually than their leaner co-workers, while overweight females incur costs $495 higher than their counterparts.Quote
Again, against what costs? I/my employer pay $5000/yr in premiums.
Can I have (at least) a roll of duct tape and heavy stick?
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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants
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